Deported because parents came here Illegally

[Boiler 45,467]

If it was not for them having children in the US neither would likely have the opportunity of anchoring in the US.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

Here is where I branch off a bit from most of the posters in this thread. I do support reforming immigration policy and US citizenship, where citizenship requires at least one parent to be a USC.

I'm all for fixing the way the 14th amendment has been butchered by lawyers.

I would go as far as child with one parent who is LPR or USC having claim to Citizenship.

I also think that E-Verify should be a requirement for all employment and Means Tested Benefits.

[Fandango 1,439]

Here is where I branch off a bit from most of the posters in this thread. I do support reforming immigration policy and US citizenship, where citizenship requires at least one parent to be a USC.

I agree.

[Dakine10 5,452]

Here is where I branch off a bit from most of the posters in this thread. I do support reforming immigration policy and US citizenship, where citizenship requires at least one parent to be a USC.

I think many people actually support this position. I generally do, although I do think jus soli should still be used in any case where the child would otherwise be left stateless. For example if two people from different countries are here legally on student or work visa's or are LPR's, and have a child out of wedlock. It's possible in that scenario to have a child born who would not be eligible for citizenship anywhere.

[Zero Sum 305]

It can be.

No suggestion that it was in this case, seems like there were other criminal issues however.

It can be or it can't be- you're arguing that a illegal status is a criminal offense or that it may be associated with actual criminal offenses? See the difference? The act itself of illegal status is a civil offense, not a criminal one. Being something and being an additive to something that is are two different things. Minutiae that matter.

[Boiler 45,467]

The act itself isn't criminal, which is what I said. Illegals incarcerated in the US are put behind bars for criminal offenses, not for their status.

If you get deported and then re enter that is a criminal situation.

[Zero Sum 305]

No argument on that.

[The_Dude 1,142]

We need better citizens, not easily fooled into supporting causes that do not favor them, that's what we need. But that's another topic!

As for what Canadians are doing, its their country. I have heard many go there on visas, learn English or French or both, have a good time, and then go back home. And many of those do it independent of their particular background. Many more who have stayed, do so and become contributing Canadian citizens.

Its tough times economically. And this is when the more intolerant sectors of society try to scapegoat immigrants en masse.

Nice little attempt at an insult there. No, i'm not xenophobic as you passive aggressively suggest, I just find our immigration standards a bit lax and absurd. I suggested looking at how Canada is revisiting their policiy as an example of this, but you don't seem to have read that.

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Toronto is full of third world engineering PhD's who are driving taxis. Their points-based policy sounds great but if the local economy has no need for that many engineers/scientists, what's the point?

[The_Dude 1,142]

Toronto is full of third world engineering PhD's who are driving taxis. Their points-based policy sounds great but if the local economy has no need for that many engineers/scientists, what's the point?

So you've been reading Paul's research of Toronto? The city also has loads of people who are seeking political asylum, many of whom have been rejected by the U.S. for the same asylum. The U.S. could use highly skilled workers, and immigration policy should reflect that. I think some of family based immigration should be reexamined. The financial metrics used are far too liberal.

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So you've been reading Paul's research of Toronto?

No. My wife has a lot of family in GTA so what I'm saying is what I hear from them. I have no studies to back it up.

The U.S. could use highly skilled workers, and immigration policy should reflect that.

I'm not sure I agree. We have plenty of highly skilled workers above 50 who have been pushed out of the workforce.

The financial metrics used are far too liberal.

This I agree with. The affidavit of support requirements are an absolute joke. And being able to use cosponsors means Little Billy who lives in his mom's basement and doesn't have a job can guilt trip mommy into cosponsoring his 'girlfriend' (who probably doesn't have any marketable skills whatsoever) on a K1. And then you have the Americans who live in trailers and sponsor women from overseas. They should be required to make a lot more. Immigration is a privilege, not a right.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

This I agree with. The affidavit of support requirements are an absolute joke. And being able to use cosponsors means Little Billy who lives in his mom's basement and doesn't have a job can guilt trip mommy into cosponsoring his 'girlfriend' (who probably doesn't have any marketable skills whatsoever) on a K1. And then you have the Americans who live in trailers and sponsor women from overseas. They should be required to make a lot more. Immigration is a privilege, not a right.

Here's another VJ'er who agrees the AOS system needs to be reworked.

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Here's another VJ'er who agrees the AOS system needs to be reworked.

My consulate asked for an affidavit of support and financial records with the K1 application, so I had to provide that at that point in the 'journey' and not just at AOS. IMO all consulates should require it and the requirements should be very stringent. If you're broke and wanna get married, find someone local.

[Zero Sum 305]

Nice little attempt at an insult there. No, i'm not xenophobic as you passive aggressively suggest, I just find our immigration standards a bit lax and absurd. I suggested looking at how Canada is revisiting their policiy as an example of this, but you don't seem to have read that.

I didn't suggest anything about you. Don't feel so identified.

I am very much in favor of proper enforcement at the border.

Here's another VJ'er who agrees the AOS system needs to be reworked.

And a third. We need to be much more proactive about these things.

[The_Dude 1,142]

No. My wife has a lot of family in GTA so what I'm saying is what I hear from them. I have no studies to back it up.

So yes, you have been subsribing to Paul's research, also known as anecdotal evidence.

This I agree with. The affidavit of support requirements are an absolute joke. And being able to use cosponsors means Little Billy who lives in his mom's basement and doesn't have a job can guilt trip mommy into cosponsoring his 'girlfriend' (who probably doesn't have any marketable skills whatsoever) on a K1. And then you have the Americans who live in trailers and sponsor women from overseas. They should be required to make a lot more. Immigration is a privilege, not a right.

Co-sponsorhip should be eliminated, but only if they couple that with a cost of living adjusted financial standard and allow foreign assets and income to be used to meet that standard.