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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Once I get to the states via CR-1 and have my green card in hand, do ROC, naturalize... will I be carrying two passports?

It's my understanding that yes, I'll be a DC of Canada and the U.S., but what I've read is like: To get into Canada I use my American passport, and to get back to the U.S. I use my American one? It makes sense, but I'd just like to confirm/deny that.

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USCIS

Jul 15/11 - Sent I-130 Package from Honolulu

Jul 18/11 - I-130 package received & signed for in Chicago
Jul 19/11 - Priority Date
Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
Jul 29/11 - Received I-797C hard copy
Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


NVC

Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

ROC

Mar 25/14 - ROC sent to CSC

Mar 28/14 - Package delivered to CSC

Apr 1/14 - Check cashed

Apr 3/14 - Received NOA1, Receipt Date: 3/28

Jun 15/14 - Move to San Diego

Jun 23/14 - RFE / Package sent: Aug 6, ETA Aug 8

Aug 22/14 - New Card in Production

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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You do NOT have to have two passports. You MAY have two passports. When you go back to canada, you can use or CDN oR USA passport! BUT when you come back to the USA--you have to use the USA passport!

You are still a Canadian Citizen--your just NOT a Canadian Resident (until you decide to move back to Canada later down the road)

Quite simply--Canada sees you as a Canadian citizen and a USA citizen.......... BUT good old USA sees you ONLY as a USA citizen

Some do not bother renewing their Cdn passport because of the extra expense. I still have mine and will continue to do so.

As well--when you do naturalize to become a USA citizen, you get a certificate--this Certificate DOES NOT act as a passport and CAN NOT use it to gain entry into the USA.

To loose your CDN Citizenship--one actually has t file paperwork with ther govt of canada and it costs $$$--so even though when you naturalize and in the oath you say you denounce other citizenships, it truly doesn't mean anything! Best of luck

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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You do NOT have to have two passports. You MAY have two passports. When you go back to canada, you can use or CDN oR USA passport! BUT when you come back to the USA--you have to use the USA passport!

You are still a Canadian Citizen--your just NOT a Canadian Resident (until you decide to move back to Canada later down the road)

Quite simply--Canada sees you as a Canadian citizen and a USA citizen.......... BUT good old USA sees you ONLY as a USA citizen

Some do not bother renewing their Cdn passport because of the extra expense. I still have mine and will continue to do so.

As well--when you do naturalize to become a USA citizen, you get a certificate--this Certificate DOES NOT act as a passport and CAN NOT use it to gain entry into the USA.

To loose your CDN Citizenship--one actually has t file paperwork with ther govt of canada and it costs $$$--so even though when you naturalize and in the oath you say you denounce other citizenships, it truly doesn't mean anything! Best of luck

Perfect, thank you!

I think no matter what I would keep renewing my Canadian passport. Never know what could happen in the future... also, you know, sentiment :lol:

USCIS

Jul 15/11 - Sent I-130 Package from Honolulu

Jul 18/11 - I-130 package received & signed for in Chicago
Jul 19/11 - Priority Date
Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
Jul 29/11 - Received I-797C hard copy
Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


NVC

Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

ROC

Mar 25/14 - ROC sent to CSC

Mar 28/14 - Package delivered to CSC

Apr 1/14 - Check cashed

Apr 3/14 - Received NOA1, Receipt Date: 3/28

Jun 15/14 - Move to San Diego

Jun 23/14 - RFE / Package sent: Aug 6, ETA Aug 8

Aug 22/14 - New Card in Production

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Perfect, thank you!

I think no matter what I would keep renewing my Canadian passport. Never know what could happen in the future... also, you know, sentiment :lol:

They have made it easier to renew ur passport from abroad--that is if you dont let it expire!! Some countries its probably better to use ur cdn passport for entry--ie if u wanna goto cuba,lol

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Canada and USA are ally, so why bother using 2 passports? You can use US passport to go to ALLIED countries in europe without visa up to 3 months...

Americans need visas for some certain countrys while Canadians do not. Among other things such as Canadians are treated better in parts of Europe than Americans are. Iv seen this with my own eyes as I traveled there.

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Your I-129f was approved in 5 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

I am a Citizen of the United States of America. 04/16/13

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thanks for the insight guys. I'm definitely planning on keeping some of Canadian heritage alive :lol:

Can I apply for a U.S. passport once I have my green card, or do I wait for naturalization? Because my spouse is in the U.S. Military there's no amount of days I need to stay in the U.S. to qualify (from what I read off gov't websites - I forget which at the moment) so I would like the ability to travel asap once I'm there (grandparents getting old, and an aunt was recently diagnosed with cancer and lupus :( )

USCIS

Jul 15/11 - Sent I-130 Package from Honolulu

Jul 18/11 - I-130 package received & signed for in Chicago
Jul 19/11 - Priority Date
Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
Jul 29/11 - Received I-797C hard copy
Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


NVC

Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

ROC

Mar 25/14 - ROC sent to CSC

Mar 28/14 - Package delivered to CSC

Apr 1/14 - Check cashed

Apr 3/14 - Received NOA1, Receipt Date: 3/28

Jun 15/14 - Move to San Diego

Jun 23/14 - RFE / Package sent: Aug 6, ETA Aug 8

Aug 22/14 - New Card in Production

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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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you can't get a US passport until you become a US citizen

you should be able to travel before that though using your Canadian passport and/or your green card..

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thanks for the insight guys. I'm definitely planning on keeping some of Canadian heritage alive :lol:

Can I apply for a U.S. passport once I have my green card, or do I wait for naturalization? Because my spouse is in the U.S. Military there's no amount of days I need to stay in the U.S. to qualify (from what I read off gov't websites - I forget which at the moment) so I would like the ability to travel asap once I'm there (grandparents getting old, and an aunt was recently diagnosed with cancer and lupus :( )

have to be a USA citizen to get a USA passport. Yiou can travel on ur greencard---and if ur Military spouse gets posted abroad its counts as if ur in the USA. Not exactly how that works--but it has happened to many

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yeah I just checked the naturalization guide, and normally I would need: 3 years of continuous residence with no trips outside the U.S. for longer than 6 months/physical presence 18 mos, plus the other standard requirements. Unless he was being deployed abroad for 1+ years, and I was able to join him.. then things would change. He'll likely be going to Japan in the next few years, but I have no clue if I'd be able to tag along.

USCIS

Jul 15/11 - Sent I-130 Package from Honolulu

Jul 18/11 - I-130 package received & signed for in Chicago
Jul 19/11 - Priority Date
Jul 21/11 - NOA1/USCIS Acceptance Confirmation received
Jul 29/11 - Received I-797C hard copy
Aug 4/11 - Touched
Feb 16/12 - NOA2 Approval (212 days since Priority Date)


NVC

Feb 28/12 - NVC Case Number, BIN & IIN Assigned, Optin E-mail for EP Sent

Mar 2/12 - DS-261 Submitted
Mar 5/12 - Electronic Processing Opt-in Accepted, AOS Invoiced & Paid
Mar 7/12 - NVC receive IV electronic package, AOS shows "Paid", AOS Package Sent
Mar 9/12 - IV Bill Invoiced & Paid
Mar 12/12 - AOS fee shows as "Not Paid - Rejected": Human error. AOS re-paid.
Mar 13/12 - IV is "Paid." Will have to be re-paid post imminent "Rejected" status. NVC e-mail "Checklist Cover Letter" asking for my $$$
Mar 14/12 - IV is "Rejected - Not Paid", Re-paid, AOS is "Paid"
Mar 16/12 - IV is "Paid", DS-260 submitted & Package sent
Mar 19/12 - IV Package Received
Mar 20/12 - Case Complete E-mail Received (21 days at NVC)


Final Steps

Apr 10/12 - Interview date assigned: May 9 @ 8:30AM

May 1/12 - Medical Date
May 9/12 - Interview result: Approved!
Jun 22/12 - POE
Jul 23/12 - SSN assigned
Aug 10/12 - Green card in hand

ROC

Mar 25/14 - ROC sent to CSC

Mar 28/14 - Package delivered to CSC

Apr 1/14 - Check cashed

Apr 3/14 - Received NOA1, Receipt Date: 3/28

Jun 15/14 - Move to San Diego

Jun 23/14 - RFE / Package sent: Aug 6, ETA Aug 8

Aug 22/14 - New Card in Production

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Yeah I just checked the naturalization guide, and normally I would need: 3 years of continuous residence with no trips outside the U.S. for longer than 6 months/physical presence 18 mos, plus the other standard requirements. Unless he was being deployed abroad for 1+ years, and I was able to join him.. then things would change. He'll likely be going to Japan in the next few years, but I have no clue if I'd be able to tag along.

you should be able to if he is posted there

Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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If he is posted for 2 years to Japan he will get orders for the family to move with him for the 2 years.

US base in a different country = US soil. But you have to live ON the base.

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Your I-129f was approved in 5 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

I am a Citizen of the United States of America. 04/16/13

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