Getting a SSN, Civil Surgeon etc

[Messybrownhair 251]

I know this topic has been beaten to death, but I am going to try to get my SSN next week and would just like to confirm stuff.

I need to fill out the form and print out the proof that k1 visaholders are allowed to get a SSN, bring my passport with visa and i-94.. anything else? birth certificate or something?

We are planning to go next Wednesday when Tim gets back from his training, and that would be 13 working days since my POE.

I hope there won't be any govt shutdown!!

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We are also planning to see the civil surgeon next week.. aside from the vaccination sheet and CD, will they need anything else?

[Messybrownhair 251]

Oh and if I do get the SSN in my maiden name and then go back to have it changed later on, will the number change? No, right? Just making sure, because we are planning to get a military ID for me right away once we are wed, and they need a SSN for me to get one.

[MikeandJaq 0]

No ur Ssn still the same:-))

Oh and if I do get the SSN in my maiden name and then go back to have it changed later on, will the number change? No, right? Just making sure, because we are planning to get a military ID for me right away once we are wed, and they need a SSN for me to get one.

[pepper 34]

Hello! About getting an SSN bring your passport with your BC because I was asked for it.I got mine 2wks after arriving so I hope that you're already on the SAVE database.And you're number wont change so dont worry about it go ahead and get a military ID.

As for the CS there are lots and I mean lots of them who will tell you that you need to undergo another medical again and I know that you're aware that you dont need another one.Like most VJers I went to a public health clinic and had all my vaccinations completed there.Then I was given a vaccination supplement/document which I took with me to the CS.Then the CS transcribed to the I-693....

Goodluck!!

Edited March 2, 2011 by earp

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I've moved this topic from the AOS forum to the Working & Travelling During US Immigration forum as a more appropriate location for this topic

[I'm Gone 60]

I know this topic has been beaten to death.

Many times over. LOL

I need to fill out the form and print out the proof that k1 visaholders are allowed to get a SSN, bring my passport with visa and i-94.. anything else? birth certificate or something?

We suggest that individuals that have entered the United States with non-immigrant status wait at least 10 calendar days before submitting a Social Security number (SSN) application to allow the Department of Homeland Security time to record entry into their database, but individuals are not required to wait 10 days before applying.

RM 10213.305 Procedure when an SSN Applicant Files for an SSN within 10 Days of Arriving in the U.S or Having a Change in Status:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110213305

An individual that entered the United States with K-1 status applying for a work authorized SSN must present evidence at one of our offices to establish his or her age, identity, and current lawful employment authorized status.

An individual needs to provide at least two documents as evidence to establish age, identity, and current lawful employment authorized status.

Example: If the immigration document, for example, Form I-94, Form I-551, Form I-766, is used to establish work authorization and identity, the alien must provide another document to establish age.

We will not assign an SSN or issue a card to an individual that is within 14 days of his or her alien status expiring. Until the 76th day after entry an individual with K-1 status only needs to provide an unexpired I-94 showing current K-1 status to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

Once, an individual that entered the United States with K-1 status has been in the United States 76 days he or she will need another document, for example, Form I-551, Form I-766, to establish employment authorized status for SSN purposes.

RM 10211.420 Employment Authorization for Non-immigrants:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110211420

RM 10211.025 Evidence of Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) Status for an SSN Card:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110211025

Note: Marriage does not affect an individual with K-1 status's eligibility to be assigned an SSN, or issued a card.

We accept all marriage documents issued within the 50 United States, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Samoa.

RM 10212.025 Evidence of Name Change based on a US Ceremonial Marriage:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110212025

We can accept a name change document based on marriage as evidence of the new name to be shown on the card, if the new name can be derived from the marriage document.

Any of the following changes to the last name, using the names shown on the evidence, are permitted:

-- bride takes the groom’s last name;

-- groom takes bride’s last name;

-- spouse or partner takes the other parties’ last name;

-- spouse or partner takes one part of the other parties’ compound surname;

-- compound name (with or without hyphen) of each spouse’s or partner’s original surname for either or both parties

Example:

Lisa Foster submits evidence of the name change event, her US ceremonial marriage to Bryan Lee-Walsh. She wants to change her surname to a compound surname, Foster Lee, with only part of Bryan’s surname. Since this new name can be derived from the prior names shown on the marriage document, the marriage document is acceptable evidence of the new name. We may also change Lisa’s surname to one of the following if she requests it:

-- WALSH,

-- LEE-WALSH (or reverse, with or without space or hyphen),

-- LEE FOSTER (with or without space or hyphen, Foster Lee could also have a hyphen or not

have a space)

-- FOSTER WALSH (or reverse, with or without space or hyphen)

-- FOSTER LEE WALSH (in any order, with or without spaces or hyphens)

The marriage document can also be used as acceptable evidence of identity, if it shows Lisa’s prior name (Lisa Foster) and either her age, birth date, or parents’ names, that matches the data on the SSN record, and the marriage took place within the prior two years.

RM 10212.055 Evidence Required to Process a Name Change on the SSN based on Marriage, Civil Union and Domestic Partnership:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110212055

This is in addition to proof of current lawful employment authorized status.

A foreign-born person’s legal name is the name shown on his or her immigration document, for example, Form I-94.

If the required documents show clearly different names, we cannot accept the evidence to process the application. In these situations, the applicant must submit evidence showing the same name, or submit evidence of a name change that occurred after the immigration document was issued.

RM 10212.001 Defining the Legal Name for an SSN:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110212001

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. We cannot accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

If an acceptable evidence document is in a language other than English and no other acceptable document is available, we will have the foreign language document translated by an authorized translator.

SSA translators comprise two groups:

-- Field office and Payment Center employees who volunteer their services as translators

-- Central Translation Section translators who hold actual translator positions.

GN 00301.340 Authorized Translators Defined:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0200301340

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. In some situations we can accept alternative evidence of age. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, for example, foreign passport.

You can find links to detailed information regarding evidence that establishes age on our Web site:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110210250

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative value of documents.

Primary Identity Evidence for an alien:

-- Form I-551, Permanent Resident Card (includes temporary I-551 Stamp in combination with an unexpired foreign passport when the I- 551 Permanent Resident Card has not yet been issued)

-- Form I-94, Arrival/departure Record in combination with an unexpired foreign passport

-- Form I-766, Employment Authorization card in combination with an unexpired foreign passport

Note: Document must be unexpired

Secondary Identity Evidence for an alien:

-- Unexpired valid U.S. driver’s license (excludes licenses known to be suspended or revoked)

-- U.S. State issued non-driver identity card (issued by the same State agency which issues driver’s licenses/State-level agency with issuing authority over the State’s identity card and not expired)

-- Marriage document showing in addition to the applicant’s name either the applicant’s date of birth (DOB) or age

-- Certified copy of medical record (clinic, doctor, or hospital) or letter providing extract data from the medical record showing in addition to the applicant’s name, the applicant’s DOB or age

-- Health insurance or Medicaid card showing, in addition to the person’s name, either a photograph of the person or his/her DOB

-- School identity card or record (for current school year) showing, in addition to the applicant’s name, either a photograph of the applicant or the applicant’s DOB

-- Life insurance policy for the person showing his/her age or DOB.

However, the acceptability of an identity document must be evaluated on a case by case basis by the office processing the application.

RM 10210.405 Evidence of Identity for an SSN Card:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110210405

RM 10210.420 List of Documents in Priority of Acceptability for Use as Evidence of Identity:

http://policy.ssa.go.../lnx/0110210420

We cannot accept an application filing receipt or notice of action as evidence of an immigration document, or an immigration document with a “valid from” date in the future.

Exception: We can accept an expired I-551 card accompanied by a Form I-797C (Notice of Action) stating, “Your conditional resident status is extended for a period of one year as evidence of LPR status.”

Normally, an SSN card should be received in the mail within two weeks after the application and required document(s) have been received and verified.

However, when an alien requests an SSN or replacement card, we must verify his or her documents/current status with the appropriate bureau of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). If the initial online verification is not possible through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, we may need to send a Form G-845 to the appropriate DHS Status Verification Office (SVO) for manual verification.

Social Security field offices can submit an additional electronic online verification, which with the majority of applications eliminates the need to send a Form G-845 along with a copy of the applicant’s immigration documents.

However, some applications still require a copy of the immigration document(s) to be mailed to the appropriate DHS SVO along with Form G-845 for manual verification.

Note: If the applicant has changed his/her name after an immigration document, for example, Form I-94, was issued, for example, married and is now using the married name, but has not obtained a corrected immigration document showing the new name; this is not a name discrepancy for enumeration purposes, that is, SAVE clearance, if the applicant can provide an acceptable legal name change document to establish the new name.

The 14-day status expiration limit for assigning an SSN and/or issuing a card applies even if an individual submitted his or her application before being within the 14-day period and entered the 14-day period while waiting for his or her status to be verified.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the Form SS-5.

I hope there won't be any govt shutdown!!

Me too. Good for at least a couple more weeks.

[I'm Gone 60]

Oh and if I do get the SSN in my maiden name and then go back to have it changed later on, will the number change? No, right?

Correct. Once assigned, your number for life, and beyond, since they aren't reused after the number holder dies.

[Messybrownhair 251]

thank you!!!!

10 calendar days.. so that means i dont need to wait 10-14 working days?? means i can try and get it tomorrow?? hmmm...

ahhh fine i think to be sure i will just wait till next week..

[Haarp425 26]

You go inside SSA local office and touch 2nd box on the screen to get your number ticket (new SSN card).

Have your husband speak with the SSA staff.

If SSA staff tells you, you are K-1 visa holder and so you are no longer a fiancee because you got married (they will be ready to deny you), politely tell the the SSA staff "the K-1 visa does not change to any other visa after getting married" and request for the "Office Manager". Explain to them again and if possible show the document and highlight the Note: Marriage does not affect an individual with K-1 status's eligibility to be assigned an SSN, or issued a card.

Edited March 3, 2011 by Haarp425