Full Bright Program

[Rightsreserved 1]

Everyone,

MY fiance was in the USA up until July 1st 2010. She entered the USA as a SLTA with Full Bright Program as a J-1 visa holder. She returned back to Pakistan prior to her visa expiring.

She worked for the State Department of USA under the full bright program.

We have been engaged for a while now and this distance is unbearable at times.

A few questions for the members out there,

1) My fiance can get a visitor visa and come back to the USA in no time... Will it be possible for us to get married and I apply for a status adjustment.

2) I am in the final stages of putting together the I-129F package but we're seeking alternate routes to be together faster instead of waiting for another a year for the K-1 to be approved.

3) Any and all helpful information will be appreciated.

Thank you,

[YuAndDan 153]

1) Treating a visit visa as if it were a K-1 visa is visa fraud, don't do it. You are proposing using a tourist visa with the INTENT to immigrate. If this were an option for tourists, then why does the K-1 exist?

2) No other options, you can do like others, a couple visits while I-129F is being processed.

3) You may consider marrying before filing a petition, then file an I-130 for a spouse visa, it has many positive aspects, this would require a visit in either country prior to petition filing.

Compare:

K-1 (FEES ~$1800)

K-1 cannot take a job until getting EAD or Green-card, this can take MONTHS after arrival

K-1 cannot get a DL until they have EAD or Green-card, can use foreign DL in most states though.

K-1 becomes land locked and cannot travel out of the USA until having green-card or AP doc, which can take MONTHS to get.

CR-1 (FEES ~$900)

CR-1 gets green-card the moment they arrive in the USA so can take a job immediately

CR-1 gets green-card so can apply for a DL

CR-1 gets green-card so can immediately travel, conceivable the next day, passport is stamped I-551 which allows work and travel

CR-1 does not take much longer to get than a K-1

One more thing, you say J-1, does it have a 2 year home residence requirement?

[Boiler 46,320]

Have you looked into how long it would take for you to move to her, it will probably be a lot quicker.

[stringged 1]

1) Treating a visit visa as if it were a K-1 visa is visa fraud, don't do it. You are proposing using a tourist visa with the INTENT to immigrate. If this were an option for tourists, then why does the K-1 exist?

2) No other options, you can do like others, a couple visits while I-129F is being processed.

3) You may consider marrying before filing a petition, then file an I-130 for a spouse visa, it has many positive aspects, this would require a visit in either country prior to petition filing.

Compare:

K-1 (FEES ~$1800)

K-1 cannot take a job until getting EAD or Green-card, this can take MONTHS after arrival

K-1 cannot get a DL until they have EAD or Green-card, can use foreign DL in most states though.

K-1 becomes land locked and cannot travel out of the USA until having green-card or AP doc, which can take MONTHS to get.

CR-1 (FEES ~$900)

CR-1 gets green-card the moment they arrive in the USA so can take a job immediately

CR-1 gets green-card so can apply for a DL

CR-1 gets green-card so can immediately travel, conceivable the next day, passport is stamped I-551 which allows work and travel

CR-1 does not take much longer to get than a K-1

One more thing, you say J-1, does it have a 2 year home residence requirement?

I thought the CR-1 (previously known as K3) took much much muchhhh longer than a K1. This is why my fiancee and I opted for the K1 because it was much quicker (regardless of the current delays).

[Boiler 46,320]

I thought the CR-1 (previously known as K3) took much much muchhhh longer than a K1. This is why my fiancee and I opted for the K1 because it was much quicker (regardless of the current delays).

K1 is marginally quicker.

CR1 and K3 are not the same.

[YuAndDan 153]

I thought the CR-1 (previously known as K3) took much much muchhhh longer than a K1. This is why my fiancee and I opted for the K1 because it was much quicker (regardless of the current delays).

Not anymore, I-130 for CR-1 is taking on average 5 months or less to get approved just like I-129F for K-1, CR-1 tends to take 1-2 months longer to get through to a visa interview due to additional paperwork needed to be done at the NVC stage.

CR-1 has always existed, K-3 was an OPTION for people petitioning for CR-1 or IR-1, K-3 involved first filing an I-130 for a CR-1/IR-1 visa and then IF I-130 was taking long, they would then file an I-129F for the K-3 OPTION.

Forget the K-3, improved processing at USCIS and NVC have eliminated it.

USCIS WILL tie the I-130 and I-129F together and approve on same date, then NVC WILL close the I-129F and proceed on with the CR-1.

MORE: http://travel.state....pes_2993.html#4

K-3 served only one function, it was derived at a time when I-130 was taking years to get approved, however now since I-130 is approved at same time as I-129F the function of K-3 (Entry to USA and WAITING for I-130 approval) no longer exists, so NVC kills the K-3 in favor of the superior CR-1 or IR-1 visa.

[Blob18 111]

Have you looked into how long it would take for you to move to her, it will probably be a lot quicker.

Yea, an American going to Pakistan to live...wonder how long he'd last. Especially after the Embassy/State Dept. person shot and killed two Pakistan citizens robbing him (Pakistan people don't care that they were robbing him either).

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Based on your questions Rights:

1: No you can't. That would be visa fraud. It wasn't something spontanious as you are here asking about it, so it would be considered 'planned immigration fraud'.

2: Nothing else really

3: K-1 is quicker, though she can't leave the US or travel until AOS/EAD/AP

CR-1 takes longer but she would have a greencard and be able to work/travel

[Rightsreserved 1]

Everyone,

The intent is for my fiance to move back to the USA not the other way around. I am well established in the USA like many of us on this site.

I will be sending off the K1 package this week and there are still a few unknowns to be cleared,,,,

1) The G325A form ~ I have 1 form filled out with all my information on the form and signed too

2) The Fiance G325A Form - Form will be in her name with all her information and submitted without the original signature as she is overseas.

3) The letter of intent (From my side being the US born citizen) signed and dated will be sent with the package to USCIS

4) Now do I need to submit a letter from my fiance side with the package identical to mine, and swap names around... with exception of a ink signature (Will a PDF Version of her signature work on the letter from her side)

5) I have printed 6-10 pictures

6) Shall I send in the copy of my Fiance J1 Visa? Her SSN Card from her working in the USA...

7) Birth Certificate of myself (USA) and herself (from overseas)

8) Copy of my US Passport with Visa stamped, entry and exit stamps

9) Copy of my divorce decree

10) Copies of my ATT Cell phone bill

11) Copies of the roses sent to her as gifts

12) A money order check for I-129F fees

13) Passport size photos with name marked in pencil on the back of each picture

14) A Copy of the greeting cards sent to her via email and vice versa

My fiance has already been through the clearance with the State Dept when she was in the USA teaching.

[Boiler 46,320]

I am in the final stages of putting together the I-129F package but we're seeking alternate routes to be together faster instead of waiting for another a year for the K-1 to be approved.

[YuAndDan 153]

Everyone,

The intent is for my fiance to move back to the USA not the other way around. I am well established in the USA like many of us on this site.

I will be sending off the K1 package this week and there are still a few unknowns to be cleared,,,,

1) The G325A form ~ I have 1 form filled out with all my information on the form and signed too

2) The Fiance G325A Form - Form will be in her name with all her information and submitted without the original signature as she is overseas.

3) The letter of intent (From my side being the US born citizen) signed and dated will be sent with the package to USCIS

4) Now do I need to submit a letter from my fiance side with the package identical to mine, and swap names around... with exception of a ink signature (Will a PDF Version of her signature work on the letter from her side)

5) I have printed 6-10 pictures

6) Shall I send in the copy of my Fiance J1 Visa? Her SSN Card from her working in the USA...

7) Birth Certificate of myself (USA) and herself (from overseas)

8) Copy of my US Passport with Visa stamped, entry and exit stamps

9) Copy of my divorce decree

10) Copies of my ATT Cell phone bill

11) Copies of the roses sent to her as gifts

12) A money order check for I-129F fees

13) Passport size photos with name marked in pencil on the back of each picture

14) A Copy of the greeting cards sent to her via email and vice versa

My fiance has already been through the clearance with the State Dept when she was in the USA teaching.

2) Her G-325A needs to be signed by her, USCIS has been known to RFE for this. My wife did one and then scanned and sent it to me via Email, this was fine by USCIS

4) Also need a letter of intent from beneficiary, or can be a joint document having both sign it.

7) Foreign Birth Cert not needed in the I-129F petition, it will later be needed for visa interview.

8) Can serve as proof of US citizenship eliminating the need for US birth cert.

12) Personal check may be a little better, you can see if and when cashed.

[milimelo 4,575]

I'd also have fiancee check her J-1 visa. Most Fullbright programs will have the 2-yr home residency requirement tied to it as after all, the US govt pays for it and they want recipients to give back to their own country by applying knowledge and skills gained through studies.

[YuAndDan 153]

I'd also have fiancee check her J-1 visa. Most Fullbright programs will have the 2-yr home residency requirement tied to it as after all, the US govt pays for it and they want recipients to give back to their own country by applying knowledge and skills gained through studies.

This is true, a waiver would be needed, not sure if can get a "No Object" letter from home country or not in this case, I know China will not issue one in J-1 Home Residency cases.

[Rightsreserved 1]

Just found out that the DHL package is being held up for clearance in Ohio and no time frame as to when I shall be recieving it afterwards... I called DHL and they're like it could take upto 30 days for custom clearance... BS....

My fiance had used FEDEX a couple times without any problems the packages were in my hand as promised in 4-5 days.... First time dealing with DHL and I'm fed up as the package been in OHIO since Sunday and still not cleared... An envelope with her pictures for the K1 processing, copy of divorce decree and other documents for the fiance Visa....

[Boiler 46,320]

and the JI HRR?

[Aztec&Taino 144]

I thought the CR-1 (previously known as K3) took much much muchhhh longer than a K1. This is why my fiancee and I opted for the K1 because it was much quicker (regardless of the current delays).

I want to add my $0.02 to this point. One of the reasons why I, too, chose the K1 route is because everything that I read indicated that it was faster than to file for the CR1 visa. So, I chose the route that was going to be faster even though I knew it would be more expensive.

I met a VJ member who filed her I-130 petition for her Dominican husband about one week after I filed my petition for my fiance's visa. Her interview is scheduled for next week. My approved petition just made it to the Santo Domingo consulate and I am waiting for an interview date. This may have been a pure matter of luck (good for her and bad for me), but you can see that in my particular experience and my friend's the quicker route was actually to get married and file the I-130.

Best wishes!