Deported because parents came here Illegally

[B_J 2,752]

I think he should be deported, BTW, along with his wife. But I think it is just too easy for people here to say, oh it is his own fault, he should have left when he was 18 and life would be peaches.

I'm a big DREAM act supporter but I don't mind those who aren't supporters. I just wish more people could be like you and see the human aspect of the issue. No matter what position you take; I can't see how anyone can think it's an easy decision.

[Dakine10 5,452]

So I am a Mexican National.

I do not drive.

I do not speak Spanish.

I do not go to College.

Never had to any situation where I had to prove my identity.

That's one scenario. Like this guy in the story, you find out when you want to apply at college or something.

Sort of like that film with Tom Hanks where the guy was actually brought up on a TV set all his life.

So out of the say 5,000,000 undocumented Mexicans in the US I guess there could be one who fits that profile.

I think I would sell my story to the media and live in luxury.

You live in Colorado and you don't know anyone of Hispanic origin who doesn't speak Spanish? I take it you don't get out much? It's very common.

Would I got USCIS, no idea why. ICE deal with deportations.

OK, you know more about immigration enforcement than the average illegal alien. That probably would help you in this scenario

If I went to ICE what would they do, well nothing unless I had a criminal record, they have bigger fish to fry.

There was a Mexican woman in Denver trying to do that, she wanted to be able to try for COR, camped outside their office, ignored.

So you would not self deport then? Apparently it's easy to do.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/july-13-2009/illegal-aliens-find-little-resistance-when-self-deporting.html

Seriously what would I do if I wanted to stay, find an American Spouse.

If I did not want to stay I would make plans and leave at my convenience.

That's what I would do too probably.

[sachinky 465]

Sorry, but your personal experience doesn't invalidate mine if that is where you are heading.

Never said it did, neither was that my intention. Just provided another perspective to your comment. Like someone else said, teenagers aren't a monolithic population -- people in similar situations often react differently.

[sachinky 465]

18 years old is just plain too early.

Some people would say so. My parents and I didn't think that way, though. I have always been pretty level-headed and mature, responsible and independent, ever since I was a kid. It's just who I am. It's why no one batted an eyelid when I got married at 23 either. And I will reiterate that the younger you are, the easier it is to adjust and assimilate, especially to a completely new, foreign culture. A thirty year old will have a lot more trouble than a nineteen year old will.

I shall now exit this thread and let it veer back on-topic. Peace.

Edited March 12, 2011 by sachinky

[Boiler 45,314]

Mexico is a very different situation, I read that 80% of the world waivers go through CDJ.

There are Lawyers who give money back guarantees on getting a positive result through CDJ.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Never said it did, neither was that my intention. Just provided another perspective to your comment. Like someone else said, teenagers aren't a monolithic population -- people in similar situations often react differently.

But you did.

You said "It's a pet peeve of mine -- people infantalizing teenagers. They aren't, most are grown up at 17-18 years of age. I know I was. I was responding directly to your comment about the fact that you were scared to move to Uni a few states over. "

That was clearly an attempt to invalidate my experience by indicating that I am in the minority - solely based on your own.

[Darnell 8,478]

He left Kansas City Feb. 5th on a bus back to Mexico.. Haven't heard or read anymore stories concerning Rigoberto.....

Yay.. GTFO. Seriously.

[Fandango 1,439]

But you did.

You said "It's a pet peeve of mine -- people infantalizing teenagers. They aren't, most are grown up at 17-18 years of age. I know I was. I was responding directly to your comment about the fact that you were scared to move to Uni a few states over. "

That was clearly an attempt to invalidate my experience by indicating that I am in the minority - solely based on your own.

You gave your experience, she gave hers. Neither invalidates the other; it's all just perspective.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You gave your experience, she gave hers. Neither invalidates the other; it's all just perspective.

Very true, but unfortunately she tried to use her experience in such a manner as to invalidate mine. It drips from her posts.

Edited March 14, 2011 by Sousuke

[Zero Sum 305]

The word choice (verbiage) kind of implies that was the intent. Sometimes I guess it can happen subconsciously, which is why it might be a good idea to think one's responses before posting them.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I assume the guy in the story was told by his parents at some point that he was illegal. Lets say he was told at 18 years old and he decided to stay in the US and proceed as normal and now he got caught.

No need to assume, according to one of the articles linked to he was made aware of his situation at 17 when he wanted to apply for college.

He made a conscious choice and now he is suffering the consequences of that choice.

[B_J 2,752]

No need to assume, according to one of the articles linked to he was made aware of his situation at 17 when he wanted to apply for college.

He made a conscious choice and now he is suffering the consequences of that choice.

Sort of.

He lived the vast majority of his life in this country. That wasn't his choice. All he did was live his life. Then when he turned a certain age he is expected to make a choice to leave the country he has known as home. Just imagine being in that position.

[Boiler 45,314]

He lived the vast majority of his life in this country.

True

That wasn't his choice.

You could say that until he left home. So probably about half that time. And the first half, well it has been said before Children do suffer from the consequences of their Parents poor choices, and always will.

All he did was live his life.

So?

Then when he turned a certain age he is expected to make a choice to leave the country he has known as home. Just imagine being in that position.

There is no set age when he has to make that choice, he was here illegally from day one.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Sort of.

He lived the vast majority of his life in this country. That wasn't his choice. All he did was live his life. Then when he turned a certain age he is expected to make a choice to leave the country he has known as home. Just imagine being in that position.

There is no "Sort of" about it.

When he became aware of the legality of his situation he made a choice to do nothing about it and continue living his life as if he wasn't in the situation his parents put him in.

HE MADE THAT CONSCIOUS CHOICE.

I don't have to imagine being in that position.

I was in a situation were I found out that something I was doing was illegal. Nobody who knew what I was doing knew it was illegal for me to do it without getting specific permission (not everyone needs that specific permission).

I had a choice, continue as I had been and figure that I'll never get caught so things are okay or notify those who need to give me specific permission that I'm someone who needs that permission so now I'll have an extra hoop to jump through every time I do it but I know that I'm doing it the legal way.

I chose a little bit of embarrassment & inconvenience to prevent the really nasty punishment I was exposing myself to if I didn't choose to do it the legal way.

I don't feel sorry for him or his wife. They both knew they were here illegally and they chose to roll the dice so they have no leeway to cry foul when it came up snake-eyes.

Until he made his choice he was a victim of his parents.

Now his kids are a victim of him & his wife.

Why am I, the US Citizen or Legal Immigrant, expected to fix their bad choices?

Edited March 14, 2011 by Bob 4 Anna

[rika60607 215]

Who is having such expectations of you????

What do you mean?..

Why am I, the US Citizen or Legal Immigrant, expected to fix their bad choices?