Hi all... starting my journey

[Texas Proud 0]

It's the obvious winner for North too..... now what about South???

South is Hawaii...

[Chuckles 0]

What is the northern most state in the lower 48?

[Texas Proud 0]

What is the northern most state in the lower 48?

Without looking... Maine...

[PurrSuede 0]

What is the northern most state in the lower 48?

Without looking... Maine...

I'll go with Minnesota....

-- Dan

[akdiver 3]

In other words, the second-most northern state.

I hate these kinds of questions that use most whatever, and then qualify with "lower 48", or "except Alaska and Hawaii". They should just say second-most whatever fact they are interested in.

Cheers!

AKDiver

[Chuckles 0]

In other words, the second-most northern state.

I hate these kinds of questions that use most whatever, and then qualify with "lower 48", or "except Alaska and Hawaii". They should just say second-most whatever fact they are interested in.

Cheers!

AKDiver

Well, thats why it is called trivia. It is trivial knowledge that means jack. Its impractical as hell. Much like calling Alaska the 'eastern most' state. Yes, based on longitude it is, but direction is purely relative to where you are, no matter what old mariners decided 100's of years ago when they placed Grenich as the 'center of the world'. It was given as a reference point, not meant to be relative. You aren't going to tell me you are going to travel east to the Rat islands from Anchorage?

Most people do not know that Minnesota extends north of the 49th parallel. Just a brain teaser.

[akdiver 3]

Well, thats why it is called trivia. It is trivial knowledge that means jack. Its impractical as hell. Much like calling Alaska the 'eastern most' state. Yes, based on longitude it is, but direction is purely relative to where you are, no matter what old mariners decided 100's of years ago when they placed Grenich as the 'center of the world'. It was given as a reference point, not meant to be relative. You aren't going to tell me you are going to travel east to the Rat islands from Anchorage?

Well, by that standard, there is no "easternmost", as no matter where you are, you can always go east, relative to where you are. Same for "westernmost". You can always just keep going and going and going. Therefore, by that standard, every point on earth is both east and west of every other point (exceptions can be applied at the poles, depending on the logic you choose), and therefore it's meaningless to say that "this point is east of that point", as it's just as equally "west of that point". Seems rather ridiculous to me - probably why "they" set up a point of reference, eh? All hail the Prime Meridian (:

Cheers!

AKDiver

[slim 1,525]

I like "GMT" also!

edited: That's "Zulu" for all you military-types out there!

further edited: Maybe someday we'll all go to using GMT for important times.... hell, we may as well use the metric system while we're at it!!!

Edited September 27, 2006 by slim

[CarolineM 0]

Wow...only two K1's per lifetime now...

if only it were easier for ya'll to use a fiance visa as a dating mechanism....

[Chuckles 0]

Wow...only two K1's per lifetime now...

if only it were easier for ya'll to use a fiance visa as a dating mechanism....

Do you really believe everyone in here is using a K1 as a 'dating mechanism' ?

[CarolineM 0]

No but when people caution others ... when they are on their way to meet the girls waiting for them...that they can ONLY get 2 k1's...sounds fishy.

Keep in mind that now, thanks to something called IMBRA, there's a limitation on the number of K-1's you can file in a lifetime, and that limit is TWO or one within TWO years without a waiver of these requirements.

So if you K-1 with this woman, and it doesn't work out, you will either need to wait two years to try another K-1 (if you are using the K-1 as a "trial") or apply for a waiver.

The IMBRA waiver is a very new thing, so no one knows how many of these can be or will be granted. If you apply for the waiver on the basis of "my K-1 was a trial marriage, but we didn't work out so I sent her back home to Russia", I'd bet your waiver would be declined.

Think LONG and HARD before you K-1 someone just on the basis of a "trial before marriage". Another possibility if you don't want to go to Russia, is to meet her in a 3rd country that she can travel to on her Russian passport.

Just an idea you might want to look into. But the K-1 is really not a "try before you buy" kind of Visa, so keep that in mind as well.

This sounds like he is talking someone out of using a K1 as a dating mechanism...

sorry if i read it wrong

[slim 1,525]

Wow...only two K1's per lifetime now...

if only it were easier for ya'll to use a fiance visa as a dating mechanism....

That would be nice!

It sure is expensive going to-and-from Russia to meet girls. It sucks that I have to narrow the 34 women that I've "added to cart" on my website down to just two... and in a whole lifetime!

Maybe there would be an easier way.... like if they were ALLOWED to come visit me without having to get a fiancee visa. Or, maybe if I was ALLOWED to visit them without getting a tourist visa. Or maybe if our countries hadn't been INVOLVED IN A COLD WAR FOR 45 YEARS!!!!!

OR MAYBE IF THEY WERE FROM AUSTRALIA!!!!!!

Walk a mile in our shoes before you complain about the fit/feel of them.

[CarolineM 0]

Well....not everyone goes out LOOKING for Australian men like some do Russian women.

There's no

www.aussiemen.com website.

want to add - I'm not talking about you necessarily....but can you deny that there are men on this board that go out SPECIFICALLY in search of Eastern European women??

[akdiver 3]

but can you deny that there are men on this board that go out SPECIFICALLY in search of Eastern European women??

Maybe they're just specifically AVOIDING American women....

Cheers!

AKDiver

[Chuckles 0]

Oh man... there really is an aussiemen.com website...