Social Security Card Notation

[jeeleebee 0]

Hi all,

Can i get a new SS card without the notation "valid for work only with DHS authorization" when i get my green card (even if it's just the 2-year conditional green card?)

See my husband's credit union would not add me to his accounts since my SS card has this notation (they asked for a document showing my social security # as a requirement for adding me as a joint account holder and my actual card is the only document i have right now that has it (i dont have a driver's license and the SS # is not on my marriage certificate either since i applied for it after the wedding) so once they saw that notation I was told i cant be added

It's really annoying because i know for a fact other people were able create joint accounts without additional proof

Anyhow, I was just wondering when that notation can be removed from my SS card.

Thanks so much as always!

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Yes you can get the notation removed once you have your Greencard.... Don't know why they wont add you as that is your SSN and it wont change.... The notation just means that you need a EAD to work.... nothing more...

Kezzie

[I'm Gone 60]

When an individual was previously issued an SSN card with “NOT VALID FOR EMPLOYMENT” or with “VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH INS (or DHS) AUTHORIZATION” printed on it and has been granted permanent residency, he or she can apply for a replacement SSN card that reflects the new immigration status.

An alien granted permanent residency status is eligible to be issued an unrestricted SSN card and will retain the originally assigned SSN.

An alien applying for a work-authorized replacement SSN card must present evidence to establish identity and employment authorization.

When requesting an SSN card, the documents presented, as evidence must be either originals or copies certified by the issuing agency. SSA cannot accept uncertified or notarized photocopies as evidence.

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence of identity on our Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200#E

Employment Authorization Documents:

-- I-551 (Stamp or card)

-- Machine Readable Immigrant Visa (MRIV) with temporary I-551 language

Documents that establish lawfully admitted for permanent residence (LAPR)

-- I-551 card

NOTE: Some LAPR aliens have conditional 2-year I-551s (Alien Registration Receipt Card), subject to the limitation that they must apply for removal of the conditional basis 90 days before the second anniversary of the admittance date to the United States. A conditional I-551 is identified by an expiration date 2 years later than the admittance/adjudication date is acceptable proof of permanent residency.

-- Temporary I-551

Temporary evidence of immigrant status is issued for an alien to use

until the permanent I-551 card is received. This may be a stamp in the individual's passport or on the I-94.

-- Machine Readable Immigrant Visa (MRIV) with temporary I-551 language

Note: The MRIV shows the alien's identification number (“A” number) as the “Registration Number” in the upper right-hand corner of the MRIV.

The MRIV in an unexpired foreign passport that shows the statement “UPON ENDORSEMENT SERVES AS TEMPORARY I-551 EVIDENCING PERMANENT RESIDENCE FOR 1 YEAR and is endorsed with an admission stamp is the same as a valid Temporary I-551 stamp and is valid for one year from the date of endorsement by the admission stamp.

Example:

If the admission stamp shows a date of entry into the U.S. as January 4, 2004, the expiration of the temporary I-551 status will be January 3, 2005. The expiration date on the MRIV should not be used to determine when the temporary I-551 status expires. The expiration date on the MRIV only shows how long the MRIV is valid not how long the alien's temporary I-551 status is valid.

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

SSA will not accept a filing receipt or notice of action as proof of permanent residency or work authorization.

Form SS-5, “Application for a Social Security Card,” is the appropriate form to request a replacement card.

Form SS-5 can be requested by calling the SSA toll-free number, 1-800-772-1213 or download from our Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/online/ss-5.html

To read and print Form SS-5 at a personal computer, you will need the Adobe Acrobat Reader. The software is available free of charge from Adobe's Internet server at:

http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html

Complete the Form SS-5 and take it along with the required documents, to the nearest Social Security office.

You can obtain the address and directions to the nearest Social Security office from the Social Security Office Locator, which is available on the Internet at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Normally, an SSN card should be received in the mail within two weeks after the application and document(s) have been received and verified.

When an alien requests an SSN or replacement/corrected SSN card, SSA will verify his or her documents and current status with the appropriate Bureau of the Department of Homeland Security. If verification is not available through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) system, SSA will send Form G-845 for manual verification.

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

If the SSA office does send the G-845, suggest that you go back to the SSA office no more that once week with your documents to (1) ask them to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by calling or sending another mark “second request.”

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE

You can try calling the SSA Regional Office if you have waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't seem to be concerned about following up on the G-845

http://www.ssa.gov/otherssasites/

Refer them to:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740

RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

Step 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS. Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS.

Some SSA offices have an arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated “second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15 federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays (again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the Regional Office (RO). Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

All cards are mailed from Social Security Headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland to the postal address provided on the Form SS-5.

You may find additional SSN and employment information on the Internal Revenue Service Website at:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

[meauxna 15]

See my husband's credit union would not add me to his accounts since my SS card has this notation

that's sort of a BS excuse---did you try speaking to the manager, or someone more familiar with the Real ID Act (this is why they want the SS#).

I think they made an error.

[jeeleebee 0]

thanks for the reply kezzie

regarding the issue about getting a joint account, i was told that it's because they are a credit union that's why they cannot add me, that it will be a compliance issue, their rules do not allow someone with that kind of SS card to be added to an existing account or open a new account with them

i really dont think they know what they are talking about but then again i cant make them add me (i already tried twice)

also i went to the SSA office today and i was told that the only time i can have that notation removed is when i bring in my certificate of naturalization (of course i questioned that and said i should only need a greencard to have a regular SS card but the lady at the window was quite firm that i need to be a citizen)

i have learned to be skeptical at what government employees tell me so i checked the SSA website and found this link:

http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/cards.htm

This link states the following:

We issue three types of Social Security cards:

1. The card most people have shows your name and Social Security number and lets you work without restriction. We issue this card to:

U.S. citizens, or people who are lawfully admitted to the U.S. for permanent residence or who have permission from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to work permanently in the U.S.

2. The second type of card bears the legend, "NOT VALID FOR EMPLOYMENT." We issue this card to people who:

are lawfully admitted to the U.S. but don't have DHS permission to work. You need this card if a federal or state law requires you to have a Social Security number to get a benefit or service; or are living in the U.S. and don't have DHS permission to work but, because they're entitled to a federally funded benefit, are required by federal law to have a Social Security number to receive the benefit.

3. The third type of card bears the legend, "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION." We issue this card to people who have DHS permission to work temporarily in the U.S. Cards issued prior to April 2004 bear the legend, "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH INS AUTHORIZATION."

hope this helps someone out in the future...

thanks also for the new info meauxna and mdyoung

when i was posting my reply i hadnt seen your posts yet, only kezzie's

thanks again!