Preparing for the next collapse

[mawilson 2,133]

I was just thinking about this. I guess I've never really worried about this because I know any preparation I could ever think of has already been taken care of on many levels.

Taken care of how?

[Amby 490]

Taken care of how?

have you not seen my past posts about all the stuff they've done just in case there's another depression?

[Nasturtium 500]

Whats all this about guns? You can't eat a gun.

If you truly want to be prepared for a collapse, the number one thing you can do is become self sufficient. Stockpile non genetically engineered seeds and grow your own food.

Sure a gun or two is important for defending yourself with no law enforcement, but food and water is the key.

This is true. There was mention about gold a bit back and gold works to a point but not if everyone was actually in a starvation/food shortage situation. You end up more in a Katrina kind of thing.

Which, for all who are reading this and thinking this is seriously tinfoil... there is tinfoil stuff and then there is practicality. I live in a place that gets major ice storms and tornadoes... and now earthhquakes like crazy. It is just sensible to have a plan to survive if a bad storm happens. Every year I was in NWA, I'd hear about the poor people who live in OK. That place is crazy. tey would get an ice storm in january and then a tornado and be cut off for 2 weeks... no power, no way out. If you're in that situation, you're going to want a means of heat, a way to cook, and something to eat. you'll need water stored. It's just common sense when you live in a storm area. In the same way that I try to store food, I also have blankets and such in order to get through a heat outage. That kind of thing happens here when there is a hige ice storm and the roads become impassible with treefalls and such.

I would imagine that half-way sensible people who live in hurricaine areas do the same thing with at least accounting for the idea that something could happen.

[Nasturtium 500]

In what I presume will be a post-currency barter economy with either no law enforcement or third-world-style corrupt law enforcement, guns could be a valuable commodity for barter.

This is true up to a point, but after a bit you run out of ammo. So then you're left with the utility of the gun you have and if you can smelt or melt down something to fire in it (or if it's able to be loaded up with something else-- like basically making your own buckshot). Pioneer days they were melting down the pewter spoons when they ran out of ammo. Not many people can do that now. Then you need some kind of black powder to cause your explosion...

[Nasturtium 500]

In a barter based economy, people with things like rice can get themselves a gun and people with guns can get themselves rice. It's people without anything to barter who will starve.

Of course, this does not make allowances for people acting like animals so is flawed to begin with.

Which can easily happen based on already happened events we've all witnessed. The flip side is something more docile like Japan.

And if our scientists (yes, i know they're not real people and are basically a bunch of librul pansies but sometimes they do come up with useful chit) can complete work on the invisibility cloak then you might not even need a gun.

Or a leprachaun. I heard they can grant wishes. You'll be cool Jenn if you have one of those. I heard AJ has one...

[natty bumppo 297]

This is true. There was mention about gold a bit back and gold works to a point but not if everyone was actually in a starvation/food shortage situation. You end up more in a Katrina kind of thing.

Which, for all who are reading this and thinking this is seriously tinfoil... there is tinfoil stuff and then there is practicality. I live in a place that gets major ice storms and tornadoes... and now earthhquakes like crazy. It is just sensible to have a plan to survive if a bad storm happens. Every year I was in NWA, I'd hear about the poor people who live in OK. That place is crazy. tey would get an ice storm in january and then a tornado and be cut off for 2 weeks... no power, no way out. If you're in that situation, you're going to want a means of heat, a way to cook, and something to eat. you'll need water stored. It's just common sense when you live in a storm area. In the same way that I try to store food, I also have blankets and such in order to get through a heat outage. That kind of thing happens here when there is a hige ice storm and the roads become impassible with treefalls and such.

I would imagine that half-way sensible people who live in hurricaine areas do the same thing with at least accounting for the idea that something could happen.

so how does preparation for these events differ from what i grew up with? i was taught to live off the land .... my grandparents/ parents taught me well.

so shall we start a thread about canning foods?

[Nasturtium 500]

so how does preparation for these events differ from what i grew up with? i was taught to live off the land .... my grandparents/ parents taught me well.

so shall we start a thread about canning foods?

It really doesn't. The difference now is that what was once more or less common sense/knowledge has now been replaced by other ways of life. I just started canning. I'm doing jams as my experimental medium, although I'm planning to branch out to fruit and veggie things. I used to grow a lot and it would be nice to do it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I will begin taking copious notes when I watch Survivorman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROJ1w-gJSwg

[natty bumppo 297]

It really doesn't. The difference now is that what was once more or less common sense/knowledge has now been replaced by other ways of life. I just started canning. I'm doing jams as my experimental medium, although I'm planning to branch out to fruit and veggie things. I used to grow a lot and it would be nice to do it.

heck ... i was taught as a young lad to always remember the three main components of a wood stove. the lifter... leg ...and poker. to keep these items in proper order would lead to happiness ....

seriously ... the one item that eludes me is to make a special type pickles like my grandmother made. they are sooo good ... my aunt threw out the recipe (mom doesn't have) and my grandmother can't tell me how to make ... she can only do ... and i live 1300 miles from her ...

[Amby 490]

heck ... i was taught as a young lad to always remember the three main components of a wood stove. the lifter... leg ...and poker. to keep these items in proper order would lead to happiness ....

seriously ... the one item that eludes me is to make a special type pickles like my grandmother made. they are sooo good ... my aunt threw out the recipe (mom doesn't have) and my grandmother can't tell me how to make ... she can only do ... and i live 1300 miles from her ...

I guess another reason I don't worry so much is because I know how to do all the "live off the land" type stuff. Learning to do that stuff was fun when I was little.

[Kevin and 10]

It really doesn't. The difference now is that what was once more or less common sense/knowledge has now been replaced by other ways of life. I just started canning. I'm doing jams as my experimental medium, although I'm planning to branch out to fruit and veggie things. I used to grow a lot and it would be nice to do it.

I started canning a couple years ago. Its nice to have "fresh" veggies in the winter. I'm now starting to get into meats. Haven't done any fruits or jams yet.

[natty bumppo 297]

I guess another reason I don't worry so much is because I know how to do all the "live off the land" type stuff. Learning to do that stuff was fun when I was little.

it was fun ... lots of work too. it was neat to go into the basement / storm cellar and get something i helped preserve during the summer/ fall for dinner.

[sjr09 155]

Whats all this about guns? You can't eat a gun.

If you truly want to be prepared for a collapse, the number one thing you can do is become self sufficient. Stockpile non genetically engineered seeds and grow your own food.

Sure a gun or two is important for defending yourself with no law enforcement, but food and water is the key.

I can eat what I hit with a gun

Better chance at survival with a gun and a fishing pole for food other then trying to grow your own from any kind of seeds non genetic eng. or engineered. If you have a collapse first you need a sizeable area with good soil that can produce an ongoing food sources year round, not everyone has that, many vegetable plants take 60 or more days from seed to harvest, with no guarantee you get any fruits of labor at all. You need a water source, will water be pumped to your tap? If your trying to grow indoors in the winter time will you have electricity, you need some good knowledge of indoor hydroponics and lots of space to grow.

My wife and I have a 8'x30' garden and grow many types of robust vegetable year round in Hawaii but we lose a lot of plants to pests disease and even wind, I'll take a gun and my fishing pole!

Edited April 12, 2011 by sjr09

[웃 910]

YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY.

Edited April 12, 2011 by Lord Infamous

[웃 910]

Taken care of how?

And P.S., first it is great if the government shuts down......second Obama has done everything right so far, really no disappointment there or complaints, third I have my grenade launcher, AK47, and 2 week supply of SPAM just in case all hell breaks loose, which is not a question of "will it happen" but "when it will happen"....