Iranian Nuclear Chief Mohammad Sa'idi Explains Why Iran Produces Heavy Water: Drinking It Helps Fight Cancer and AIDS

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Following are excerpts from an interview with Mohammad Sa'idi, International Affairs Deputy in the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization, which aired on the Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 27, 2006.

Interviewer: You just said that in some cases, heavy water can even be used for drinking.

Mohammad Sa'idi: Yes.

Interviewer: Could you elaborate on this?

Mohammad Sa'idi: One of the products of heavy water is depleted deuterium. As you know, in an environment with depleted deuterium, the reception of cancer cells and of the AIDS viruses is disrupted. Since this reception is disrupted, the cells are gradually expelled from the body. Obviously, one glass of depleted deuterium will not expel or cure the cancer or eliminate the AIDS. We are talking about a certain period of time. In many countries that deal with these diseases, patients use this kind of water instead of regular water, and consume it daily in order to heal their diseases.

In other words, the issue of heavy water has to do with matters of life and death, in many cases. One of the reasons that led us to produce heavy water was to use it for agricultural... medical purposes, and especially for industrial purposes in our country.

[...]

There is no connection whatsoever between heavy water and plutonium. As I have said, the nuclear industry can be used for diverse purposes.

Interviewer: Right.

Mohammad Sa'idi: Some countries possess this kind of weapon, and use this technology to make weapons. There are also countries which are NPT members, and which accepted the NPT [regulations], and they have therefore committed themselves to use this technology for peaceful purposes only. When you commit yourself to using nuclear technology for peaceful purposes only, this includes all the nuclear issues. Let's say tomorrow you build a heavy-water research reactor, OK? This research reactor uses fuel that has the plutonium element as well. We have declared to the world that Iran's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, and the IAEA can supervise it fully. Now, when we are in the process of building this reactor - the concrete has just been poured and the walls are being installed - the IAEA is present, so of course it will be present when the reactor becomes operational. When it becomes operational the inspectors will definitely be there. Just like they supervise our facilities at Natanz, they will supervise these facilities, so that there will be no deviation in a certain direction.

[...]

You may ask why we pursued a heavy-water research reactor, rather than a light-water reactor. This is a [legitimate] question, which deserves an answer. Since this involves simpler technology… The heavy-water research reactors have slightly simpler technology. In what way are they simpler? Light-water research reactors require fuel that is 20% enriched. Do you follow, Mr. Emami?

Interviewer: Yes.

Mohammad Sa'idi: It requires 20% enriched fuel. Heavy-water research reactors do not require enriched fuel. What you need is not 3.5% [enriched uranium], but UO2, which is produced in the [uCF] facilities at Esfahan. These products are produced at Esfahan, and heavy water is currently produced at Khondab in Arak, so this technology is readily available to us. All we need to do is build the reactor. The fuel is available, and so is the moderator and the cooler, so the reactor can become productive very quickly. Let's say you build a light-water research reactor, OK? As soon as you want to move from 5% to 20% - in other words, to produce enriched fuel - the same countries that are shouting that there is plutonium in heavy-water reactors will shout and say that Iran has moved from 5% to 20% enrichment.

[...]

Interviewer: With regard to Natanz, the 164 centrifuges continue to operate. When will we reach the 3,000 we announced?

Mohammad Sa'idi: We are now carrying out work at the R&D stage. A plan has been drawn up, and we are following it.

Interviewer: When do you think we will reach 3,000 [centrifuges]?

Mohammad Sa'idi: According to the plan.

Interviewer: Thank you. I had other questions... We have done all these activities, so why aren't we building a [nuclear] power plant?

Mohammad Sa'idi: Of course we are. One of the important issues that may arise in the future for our dear people is that in order to complete this technological process in the Islamic Republic of Iran, we have begun designing a power reactor for the production of electricity. When I say "power," I mean production of electricity. This is a power reactor with a capacity of 360 mega-watt. We are working towards an Iranian-made reactor. Adjacent to the heavy-water reactor that we are building, and which is also Iranian-made, we are planning a light-water power reactor with a capacity of 360 mega-watt, which will serve as a basis for construction of [other] power reactors in the future.

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1251

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Following are excerpts from an interview with Mohammad Sa'idi, International Affairs Deputy in the Iranian Atomic Energy Organization, which aired on the Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 27, 2006.

Interviewer: You just said that in some cases, heavy water can even be used for drinking.

Mohammad Sa'idi: Yes.

Interviewer: Could you elaborate on this?

Mohammad Sa'idi: One of the products of heavy water is depleted deuterium. As you know, in an environment with depleted deuterium, the reception of cancer cells and of the AIDS viruses is disrupted. Since this reception is disrupted, the cells are gradually expelled from the body. Obviously, one glass of depleted deuterium will not expel or cure the cancer or eliminate the AIDS. We are talking about a certain period of time. In many countries that deal with these diseases, patients use this kind of water instead of regular water, and consume it daily in order to heal their diseases.

In other words, the issue of heavy water has to do with matters of life and death, in many cases. One of the reasons that led us to produce heavy water was to use it for agricultural... medical purposes, and especially for industrial purposes in our country.

[...]

There is no connection whatsoever between heavy water and plutonium. As I have said, the nuclear industry can be used for diverse purposes.

Interviewer: Right.

Mohammad Sa'idi: Some countries possess this kind of weapon, and use this technology to make weapons. There are also countries which are NPT members, and which accepted the NPT [regulations], and they have therefore committed themselves to use this technology for peaceful purposes only. When you commit yourself to using nuclear technology for peaceful purposes only, this includes all the nuclear issues. Let's say tomorrow you build a heavy-water research reactor, OK? This research reactor uses fuel that has the plutonium element as well. We have declared to the world that Iran's nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, and the IAEA can supervise it fully. Now, when we are in the process of building this reactor - the concrete has just been poured and the walls are being installed - the IAEA is present, so of course it will be present when the reactor becomes operational. When it becomes operational the inspectors will definitely be there. Just like they supervise our facilities at Natanz, they will supervise these facilities, so that there will be no deviation in a certain direction.

[...]

You may ask why we pursued a heavy-water research reactor, rather than a light-water reactor. This is a [legitimate] question, which deserves an answer. Since this involves simpler technology… The heavy-water research reactors have slightly simpler technology. In what way are they simpler? Light-water research reactors require fuel that is 20% enriched. Do you follow, Mr. Emami?

Interviewer: Yes.

Mohammad Sa'idi: It requires 20% enriched fuel. Heavy-water research reactors do not require enriched fuel. What you need is not 3.5% [enriched uranium], but UO2, which is produced in the [uCF] facilities at Esfahan. These products are produced at Esfahan, and heavy water is currently produced at Khondab in Arak, so this technology is readily available to us. All we need to do is build the reactor. The fuel is available, and so is the moderator and the cooler, so the reactor can become productive very quickly. Let's say you build a light-water research reactor, OK? As soon as you want to move from 5% to 20% - in other words, to produce enriched fuel - the same countries that are shouting that there is plutonium in heavy-water reactors will shout and say that Iran has moved from 5% to 20% enrichment.

[...]

Interviewer: With regard to Natanz, the 164 centrifuges continue to operate. When will we reach the 3,000 we announced?

Mohammad Sa'idi: We are now carrying out work at the R&D stage. A plan has been drawn up, and we are following it.

Interviewer: When do you think we will reach 3,000 [centrifuges]?

Mohammad Sa'idi: According to the plan.

Interviewer: Thank you. I had other questions... We have done all these activities, so why aren't we building a [nuclear] power plant?

Mohammad Sa'idi: Of course we are. One of the important issues that may arise in the future for our dear people is that in order to complete this technological process in the Islamic Republic of Iran, we have begun designing a power reactor for the production of electricity. When I say "power," I mean production of electricity. This is a power reactor with a capacity of 360 mega-watt. We are working towards an Iranian-made reactor. Adjacent to the heavy-water reactor that we are building, and which is also Iranian-made, we are planning a light-water power reactor with a capacity of 360 mega-watt, which will serve as a basis for construction of [other] power reactors in the future.

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1251

Great news for the people drinking heavy water:

The blast from hydrogen bomb can treat some cases of vitiligo

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Note: he never answered whether grains could be grown in heavy water (NO) so as to transfer the benefits more nicely.

Anyway, I'll stick to my favourite energy drink (which I consider as a cure-all), thank you.

:lol:

Edited September 1, 2006 by CherryXS

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Because it would take a very great deal of heavy water to replace 25% to 50% of a human being's body water (70% of body weight) with heavy water, accidental or intentional poisoning with heavy water is unlikely to the point of practical disregard. For a poisoning, large amounts of heavy water would need to be ingested without significant normal water intake for many days to produce any noticeable toxic effects (although in a few tests, volunteers drinking large amounts of heavy water have reported dizziness, a possible effect of density changes in the fluid in the inner ear). For example, a 70 kg human containing 50 kg of water and drinking 3 liters of pure heavy water per day, would need to do this for almost 5 days to reach 25% deuteration, and for about 11 days to approach 50% deuteration. Thus, it would take a week of drinking nothing but pure heavy water for a human to begin to feel ill, and 10 days to 2 weeks (depending on water intake) for severe poisoning and death.

Oral doses of heavy water in the multi-gram range, along with heavy oxygen O-18, are routinely used in human metabolic experiments. See doubly-labeled water testing. Since 1 in every 6400 hydrogen atoms is deuterium, a 50 kg human containing 32 kg of body water would normally contain enough deuterium (about 1 gram) to make 5 grams of pure heavy water, so roughly this dose is required to double the amount of deuterium in the body.

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Wow. That reminds me of one interesting thing. thing.

Rats were fed with heavy water instead of normal one.

They Died.

From thirst. D2O does not participate in BioChemical processes like H2O. This little difference is enough.

Yep

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Wow. That reminds me of one interesting thing. thing.

Rats were fed with heavy water instead of normal one.

They Died.

From thirst. D2O does not participate in BioChemical processes like H2O. This little difference is enough.

Yep

Where was this, and is this data? I myself decided to see what I could find one this and here is one of the results of my search.

AbstractID: 6545 Title: Radioprotective and Immunostimulating Effects of

Deuterium-Depleted Water

RADIOPROTECTIVE AND IMMUNOSTIMULATING EFFECTS OF

DEUTERIUM-DEPLETED WATER

University of Medicine and

Pharmacy Iasi,Romania, (2) Laboratory of Experimental and Applied Physiology of

the

Romanian Academy, Iasi, Romania

Mice fed during 15 days with Deuterium-Depleted Water (30 ppm deuterium) had a

statistically significant increased survival compared with control groups fed with

normal distilled water (150 ppm deuterium) after 8.5 Gy irradiation (61% survival in

test group towards 25% in control group). Hematological picture showed maintaining

of the normal WBC, RBC and platelet count in test groups. Immunological

parameters (serum opsonic and bactericidal capacity, bactericidal capacity of the

peritoneal macrophages) showed a marked increase in test groups compared to a

severe decrease in the control groups. Auxiliary tests using chemical radiomimetics

(hydrochloric embihine) and immunosupressors (cyclophosphamide) showed a strong

protective effect of deuterium-depleted water against the decrease of the leukocyte

counts and other immunologic parameters. In conditions of experimental

inflammation with subcutaneous-implanted pellets, deuterium-depleted water feeding

statistically significant increased inflammatory response, obviated by increased

percentages of PMN and lymphocytes in the peripheral blood and increased

phagocytic capacity of the peripheral blood PMN. Experimental infections with K.

pneumoniae 506 and S. pneumoniae 558 in mice irradiated or treated with

cyclophosphamide showed increased non-specific immunity parameters. All results

show a marked intensification of the immune defenses and increased proliferation of

the peripheral blood cells, probably accounting for the radioprotective effects.

This study indicates it had a postive effect on the mice.

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that was pure D2O, Not ppms like in your study. Just try to read.

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that was pure D2O, Not ppms like in your study. Just try to read.

My bad!

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BTW It didnt have a positive effect (again you have to read at least 2 first sentences - deuterium depleted water gave higher survival rates). Heh.

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BTW It didnt have a positive effect (again you have to read at least 2 first sentences - deuterium depleted water gave higher survival rates). Heh.

Good grief I'm normally better than this in knowing and verifying my facts prior to posting....*hangs head in shame*

I'm Just...not at my best today....and now...

This is gonna scar me for life!

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BTW It didnt have a positive effect (again you have to read at least 2 first sentences - deuterium depleted water gave higher survival rates). Heh.

Good grief I'm normally better than this in knowing and verifying my facts prior to posting....*hangs head in shame*

I'm Just...not at my best today....and now...

This is gonna scar me for life!

You are forgiven. Let this be a lesson.

Just promise not to harrass minorities.

You know.

[PsychoKat 0]

BTW It didnt have a positive effect (again you have to read at least 2 first sentences - deuterium depleted water gave higher survival rates). Heh.

Good grief I'm normally better than this in knowing and verifying my facts prior to posting....*hangs head in shame*

I'm Just...not at my best today....and now...

This is gonna scar me for life!

You are forgiven. Let this be a lesson.

Just promise not to harrass minorities.

You know.

Oh alllll right...