What does "family friendly" mean in the context of VJ?

[Darnell 8,479]

Cap'n - ya - there was some massive discussion earlier last year, even with the concept of '3 strikes and yer done forever' - but

I'm guessing those with the loudest squeak-y voices are being heard, and guess what? It's those same 3 to 4 hu-mans that you refer to/about.

[B_J 2,752]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other about getting rid of the regional sub-forums, as I don't see the forums themselves as the underlying issue. Bad behavior is the underlying issue. In the cases I have seen, it is literally 3-4 members who cause 98% of the problems. You get rid of those behaviors, and suddenly the problems begin to take care of themselves.

And moderation team, please don't take this as criticism because I know you all work hard and on a volunteer basis. But the pattern I see is this: handful of members create a situation (attacking other members, racist remarks, whatever). They are warned, posts are removed, maybe even some suspensions are handed out in the worst case. And maybe a week goes by where it's not so bad, but eventually the cycle repeats itself. It is as if the collective memory of the site gets reset about once a week.

Over the last few months there is at least one member I can think of who has been suspended 3 times, and possibly even more, I'm not sure. At some point, does a member ever become disruptive enough to just be asked to leave? Because right now, there seems to be no incentive for disruptive members to stop bad behavior. If you never have to face actually being asked to leave, then you have no incentive to stop your bad behavior. IMHO anyway.

As I see it, this is not an organizational problem, and has nothing to do with whether we have regional forums or not. It has to do with members being accountable for their behavior. Fix that and the problem fixes itself.

What he said.

[Captain Hammer 113]

Cap'n - ya - there was some massive discussion earlier last year, even with the concept of '3 strikes and yer done forever' - but

I'm guessing those with the loudest squeak-y voices are being heard, and guess what? It's those same 3 to 4 hu-mans that you refer to/about.

I'm not sure I follow. If the loud voices are the same voices making all the trouble, then why would they be listened to?

And playing armchair moderator, I don't think it's necessary or even desirable to have a formal mechanism like 3-strikes and you're out. Because then you're just giving trouble-makers a line that they'll push as far as they can without actually crossing it. In my opinion you give fair warnings, you try to work out any issues a member might have, but you make them understand that their behavior is not conducive to a site based on tolerance and the free exchange of ideas. And they either get on board or not, but once you've given them some fair opportunities to change their behavior, they should be invited to leave. I'm sure that there are some nuances that I'm glossing over, but essentially I'm saying that people need to be accountable for their actions. Otherwise you get the situation we see in some of the regional forums.

[Amby 490]

Why do you write "yer"? When I googled "yer" it gave me the currency exchange rate between a YER (Yemini Rial) and a USD. Do you mean 'your'?

yer is hick speak for your. I may even say yer instead of your and I don't even have an accent.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Bring back the (-1) please!

[Darnell 8,479]

Bring back the (-1) please!

Perhaps it'll happen? Then VJ would become more 'family friendly' - yes? no ?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Perhaps it'll happen? Then VJ would become more 'family friendly' - yes? no ?

Yes, unless you want to assume the lack of a green score means everybody either disagrees with your post, or doesn't care what you have to say.

Edited April 11, 2011 by Some Old Guy

[^_^ 5,021]

and thanks to a recent spurt in activity it jumped up to 26%!

see what i mean about variation?

12%

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Perhaps it'll happen? Then VJ would become more 'family friendly' - yes? no ?

Why does VJ need to be more "family friendly"? Aren't we all of majority age on here?

[Captain Hammer 113]

Why does VJ need to be more "family friendly"? Aren't we all of majority age on here?

Mentally or physically?

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Mentally or physically?

Well, DUH.

[Captain Hammer 113]

Well, DUH.

Well mentally I still need one of those leashes you see moms tether their kids to in the supermarket.

[Darnell 8,479]

Why does VJ need to be more "family friendly"? Aren't we all of majority age on here?

Unknown - it's yer topic, I'm still clueless.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Unknown - it's yer topic, I'm still clueless.

If you have nothing to add to this thread, move on.

[Pooky 3,825]

Why does VJ need to be more "family friendly"? Aren't we all of majority age on here?

Speak for yourself

I, on the other hand, wear small shoes sometimes .