Preparing for the next collapse

[mawilson 2,133]

And P.S., first it is great if the government shuts down......second Obama has done everything right so far, really no disappointment there or complaints, third I have my grenade launcher, AK47, and 2 week supply of SPAM just in case all hell breaks loose, which is not a question of "will it happen" but "when it will happen"....

You don't get it, do you?

1) Even without a budget in place, the federal government never fully shuts down. Ever. Sorry but I just can't seem to care about a fake shutdown.

2) Obama doesn't control spending, Congress does. As President, Obama is not worse than any other Republican-Democrat regimer and in some ways better.

3) A collapse is inevitable because Congress will never do anything to really fix the spending problem. They will play good politics with their PR machine and make it *look* like they are doing something useful to fix the problem, but they will never ask the American people (or DoD) to make any sacrifices.

This coming Wednesday, Obama will unveil his own "fiscal austerity plan" to counter Ryan's plan. Rest assured that his plan will take us one step forward and two steps back, just like Ryan's plan and all the other Republican-Democrat regimer plans.

[Dakine10 5,452]

I can eat what I hit with a gun

Better chance at survival with a gun and a fishing pole for food other then trying to grow your own from any kind of seeds non genetic eng. or engineered. If you have a collapse first you need a sizeable area with good soil that can produce an ongoing food sources year round, not everyone has that, many vegetable plants take 60 or more days from seed to harvest, with no guarantee you get any fruits of labor at all. You need a water source, will water be pumped to your tap? If your trying to grow indoors in the winter time will you have electricity, you need some good knowledge of indoor hydroponics and lots of space to grow.

My wife and I have a 8'x30' garden and grow many types of robust vegetable year round in Hawaii but we lose a lot of plants to pests disease and even wind, I'll take a gun and my fishing pole!

I had more luck growing vegetables on Maui than anywhere else I have ever lived. The good thing you guys have going is an almost unlimited supply of fresh water from rain. The bad thing for people there will be if food stops getting shipped in from the mainland.

I'm not as sure as others are about hunting. It will only work if everyone doesn't have the same idea. There's not enough wild game around to support 300 million people. We'd be down to squirrels PDQ.

Edited April 12, 2011 by Dakine10

[slim 1,530]

My grandpa was in the army and went to Korea

I'm sure after seeing how the Koreans live he figured there were things he could do here to increase his chances if bad things happened.

Every year I was in NWA,

Say hi to Cube for me!

after a bit you run out of ammo.

Define "a bit."

I have my grenade launcher,

You mean "flare launcher?"

I'm not as sure as others are about hunting. It will only work if everyone doesn't have the same idea. There's not enough wild game around to support 300 million people. We'd be down to squirrels PDQ.

I believe we're going to be down below 300 million people PDQ as well. Not that there'll be enough squirrels to go around, but in response to some of the posters who are going to just make due and live off the land, survive in the wilderness, etc., I wonder what they're going to do about all those other hunters out there - and not the ones who are hunting small game. The ones who are hunting anything edible.

What is your plan to deal with those?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I'm sure after seeing how the Koreans live he figured there were things he could do here to increase his chances if bad things happened.

Say hi to Cube for me!

Define "a bit."

You mean "flare launcher?"

I believe we're going to be down below 300 million people PDQ as well. Not that there'll be enough squirrels to go around, but in response to some of the posters who are going to just make due and live off the land, survive in the wilderness, etc., I wonder what they're going to do about all those other hunters out there - and not the ones who are hunting small game. The ones who are hunting anything edible.

What is your plan to deal with those?

Stay hidden I guess. Shoot them only if they are a threat. After all, we are carrying the light. (10 points for understanding the light reference)

[Kevin and 10]

Stay hidden I guess. Shoot them only if they are a threat. After all, we are carrying the light. (10 points for understanding the light reference)

"The Road"

Can I get a cookie too?

[slim 1,530]

I was super disappointed by The Road.

What kind of "incident" would kill all animals and bugs... but not humans?

The one thing I liked about that movie though - the dude with the shotgun was doing just fine!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I was super disappointed by The Road.

What kind of "incident" would kill all animals and bugs... but not humans?

The one thing I liked about that movie though - the dude with the shotgun was doing just fine!

I assumed it was a super volcano which would cause mass extinction since most plants can't complete photosynthesis.

Edited April 12, 2011 by Sousuke

[slim 1,530]

I assumed it was a super volcano which would cause mass extinction since most plants can't complete photosynthesis.

Then why'd all the cockroaches die off? They would've had plenty to eat for a while.

[lostinblue 1,989]

I was super disappointed by The Road.

What kind of "incident" would kill all animals and bugs... but not humans?

The one thing I liked about that movie though - the dude with the shotgun was doing just fine!

I thought global warming was the cause ....

[Kevin and 10]

I was super disappointed by The Road.

What kind of "incident" would kill all animals and bugs... but not humans?

The one thing I liked about that movie though - the dude with the shotgun was doing just fine!

I wondered where he got his food from. There wasn't much around and he still had his dog and he wasn't a cannibal.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

I assumed it was a super volcano which would cause mass extinction since most plants can't complete photosynthesis.

that was pretty much my thoughts too - in one scene it looked like ash was falling - the deer scene.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I was super disappointed by The Road.

What kind of "incident" would kill all animals and bugs... but not humans?

The one thing I liked about that movie though - the dude with the shotgun was doing just fine!

The nature of the incident isn't relevant to the story. The only purpose it serves is for scene setting.

[slim 1,530]

I wondered where he got his food from. There wasn't much around and he still had his dog and he wasn't a cannibal.

He had canned goods and bottled water in his basement.

The nature of the incident isn't relevant to the story. The only purpose it serves is for scene setting.

That's why it was a stupid movie. In good movies, they think that sort of thing through.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's why it was a stupid movie. In good movies, they think that sort of thing through.

It's an adaptation of a Cormac McCarthy novel - knowing what caused the disaster adds nothing to the story. It's about the relationship between the guy and his son.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I think the novel was better than the film. There were a few gruesome scenes that were left out of the film.

Edited April 12, 2011 by Sousuke