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[Inky 1,111]

All green cards have an expiration date on them. Even the so-called permanent 10 year cards. Just because a card has an expiry date does not mean the person is no longer legally authorized to work. This is explained to employers in the I-9 handbook, but many don't bother to read it.

If you would like confirmation of this, you can google for the Handbook and read through it.

edited to add that this is ONE reason we bring up showing employers a drivers license and unrestricted SS card INSTEAD of a green card.

Hm yea this place required the green card or work visa as proof. Of being Legit.. tho I think i'm the first person who is NOT American born to be working there.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Hm yea this place required the green card or work visa as proof. Of being Legit.. tho I think i'm the first person who is NOT American born to be working there.

And who would blame them?

Especially at times where SS cards can be faked easily and driver licenses mean squat in regard to work authorization (I and ten thousands of other people got it with a tourist visa), it's understandable that some employers want to make sure that the person applying for the job is authorized to work. So while the I-9 instructions allow to prove this with a driver license and an unrestricted SS card, it's not really proof. Add to this that the employer just has to keep the I-9 on file for a few years, but doesn't have to forward it to anybody, an illegal alien can work there until the cows go home. Hence, employers increasingly ask to have a look at the applicants Green Card or work visa.

Although this may be more than what is required to show, smart people looking for work don't mind showing their Green Card. Why would they? It sure beats not showing it and continue looking for a job. The only ones who are not willing to show their Green Card are either trying to work illegally or are trouble makers. Employers don't like either neither one.

[Inky 1,111]

And who would blame them?

Especially at times where SS cards can be faked easily and driver licenses mean squat in regard to work authorization (I and ten thousands of other people got it with a tourist visa), it's understandable that some employers want to make sure that the person applying for the job is authorized to work. So while the I-9 instructions allow to prove this with a driver license and an unrestricted SS card, it's not really proof. Add to this that the employer just has to keep the I-9 on file for a few years, but doesn't have to forward it to anybody, an illegal alien can work there until the cows go home. Hence, employers increasingly ask to have a look at the applicants Green Card or work visa.

Although this may be more than what is required to show, smart people looking for work don't mind showing their Green Card. Why would they? It sure beats not showing it and continue looking for a job. The only ones who are not willing to show their Green Card are either trying to work illegally or are trouble makers. Employers don't like either neither one.

Yea I didn't feel bothered or harassed in any way about it, they weren't rude or anything. I got the job before they even asked me about having a work visa or green card. When I went for my first day they asked for a copy of it and had me fill out the I-9 etc. After looking for a year+ for a job, I didn't think too much of what they were asking when I finally got the job.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

And who would blame them?

Especially at times where SS cards can be faked easily and driver licenses mean squat in regard to work authorization (I and ten thousands of other people got it with a tourist visa), it's understandable that some employers want to make sure that the person applying for the job is authorized to work. So while the I-9 instructions allow to prove this with a driver license and an unrestricted SS card, it's not really proof. Add to this that the employer just has to keep the I-9 on file for a few years, but doesn't have to forward it to anybody, an illegal alien can work there until the cows go home. Hence, employers increasingly ask to have a look at the applicants Green Card or work visa.

Although this may be more than what is required to show, smart people looking for work don't mind showing their Green Card. Why would they? It sure beats not showing it and continue looking for a job. The only ones who are not willing to show their Green Card are either trying to work illegally or are trouble makers. Employers don't like either neither one.

Bob,

I am tired of you giving this advice to members. It is patently false. If a person gives an employer a non-restricted SS card and a driver's license, that satisfies the law. The employer has performed due diligence and IS BREAKING THE LAW if the ask that person to provide ANY FURTHER PROOF that they are authorized to work.

Your advice to members here is a violation of the terms of service of this website.

I am now reporting you.

Hm yea this place required the green card or work visa as proof. Of being Legit.. tho I think i'm the first person who is NOT American born to be working there.

That is no excuse for their discriminatory request.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Rebecca Jo,

I understand that this is your pet peeve. I maintain that my advice is neither illegal nor against VJ's rules. On the contrary, it's a common sense approach that I myself would use if I were looking for a job. It's the same approach that I would use if I had a job to fill. It's the one approach smart people use when trying to get hired.

If the employer asks about the applicant's immigration status or asks if the applicant would mind showing their Green Card, applicants can always refuse to answer that question or clearly state that they will not show their Green Card. It's voluntary, and while my guess is that most people would comply with the employer's request, I'm sure there are some, like you, who wouldn't. Like so many things in life, it's a choice.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Rebecca Jo,

I understand that this is your pet peeve. I maintain that my advice is neither illegal nor against VJ's rules. On the contrary, it's a common sense approach that I myself would use if I were looking for a job. It's the same approach that I would use if I had a job to fill. It's the one approach smart people use when trying to get hired.

If the employer asks about the applicant's immigration status or asks if the applicant would mind showing their Green Card, applicants can always refuse to answer that question or clearly state that they will not show their Green Card. It's voluntary, and while my guess is that most people would comply with the employer's request, I'm sure there are some, like you, who wouldn't. Like so many things in life, it's a choice.

Bob - Some of the people who read these forums are not native English speakers. Some who read here think everything they read on Vj must be the truth. There are various and sundry reasons why people study these forums, not the least of which is to get correct advice.

To tell new immigrants to American that they will be considered "troublemakers" if they refuse to comply with an illegal request is wrong! Do you really want people, who have come here in good faith for advice, to think that everyone believes the same as you! How dare you bully people into believing this!

And just for the record, this is not a "pet peeve" of mine. It's a fact. I came to study this part of the process while my husband spent 18 months waiting on a green card, during which time he had to purchase a second EAD. There is no pet peeve in what I write. I know what the law and what is required of an employer. For you to come here and spout your nonsense is wrong on so many levels.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Rebecca Jo,

You are entitled to your opinion; I am entitled to mine. Guess we have to agree that we disagree here and leave it at that.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

Rebecca Jo,

You are entitled to your opinion; I am entitled to mine. Guess we have to agree that we disagree here and leave it at that.

No, we don't have to agree to disagree.

You are advising people (who have paid a lot of money to make themselves "legal") that they need to roll over and play dead when faced with an illegal request. Come on. That's just really insulting.