about income tax

[Island-Girl 0]

hello vjer's

im going to apply citizenship pretty soon but i have question about our income tax. Were planning to file married but separate, because its better to file separate so i can get my return, because my husband has an issues of irs before so if we file joint I cant get any return. Last 2 years ago we filed joint for removal sake. Now my question is does it affect my citizenship application if we file separate???

[Sand 5]

Hi.

you are not the only one who applied separatly. and should not be a problem during the interview. but be prepare to answer this question === > Why did u file separate?

Wait for better answer Please.

[Island-Girl 0]

Hi.

you are not the only one who applied separatly. and should not be a problem during the interview. but be prepare to answer this question === > Why did u file separate?

Wait for better answer Please.

COZ my husband has lien tax till now, so my husband said if i want to get tax return we do it separately.

[Sand 5]

It's Important to pay ur Taxes on time. even if u owe them money. you still can pay by payments. but u have to have a proof of payments.

if ur pay ur taxes on time. you should be fine . god willing.

[Island-Girl 0]

It's Important to pay ur Taxes on time. even if u owe them money. you still can pay by payments. but u have to have a proof of payments.

if ur pay ur taxes on time. you should be fine . god willing.

i dnt problem about that. my question about filing jointly or separate.

[Sand 5]

Then, dont worry about that :)But make sure to add some

evidence in both names

Edited February 11, 2011 by Sand

[Island-Girl 0]

oh yah of course... thanks

[jkelly07 120]

you file joint in the past,this year you want to file married seperate,and the tax form has the same address,the main thing is that you filed your taxes,they may ask a lot of questions, but i think you will be ok,good luck

[NickD 202]

What a huge burden every year, especially if you own a business. Was all set to do my taxes in the early part of January, not sending out booklets anymore, got on the IRS website and no forms to download. Weren't available until February 5th. Knew I had to download eight different forms, tried the search engine with every possible combination, what a worthless search engine, couldn't find any of the forms.

So ending up scrolling through over 2,000 forms and publications until I finally found all eight forms I needed. This is crazy!!! Looking over the 1040, for each line would tell you what publication or form you had to fill out, don't do that anymore, that requires a lot more searching. Also when running a business, a fine line between capital gains and earned income, depending on whether you sell a piece of equipment or rebuild it. But with the later, have to pay around 150 bucks for each thousand of earned income, with the former, you don't. Who makes these crazy laws?

Then FICA taxes are all pre-income tax, and you have to pay income taxes on top of that. Also noted on the 1040, if you are getting SS benefits, have to pay tax on that as well. Thought taxing a tax was once illegal, but not anymore, many more instances you are paying taxes on a tax, like your outrageous taxes on your cable and phone bills.

But you have to do it or end up in jail, but it seems like they go out of their way to make filing absolutely miserable. Just paid a huge personal property tax bill for services that I have never received, but if I don't, will take my home and business away, auction it off and toss me out on the street. What happened to this country?

Also see on our health insurance, both rates and the amount of deductible went up, by working our cans off, are we now paying for people that are not working their butts off? A complete contradiction to how this country was formed.

If all your income is on a W-2, really getting screwed, none of the equipment, clothing, transportation you are required for work is deductible. And now see huge limits on Schedule A if you itemized deductions. If on the other hand, if you are a CEO, can deduct your private jet at 100% and that box at an NFL football stadium, plus a ton of other deductions.

Tax system is extremely unfair, but yet not one American complains about it, we are just like sheep waiting to be slaughtered with full trust in our shepherds. Really surprised there isn't a major tax strike in this country. Only a few congressman stated the IRS is way over complicated, and are over 2,000 forms and publications really necessary?

And who in the hell writes these forms and publications? Someone that never made it past the third grade?

[bonnerbonner 6]

Island Girl, I was in a similar situation like you. There are two things that you can do, married filing separately (which I did 2 years ago) and that was before ROC. My IO didn't ask me any questions but all IOs are not the same. Your other option which you can do is married filing jointly (which is what I will be doing this year) but with an additional step, an additional form called Injured Spouse. This will ensure you get what is owed to you as you are NOT responsible for the debt with IRS prior to marrying him. The only reason I did not do it last year was that it did not make sense monetary. Whatever you do, do Not file head of household or single, this can have an adverse effect on your N400 interview. My hubby does not have a lien but we have a payment installment agreement with them for previous years (pre me). Your IO might or might not ask for some document from IRS showing his lien, but then again might not as the citizenship will be moreso about you and moral character. Good luck on your citizenship journey from one island girl to the next.

[Island-Girl 0]

Island Girl, I was in a similar situation like you. There are two things that you can do, married filing separately (which I did 2 years ago) and that was before ROC. My IO didn't ask me any questions but all IOs are not the same. Your other option which you can do is married filing jointly (which is what I will be doing this year) but with an additional step, an additional form called Injured Spouse. This will ensure you get what is owed to you as you are NOT responsible for the debt with IRS prior to marrying him. The only reason I did not do it last year was that it did not make sense monetary. Whatever you do, do Not file head of household or single, this can have an adverse effect on your N400 interview. My hubby does not have a lien but we have a payment installment agreement with them for previous years (pre me). Your IO might or might not ask for some document from IRS showing his lien, but then again might not as the citizenship will be moreso about you and moral character. Good luck on your citizenship journey from one island girl to the next.

hello thank you so much for the information i really appreciate it!!!! you really answered my question direct to the point1 so i can file married joint including the injured spouse form?

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

No, doesn't matter. What matters is that you file as married, nothing else.

[bonnerbonner 6]

YES - Married Filing Jointly & Injured Spouse

YES - it matters if you want your refund, and do NOT want Uncle Sam to keep it and apply it to your husband's debt.

[NickD 202]

Damned State of Wisconsin held me legally liable for my ex's debts, even after we were legally separated where the court order said I was no longer liable for her future debts. Had to pay those, but was finally free of her after the divorce. IRS was not one of them, only owe them money if you made an income, she never had an income.

One thing I like about income taxes, you don't have to pay unless you have an income, property taxes are a crime, have to put away at least 500 bucks a month into an account to meet that expense, that has to be paid whether you have an income or not, and even outrageous if you live in a dump. If you don't pay, auction your home off and toss you are into the street.

Wifes' employer was never withholding enough, had her check on that, they claim its correct, have no idea how they are calculating her W-4, but rather than argue with them, just set up another account. Finally finished my taxes yesterday, IRS got a nice big fat check. But I can only wonder what they are doing with our money, feel like we are being legally robbed. Since I am self-employed, have to sent in estimated tax payments every three months. While you may think that is your money, it is not, even though you worked your can off to get it. If business drops to nothing, then you don't send that money in, so how does one manage to go into debt with the IRS? You may even have a loss and at that time you are tax free and get back all that money you paid in.

So how does one go into debt with the IRS? Poor job of filing your taxes? Most W-4's withhold too much of your money and you get a buck or two refund. And with a business have fixed operating expenses each month, and without a sufficient gross income, have no net income, and even operate at a loss, so no taxes are due. Unless you are making a nice profit and blowing it at a casino or a race track, then you have other problems.

But I see the IRS has both injured spouse and innocent spouse forms, 8379 or the 8857 and have to learn which one fits your case. I know the USCIS wants to see tax returns, but never specified joint or separate returns, either are legal with the IRS. Had some posters here that both filed single or even both filed head of household. They are the ones that are in big trouble with the IRS, but filing married separately with the IRS is perfectly legal. But then dealing with idiots at the USCIS that more than likely pay someone to do their taxes for them and don't even know the IRS laws. Don't these idiots know there are 1,524 other government agencies that have their own laws and you can be in deep trouble with them? Like the DMV for making damn sure you pay your traffic violations. Its like double jeopardy.

Got teed off at the IRS doing my taxes this year, congress did extend the 2009 tax laws, but changes were made to eliminate key deductions increasing our tax bill. But you can't argue with Hitler.

[bradcanuck 1]

NickD,

That's why I am moving my business to Canada. The US has just gotten crazy. I set up shop April 1st.