K1's at VSC are at a stand still

[Milushka 22]

My original point was that processing times change often. Things are slow at VSC and fast at CSC, then things pick up at VSC and slow down at CSC. This is the way it always has been and always will be.

Its not like CSC is faster and VSC slower. The whole point that VSC almost stopped working on i-129f pettions from early November onwards, causing major backlog. 5 months mark - is nowhere a limit for now. Uncertainty, uncertainty, ocean of uncertainty....

[rsn 135]

Its not like CSC is faster and VSC slower. The whole point that VSC almost stopped working on i-129f pettions from early November onwards, causing major backlog. 5 months mark - is nowhere a limit for now. Uncertainty, uncertainty, ocean of uncertainty....

Well, in the past, when a service center is dreadfully backlogged, cases are transferred elsewhere to lighten the load and speed things up. So, that's a possibility if things get out of hand.

[dogspot 90]

But Vermont has never been this bad, ever. Vermont usually runs about 2 months, sometimes 3 or 4. But 7? Never, until now.

This is not true. Back in 2007-2008 there was a period where many petitions were taking 6-8 months out of Vermont and there was much of the same noise coming from petitioners as now. This is nothing new. Here is an example of a thread from back in 2008. http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/121364-passing-180-days-since-noa1/page__p__1745229__hl__eight+months+__fromsearch__1#entry1745229 There are many others there in the archive if you care to look.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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Moderator hat off . .

To add another perspective to the 2004 year for filing for K-1 . .the year before in 2003, we filed for a K-1 and it took over 6 months to get the NO2. We were eventually approved after 194 days. Those who filed 2 months before I did seemed to get approved in about 2 to 3 months. Some who filed after I did waited even longer than I did. This too was under Mr. Bush's presidency.

There is an ebb and flow in the processing of paperwork. It has been longer in the past as well as shorter. It has nothing to do with who is in the Presidential office and everything to do with the USCIS workloads at that particular time of year. Things traditionally seem to start going faster about now with the K-1 visas.

My anticipated processing time when I filed was listed at 90 days. Then, the estimated processing time changed to 120 days, and when we reached 120 days, it changed to 180 days. I noticed the following year they even stopped providing an estimated processing time. Generally, I think you can expect an NOA 2 sometime between 2 months to 7 months - and that is all considered to be within normal processing times - depending on the time of year.

Edited February 9, 2011 by Kathryn41

[Gocka 17]

Thank you for that historical perspective you saved me alot of time haha

Even with out a bunch of proof its common sense people do you really think of all the pressing issues going on in the world everyday that the presidents worry about how long it takes for our K1 visas to get approuved? I dont consider myself nor my situation that important that I expect the president to "make things better" because I have much bigger problems in my life that id like the goverment to work on first, problems that arent getting solved. This problem is just matter of waiting a little longer.

Why do people seem to thing that presidents micromanage the country? I dont support Obama at all but I am also not an idiot and I know he cant just lift a pen and change what ever he wants nor can any other president or member of congress. The slow downs are just a matter of a large work load and not enough funding because the same people who hate Obama and want USCIS to pump these out in 2 months are the same people who want to pay little to no tax but want everything done for free. Nothing in life is free people, and none of us are entitled to anyhing. You want it in 2 months? Lets pay $4500 instead of $450 and they can hire a 10x bigger staff and everyhting is fine and dandy then.

I do however agree about the TPS things, but only if the volume it produced is significant, which I am skeptical that it was. Plus ITS OVER NOW.

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Moderator hat off . .

To add another perspective to the 2004 year for filing for K-1 . .the year before in 2003, we filed for a K-1 and it took over 6 months to get the NO2. We were eventually approved after 194 days. Those who filed 2 months before I did seemed to get approved in about 2 to 3 months. Some who filed after I did waited even longer than I did. This too was under Mr. Bush's presidency.

There is an ebb and flow in the processing of paperwork. It has been longer in the past as well as shorter. It has nothing to do with who is in the Presidential office and everything to do with the USCIS workloads at that particular time of year. Things traditionally seem to start going faster about now with the K-1 visas.

My anticipated processing time when I filed was listed at 90 days. Then, the estimated processing time changed to 120 days, and when we reached 120 days, it changed to 180 days. I noticed the following year they even stopped providing an estimated processing time. Generally, I think you can expect an NOA 2 sometime between 2 months to 7 months - and that is all considered to be within normal processing times - depending on the time of year.

[Al422 221]

Would I pay $4500.00 instead of $450.00 to get my NOA2 in 30 days instead of the intolerable 7 to 8 months they are shoving down my throat? Hell ya, and in a heartbeat and without doubt or hesitation of any kind!

This is not a vacation or a big screen TV or new living room furniture we are talking about. This is my life, and more importantly, the life of my beloved fiance, both of which are being seriously screwed up right now by an uncaring,. unfeeling, and totally incompetent bureaucracy. I already have over $12,000.00 invested in this relationship, and I am looking at another $6,000.00 before it is all said and done. Against that backdrop, another $4.000.00 to get it done right instead of the totally aborted way it is being done now would be money well spent.

As Vice President of my company, I am constantly bidding on jobs in a highly competitive environment, and I can see that the lowest bidder does not always get the job. Customers have other considerations, many of which are more important than the lowest price. They want high quality, compliance with specifications, timely delivery, and intelligent responses to their inquiries. Many customers who went elsewhere in search of the lowest price learned the hard way that price is not everything and came back to us when they realized that a higher price packaged with better service is actually cheaper in the long run.

Of course, USCIS has no competition and therefore does not have to worry about losing business despite their despicable service, and I use the term "service" loosely. But our government is not supposed to need competition to deliver the quality service we are entitled to, as the government of Egypt is now finding out the hard way. Obama's wake up call should have come this last November when his party got pummeled into the ground, but to use his own words from his 2008 campaign, "John McCain doesn't get it. You get it. i get it. But John McCain doesn't get it". Remember those words? Who doesn't get it now, Mr. President?

[jrmejia 31]

Generally, I think you can expect an NOA 2 sometime between 2 months to 7 months - and that is all considered to be within normal processing times - depending on the time of year.

I think you are right. Our is approaching 7 months. Hopefully, we will hear something by then!. Nice post.

[Al422 221]

During the four and a half months I have been on this journey through hell, I keep hearing about ebb and flow. But all I see is ebb. First there was a four month ebb when Vermont processed fewer petitions than I have fingers, then there was a three day microburst of speed. and then back to the same old Vermont, slower than a drunken turtle with arthritis.

So when is the flow supposed to start?

[Gocka 17]

I too would glady pay as much as i have to speed it up as much as possible but the fact remains that its about money, thats what its always about in this country MONEY. ALso its not about competition, USCIS does not make a profit haha, how many governemnt funded institutions make a profit on anyhting? So in the end if you either need to pay alot more taxes or get charged alot more for services. I do agree how ever that it can probably be run better then it is. All governemnt institutions run like slob of jello. Alot of this process can be autimated, computers can sift through most of these petitions and only ones that pick up red flags should be reviewed by people.

I truly feel that no one is to blame but the people in this country, we have become a country of entitled, half asz working, lazy, arogent, fools. All americans think they deserve everyhing because they are americans and our soil just must be better then others peoples. We half asz everyhing as a country. We have a little bit of everyhing but nothing perfect. People dont want to work hard anymore. We refuse to look around the world for things people are doing better then us because "we are always the best" right? Not to mention we are totally ripped apart as a nation by a political system that is turning everyone agianst eachother.

Look at this thread, i starts off as a common problem, how we want our petitions approuved faster. Then before you know it we are not on common ground anymore and we are arguing behind party lines and no longer have the ame goal even though we started with it. Those in places of hire power have figured it out, just like when the romans figured out the power of the colloseum. All you have to do is get people pissed off enoigh at eachother and entertained enough to not pay attention to those really accountable and then you can do what ever you want. The country is being raped an pilleged by both sides while the people crusify eacother. Thier is nothing sadder then 2 people who are both poor as dirt arguing to death about thier opppisite parties (whom are both loaded) and in the end hate eachtoher and blame eachtoher rahter then those who matter.

Would I pay $4500.00 instead of $450.00 to get my NOA2 in 30 days instead of the intolerable 7 to 8 months they are shoving down my throat? Hell ya, and in a heartbeat and without doubt or hesitation of any kind!

This is not a vacation or a big screen TV or new living room furniture we are talking about. This is my life, and more importantly, the life of my beloved fiance, both of which are being seriously screwed up right now by an uncaring,. unfeeling, and totally incompetent bureaucracy. I already have over $12,000.00 invested in this relationship, and I am looking at another $6,000.00 before it is all said and done. Against that backdrop, another $4.000.00 to get it done right instead of the totally aborted way it is being done now would be money well spent.

As Vice President of my company, I am constantly bidding on jobs in a highly competitive environment, and I can see that the lowest bidder does not always get the job. Customers have other considerations, many of which are more important than the lowest price. They want high quality, compliance with specifications, timely delivery, and intelligent responses to their inquiries. Many customers who went elsewhere in search of the lowest price learned the hard way that price is not everything and came back to us when they realized that a higher price packaged with better service is actually cheaper in the long run.

Of course, USCIS has no competition and therefore does not have to worry about losing business despite their despicable service, and I use the term "service" loosely. But our government is not supposed to need competition to deliver the quality service we are entitled to, as the government of Egypt is now finding out the hard way. Obama's wake up call should have come this last November when his party got pummeled into the ground, but to use his own words from his 2008 campaign, "John McCain doesn't get it. You get it. i get it. But John McCain doesn't get it". Remember those words? Who doesn't get it now, Mr. President?

[Jun&Scheillo 6]

If the USCSI has a problem, Its NOT $$$ I still don't understand what the 450 bucks for. Its not for the visa, I know that. Is it for processing the petition that takes forever?

I'am more interested in getting a refund. Forget about giving them more $$$.

[Gocka 17]

If the USCSI has a problem, Its NOT $$$ I still don't understand what the 450 bucks for. Its not for the visa, I know that. Is it for processing the petition that takes forever?

I'am more interested in getting a refund. Forget about giving them more $$$.

What do you mean you dont know what the money is for haha? They have employees, bills, you know stuff to pay to keep running. Like I said if you want them to have more staff then you need to pay bigger fees so they can higher more staff or pay more taxes, which no one wants to do (not even me). But where does the money go, to everything. Think about 1 adjucator there, probably makes about 30-40k a year, divded by $450 = 67 to 89 applicants, for 1 employee. Can they do better with the money they already have oh yeah, they definily can. I have no doubt that 3-4 months can be achieved with its current staff and funding. Haha but thier goverment employees you know how it is. Think.... DMV..

[Al422 221]

For $455.00 you get 15 minutes of an adjudicator's time. That adjudicator, at 4 petitions an hour, is taking in $1,820.00 per hour. The fanciest Wall Street law firms don't get half that much money, yet they make tons of profit and deliver excellent service in an opulent setting. And I am not just talking off the top of my head because my company has used Wall Street lawyers, and I have been in their offices conducting business. One even had a uniformed maid serve us coffee in a silver tea service.

And all this for less than half the price of USCIS adjudicators.

So who is kidding who?

Edited February 9, 2011 by Al422

[Penny Lane 8,159]

It's not $455. And it's not like the payment goes into the adjudicator's pocket. You seem to be kidding yourself.

[dogspot 90]

Would I pay $4500.00 instead of $450.00 to get my NOA2 in 30 days instead of the intolerable 7 to 8 months they are shoving down my throat? Hell ya, and in a heartbeat and without doubt or hesitation of any kind!

Me too.

[Al422 221]

It's not $455. And it's not like the payment goes into the adjudicator's pocket. You seem to be kidding yourself.

Yes, I know it got lowered AFTER I filed.

And I also know it is not going into the adjudicator's pocket, just like the Wall Street money does not go into the individual attorney's pocket. It goes to the firm, who pays Wall Street rent out of it, their secretaries, all the fancy trappings, electric, heat, etc., and they still have enough left to pay the attorneys $200,000 a year and up and still make a really huge profit.

On HALF of the money we pay USCIS.

How do they do it?

Competence perhaps?