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REDDING, Calif. - A 62-year-old woman gave birth Friday to a healthy 6-pound, 9-ounce baby boy, becoming one of the oldest women in the world to successfully bear a child.

Janise Wulf gave birth to her 12th child. She is also a grandmother of 20 and a great-grandmother of three.

Family members said the delivery went smoothly, despite earlier concerns about the mother's health. Wulf, a diabetic, experienced swelling and higher blood pressure earlier this week, prompting doctors to perform the Caesarean section a week early.

Wulf and her third husband, Scott, 48, named the red-haired boy Adam Charles Wulf. He follows just 3 1/2 years behind his older brother, Ian.

"I hate to raise one alone, without a sibling," said Wulf, who was impregnated both times through in vitro fertilization.

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Here's my question....WHY does a woman who has already had ELEVEN children need to undergo invitro fertilization???????? Nevermind the fact that she's 62... :huh:

Edited by Frances

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ouch! :o

Daniel

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It's not just a matter of choosing to have another baby. Perhaps if she were meant to get pregnant by conventional means...she would have...perhaps her body was saying whoa, enough.

With the risks involved, in my opinion, invitro should be the last resort for women who have undergone other methods to conceive and who haven't been successful, not someone who wants to be a babymaker...

Edited by Frances

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Thats crazy :yes:

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It's not just a matter of choosing to have another baby. Perhaps if she were meant to get pregnant by conventional means...she would have...perhaps her body was saying whoa, enough.

So you're opposed to the fact that her pregnancy wasn't natural?

Abortion, when conducted in abortion clinics, do not occur naturally either.

Yet, in those cases, "her body, her choice" seems to be the argument of choice.

Why is it so unacceptable here?

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Mexico
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**stepping really slowly out of this one***

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

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Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

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So you're opposed to the fact that her pregnancy wasn't natural?

Abortion, when conducted in abortion clinics, do not occur naturally either.

Yet, in those cases, "her body, her choice" seems to be the argument of choice.

Why is it so unacceptable here?

A_S...she already has ELEVEN children...of which 10 were natural...

Yes, it's her choice...I didn't say that...I just said it's a selfish one. Anti-abortionists would say that abortion is selfish, I feel that this selfish....just an opinion, one I'm entitled to. ;)

Edited by Frances

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So you're opposed to the fact that her pregnancy wasn't natural?

Abortion, when conducted in abortion clinics, do not occur naturally either.

Yet, in those cases, "her body, her choice" seems to be the argument of choice.

Why is it so unacceptable here?

A_S...she already has ELEVEN children...of which 10 were natural...

Yes, it's her choice...I didn't say that...I just said it's a selfish one. Anti-abortionists would say that abortion is selfish, I feel that is is selfish...just an opinion.

So you're judging her?

I thought judging other people was taboo with liberals? :P

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

Filed: Country: England
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So you're opposed to the fact that her pregnancy wasn't natural?

Abortion, when conducted in abortion clinics, do not occur naturally either.

Yet, in those cases, "her body, her choice" seems to be the argument of choice.

Why is it so unacceptable here?

A_S...she already has ELEVEN children...of which 10 were natural...

Yes, it's her choice...I didn't say that...I just said it's a selfish one. Anti-abortionists would say that abortion is selfish, I feel that is is selfish...just an opinion.

So you're judging her?

I thought judging other people was taboo with liberals? :P

Yeah, you're right...I should leave that to the "right"....they are so much better at it... :lol:

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Mexico
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that really isn't too hard nor uncommon missliss. some folks like go a romping at an early age. that is all. :D

Daniel

:energetic:

Ana (Mexico) ------ Daniel (California)(me)

---------------------------------------------

Sept. 11, 2004: Got married (civil), in Mexico :D

July 23, 2005: Church wedding

===============================

K3(I-129F):

Oct. 28, 2004: Mailed I-129F.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Nov. 3, 2004: NOA1!!!!

Nov. 5, 2004: Check Cashed!!

zzzz deep hibernationn zzzz

May 12, 2005 NOA2!!!! #######!!! huh???

off to NVC.

May 26, 2005: NVC approves I129F.

CR1(I-130):

Oct. 6, 2004: Mailed I-130.

~USPS, First-Class, Certified Mail, Rtn Recpt ($5.80)

Oct. 8, 2004: I-130 Delivered to CSC in Laguna Niguel.

~Per USPS website's tracking tool.

Oct. 12, 2004 BCIS-CSC Signs for I-130 packet.

Oct. 21, 2004 Check cashed!

Oct. 25, 2004 NOA1 (I-130) Go CSC!!

Jan. 05, 2005 Approved!!!! Off to NVC!!!!

===============================

NVC:

Jan. 05, 2005 ---> in route from CSC

Jan. 12, 2005 Case entered system

Jan. 29, 2005 Received I-864 Bill

Jan. 31, 2005 Sent Payment to St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 01, 2005 Wife received DS3032(Choice of Agent)

Feb. 05, 2005 Payment Received in St. Louis(I864)

Feb. 08, 2005 Sent DS3032 to Portsmouth NH

Feb. 12, 2005 DS3032 Received by NVC

Mar. 04, 2005 Received IV Bill

Mar. 04, 2005 Sent IV Bill Payment

Mar. 08, 2005 Received I864

Mar. 19, 2005 Sent I864

Mar. 21, 2005 I864 Received my NVC

Apr. 18, 2005 Received DS230

Apr. 19, 2005 Sent DS230

Apr. 20, 2005 DS230 received by NVC (signed by S Merfeld)

Apr. 22, 2005 DS230 entered NVC system

Apr. 27, 2005 CASE COMPLETE

May 10, 2005 CASE SENT TO JUAREZ

Off to Cd. Juarez! :D

calls to NVC: 6

===============================

CIUDAD JUAREZ, American Consulate:

Apr. 27, 2005 case completed at NVC.

May 10, 2005 in route to Juarez.

May 25, 2005 Case at consulate.

===============================

-- Legal Disclaimer:What I say is only a reflection of what I did, going to do, or may do; it may also reflect what I have read others did, are going to do, or may do. What you do or may do is what you do or may do. You do so or may do so strictly out of your on voilition; or follow what a lawyer advised you to do, or may do. Having said that: have a nice day!

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I don't know how a 62 year old woman is a great grandmother. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

That's totally possible....say she has an offspring who is 42, a grand child who is 22, and a great grandchild that's 2.

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Filed: Country: Guatemala
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I don't know how a 62 year old woman is a great grandmother. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

That's totally possible....say she has an offspring who is 42, a grand child who is 22, and a great grandchild that's 2.

Yeah, I just looked at it again and did some math and it worked out. Just seemed so young. My grandmother's 70 and still not a great-grandmother.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Personally, I figure that there's a reason a woman's body doesn't bear children after a certain age (whatever individual age that is), and that messing with that reason isn't necessarily good.

In these stories of women having kids at these ages, I always feel for the kids. I don't doubt that they can be good parents, but in perspective, the child could be facing the loss of said parent at age 12 or 13 (or younger even).

Electricity is really just organized lightning.

 

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