Is Abortion Morally Equivalent to Murdering Someone?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Says Mr. Small Government.

Fail

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Simpson would you trade a single payer system for the outlawing of abortion?

[^_^ 5,021]

Fail

I'm sorry, are you saying you're a socialist?

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

Your ethics are determined by advances in science?

The "survivability" date seems to be receding with each new decade.

But by posting that picture aren't you just resorting to argumentum ad misericordiam? It LOOKS like a human being, ergo it must be. That's what you are proffering as argument. It IS NOT a fully functioning human being. IT is still developing. Brain Dead is considered dead, so if an entity can't think does that mean that it's alive? Before you contradict me by pointing out the mental acuity of some of the posters on VJ, let me remind you that brain dead individuals were capable of thought as we define it. Ethics? Let's not discuss things through a proleptic lens. One's complexion determined the ability to participate in the democratic process, not so long ago. I won't even discuss biomedical ethics, informed consent anyone? Whether or not you consider life beginning at conception, is not the point. Trying to use faulty logic to forward your argument is.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Simpson would you trade a single payer system for the outlawing of abortion?

No I wouldnt.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

I'm sorry, are you saying you're a socialist?

I think he is. I'm waiting to see his plans for the huge orphanages that will need to be built to take in all the unwanted children born to mothers who, not wanting to have had a child in the first place, were forced to carry the children to term anyway. And in order to make sure that the women don't, oh, go abroad and get an abortion or take matters into their own hands, any woman not expressing the desire to have a child they are carrying will need to live in a US version of a Magdalene asylum , where they will be kept under close supervision and made to do worthwhile labour until such time as the child is born.

But of course, perhaps private industry wants to step in and build and run these facilities, perhaps charge the women for their stay, and the government for the orphanages. It could just work!

[_Simpson_ 250]

I'm sorry, are you saying you're a socialist?

No

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Digesting your posts give most people violent diarrhea.

well quit eating them then.

[Danno 1,228]

Says Mr. Small Government.

Protecting LIFE ... is the role of even the smallest concept of government.

[_Simpson_ 250]

I think he is. I'm waiting to see his plans for the huge orphanages that will need to be built to take in all the unwanted children born to mothers who, not wanting to have had a child in the first place, were forced to carry the children to term anyway. And in order to make sure that the women don't, oh, go abroad and get an abortion or take matters into their own hands, any woman not expressing the desire to have a child they are carrying will need to live in a US version of a Magdalene asylum , where they will be kept under close supervision and made to do worthwhile labour until such time as the child is born.

But of course, perhaps private industry wants to step in and build and run these facilities, perhaps charge the women for their stay, and the government for the orphanages. It could just work!

You do know that there is no shortage of people who are looking to adopt newborns right?

Protecting LIFE ... is the role of even the smallest concept of government.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

You do know that there is no shortage of people who are looking to adopt newborns right?

Sure, if you're talking about white newborns from bourgeois backgrounds, with no birth defects.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I am not ready to advocate forced abortion, but, are there not too many humans on the planet already?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Sure, if you're talking about white newborns from bourgeois backgrounds, with no birth defects.

Simply not true.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I am not ready to advocate forced abortion, but, are there not too many humans on the planet already?

There are, especially when you consider the entire population is propped up on a finite resource that has peaked.

But your looking at the wrong end of the cycle. Think soylent green.

Edited February 5, 2011 by Sousuke

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

Simply not true.

So you're saying that a black child born with a serious physical handicap is going to have people falling over themselves to adopt him? Please.