Is Abortion Morally Equivalent to Murdering Someone?

[chri'stina 190]

Not when abortion is legal.

Steven asked people's opinions on the kind of sentencing that would happen or how it would be treated if it were illegal.

[^_^ 5,021]

Not when abortion is legal.

The thread's premise is "if abortion was illegal". Simpson is addressing that.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Not when abortion is legal.

Well I referring to the original post not the laws as they stand today. If your wondering if I would support some sort of vigilante justice well then the answer is no.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As far as morality goes, you can say abortion is abhorrent, evil, wrong etc. You can argue that it should be illegal but there is a pretty sizeable fulfil between what is moral and what is legal.

Current laws on abortion are based largely on practicality. Some people do use abortion frivolously as birth control and yes that is abhorrent. However does anyone think it less abhorrent to jail people for an accident of biology just to satisfy another persons idea of what is moral?

You can disagree with abortion all you like, but when you take a position that stands in the way of someone's control over their own bodily processes, you become more 'immoral' than the person seeking the abortion.

Do people really want to stop women getting abortions with the threat of jail?

Personally, I believe abortion is amoral. Individual circumstances lend themselves to judgements as to what is morally acceptable.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That has more to do with PITA adoption procedures in the United States (yes, you can blame the lefties for that). There are lots of unadopted American kids out there.

That is because most folks want babies, not kids. It is sorta like Easter, when it is so cute to have a live chick, or duckling, that gets flushed down the toilet when it dies a few days later.

[_Simpson_ 250]

As far as morality goes, you can say abortion is abhorrent, evil, wrong etc. You can argue that it should be illegal but there is a pretty sizeable fulfil between what is moral and what is legal.

Your not good with hypothetical situations are you?

Current laws on abortion are based largely on practicality. Some people do use abortion frivolously as birth control and yes that is abhorrent. However does anyone think it less abhorrent to jail people for an accident of biology just to satisfy another persons idea of what is moral?

Accident of biology

Circumstances matter.

You can disagree with abortion all you like, but when you take a position that stands in the way of someone's control over their own bodily processes, you become more 'immoral' than the person seeking the abortion.

To save the life of a unborn baby? It all about how you look at it and I see your looking at it as a bodily process and not terminating a life.

Do people really want to stop women getting abortions with the threat of jail?

Oh dear god what if they decide to put it up for adoption!

Personally, I believe abortion is amoral. Individual circumstances lend themselves to judgements as to what is morally acceptable.

And if their implementation to what they find morally acceptable didnt affect anyone else then I would say all power to them but that simply isnt the case. The moral issue has everything to do with the value one puts on a baby.

Edited February 3, 2011 by _Simpson_

[faust-yusov 103]

"Morality" in this context is a nice and nebulous and rambling issue, and one that I'm not personally all that close to resolving. Perhaps I never will.

But in reality, the reason abortion is (and should) be legal is because you cannot, in egalitarian society, let women be slaves to their own reproductive systems.

Edited February 3, 2011 by faust-yusov

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your not good with hypothetical situations are you?

Accident of biology

Circumstances matter.

To save the life of a unborn baby? It all about how you look at it and I see your looking at it as a bodily process and not terminating a life.

Oh dear god what if they decide to put it up for adoption!

And if their implementation to what they find morally acceptable didnt affect anyone else then I would say all power to them but that simply isnt the case. The moral issue has everything to do with the value one puts on a baby.

No, it has to do with you thinking that you have some right of control over an individual's body. You do not. Nor should you.

"Morality" in this context is a nice and nebulous and rambling issue, and one that I'm not personally all that close to resolving. Perhaps I never will.

But in reality, the reason abortion is (and should) be legal is because you cannot, in egalitarian society, let women be slaves to their own reproductive systems.

Indeed.

Edited February 3, 2011 by Ron Burgundy

[_Simpson_ 250]

"Morality" in this context is a nice and nebulous and rambling issue, and one that I'm not personally all that close to resolving. Perhaps I never will.

But in reality, the reason abortion is (and should) be legal is because you cannot, in egalitarian society, let women be slaves to their own reproductive systems.

Please they are not slaves to there reproductive system. They own and control their reproductive system and could it have it removed. Hardly a slave. Now if she uses her reproductive system and brings another life into the equation it isnt all about her anymore. How selfish of the woman to think its all about her in this sort of situation.

[_Simpson_ 250]

No, it has to do with you thinking that you have some right of control over an individual's body. You do not. Nor should you.

This happens all the time. Im required to put my seatbelt on. Now when you dumb it down to this level I have every right to use the seatbelt example.

When a woman gets pregnant it isnt just about her rights anymore.

[The_Dude 1,142]

This happens all the time. Im required to put my seatbelt on. Now when you dumb it down to this level I have every right to use the seatbelt example.

When a woman gets pregnant it isnt just about her rights anymore.

You just don't get it Simpson. /facepalm

[_Simpson_ 250]

You just don't get it Simpson. /facepalm

Enlighten me.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Enlighten me.

Or you could actually educate yourself. Radical concept huh?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Or you could actually educate yourself. Radical concept huh?

Why waste the time when I surround myself with smart people like you?

[The_Dude 1,142]

Why waste the time when I surround myself with smart people like you?

Why would someone bother to explain something that by your own admission you are either too lazy or simply incapable of comprehending?