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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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Yes, just like what Darnell said, it is quite open as long as she wants to go back China and live in China whatever temporally or permanently, whatever you two are a couple or not. From your post, maybe you also need to make sure that she is not for immigration purpose by marrying you. Usually people would not get divorced till they get a 10-year green card.

If she becomes a US citizen in the future, I think she automatically gives up Chinese citizenship. Then re-gaining a Chinese Citizenship will be a quite long way to go! China is not an immigration country like USA mainly due to its populations! That also is one of reasons why many Chinese-American couples have to settle down in USA instead of China eventually.

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I still don't see why you are so concerned with this now. Do you really want to go into a marriage thinking about divorce?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Its not dual nationallity i am asking... If she wants to return home to live... can she?

Yes. I said in my first post here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/293202-can-she-go-back-home/page__view__findpost__p__4443135 but here it is again in a different way...

She can live NO PROBLEM in the US for years (indefinitely even) as long as she has her GC and follows all residency requirements she's fine. She can return to China, again, no problem, AS LONG AS she doesn't get US citizenship.

If she gets US citizenship then she loses her chinese citizenship and as Darnell posted there are ways to get that back but as someone else posted, it's a long and difficult road.

She can remain in the US while divorced from you as long as she has (and maintains) her 10 year greencard. She doesn't need to remain married to you, and she doesn't need to return to china.

Your question has been answered already but you didn't seem to understand it.. I don't think you're well-versed in the Visa and LPR process yet. Perhaps you should do a bit more reading on "Legal Permanent Residency" and have your s/o read that as well. Her LPR status (or greencard) has NO effect on her ability to return to china or live in china.. bearing in mind she has residency requirements in the US or she gives up her LPR status. If she returns to china forever she will need to give up (or lose) her GC.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Russia
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California service center approved her application. "thank god i hired an attorney"; My question is this: what if later after we are married she wants a divorce and wants to go back to china... does she still have citezenship in china or are there forms and process she needs to return home? I want her to know this.

Maybe she should ask the Immigration officer at her VISA appointment this question.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I still don't see why you are so concerned with this now. Do you really want to go into a marriage thinking about divorce?

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
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September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

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Filed: Other Country: China
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China does not allow dual nationality BUT her immigrating on a K1 isn't her getting US citizenship (US passport). She is a resident (with a greencard), totally different and has NO impact on her chinese nationality. She can have a greencard no problems but she will never be able to apply for US citizenship, unless China changes their laws.

She can marry you and AOS to get her GC and remain in the US, no probs. If you divorce also no issue (of course she will need an unconditional card, or a conditional card and ROC without you), she is still a chinese citizen. Just remember no US citizenship for her (at least at this time).

Gotta correct the bold section above. China has no say in whether any of their citizens can apply for US Citizenship. They don't "recognize" dual citizenship but have no control over what their citizens do in other countries. US Immigration doesn't ask the Chinese government's permission to grant citizenship.

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Gotta correct the bold section above. China has no say in whether any of their citizens can apply for US Citizenship. They don't "recognize" dual citizenship but have no control over what their citizens do in other countries. US Immigration doesn't ask the Chinese government's permission to grant citizenship.

I thought it was quite obvious (though apparently not) that my post had "if she plans on keeping her chinese citizenship.." implied at the start of the part you bolded given I was replying directly to a question about retaining chinese citizenship/the ability to return to china with no problems. My bad for not ensuring it was 100% clear. I did elaborate further down.

As I stated in some of my further posts, if the OP's chinese s/o wants to retain chinese citizenship she cannot obtain US citizenship as china does not permit dual and according to their laws, obtaining another countries citizenship automatically revokes chinese citizenship. China is not made away of you getting another citizenship unless you tell them or in an example I gave where they realised another passport existed when the citizen had remained in the US for a significant period and no visa to explain that trip in their home countries passport.

Filed: Other Country: China
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I thought it was quite obvious (though apparently not) that my post had "if she plans on keeping her chinese citizenship.." implied at the start of the part you bolded given I was replying directly to a question about retaining chinese citizenship/the ability to return to china with no problems. My bad for not ensuring it was 100% clear. I did elaborate further down.

As I stated in some of my further posts, if the OP's chinese s/o wants to retain chinese citizenship she cannot obtain US citizenship as china does not permit dual and according to their laws, obtaining another countries citizenship automatically revokes chinese citizenship. China is not made away of you getting another citizenship unless you tell them or in an example I gave where they realised another passport existed when the citizen had remained in the US for a significant period and no visa to explain that trip in their home countries passport.

All well and good but yet many Chinese Citizens hold US and Chinese passports, using the Chinese passport to enter China and the US Passport to enter the USA. My wife has had extended time in the USA with nothing but a long expired US visa in her Chinese passport and there will likely NEVER be another US visa in her passport or anything else in her Chinese passport to show she's authorized to enter the USA or remain for a long period of time. What she uses to enter in the USA and show that authorization is a Green Card and it is NOT in her Chinese passport.

I'm pointing out there's a vast difference between what some countries technically publish that the "allow" and what their citizens routinely do anyway.

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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If like Vanessa&Tony have said, China does not allow dual nationality, then she more or less forfeits her Chinese citizenship when she takes US citizenship.

The land of my birth is the same - by taking citizenship elsewhere, I forfeit my Dutch citizenship, and if I try to enter Holland with my Dutch passport while in possession of US citizenship, I will be accused of fraud. I am thinking about not taking US citizenship because I really don't want to lose my Dutch citizenship. But maybe more research is needed by you and your beloved?

I didn't realize this applied to Dutch citizens as well. I have dual nationality - Dutch and British - so I figured I wouldn't tempt fate and try to get a third. Permanent resident seems like a good enough deal. If anything, I know Holland is a safe place that I'd always want to be able to get back to...

Filed: Other Country: China
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I didn't realize this applied to Dutch citizens as well. I have dual nationality - Dutch and British - so I figured I wouldn't tempt fate and try to get a third. Permanent resident seems like a good enough deal. If anything, I know Holland is a safe place that I'd always want to be able to get back to...

Permanent resident status instead of US Citizenship holds only three disadvantage of which I am aware.

1. You cannot vote.

2. You CAN be deported for criminal activity.

3. You must maintain the status, so there are limits to how long you can leave the USA. Google "Maintaining Permanent Resident Status".

While some MIGHT consider these major factors, my wife and I do not.

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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Permanent resident status instead of US Citizenship holds only three disadvantage of which I am aware.

Another disadvantage which I haven't really researched, yet, are the affects of estate and survivor pension taxes on the surviving non-US citizen spouse.

Moving from K-1 Process to General Immigration Discussion.

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Filed: Other Country: China
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Another disadvantage which I haven't really researched, yet, are the affects of estate and survivor pension taxes on the surviving non-US citizen spouse.

Moving from K-1 Process to General Immigration Discussion.

We aren't worried about estate taxes, so I don't know about that but yes, my wife's survivor benefits from Social Security might be lower as an LPR than as a Citizen but any private pension benefits wouldn't be impacted.

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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I didn't realize this applied to Dutch citizens as well. I have dual nationality - Dutch and British - so I figured I wouldn't tempt fate and try to get a third. Permanent resident seems like a good enough deal. If anything, I know Holland is a safe place that I'd always want to be able to get back to...

Back when I reached adulthood, I looked into becoming Canadian (for dual citizenship purposes) and everything I looked at had "as of 2001..." comments related to it, as if the limitations had recently been put into effect. It's possible that your dual nationality is allowed if you obtained it before changes were made?

April, 2009 - We met

May, 2009 - We wooed

June, 2010 - We got engaged, looking forward to a small August 2010 wedding

** Reality Check: K-1 Process**

July 22, 2010 - NOA1

**5 months of patient waiting**

December 29, 2011 - call around for information about delay

January 5, 2011 - RFE notice (first online status update yet!)

January 10, 2011 - RFE Hardcopy

January 13, 2011 - RFE Response acknowledged

January 24, 2011 - NOA2 (at last!!)

February 3, 2011 - application sent from NVC to Montreal (aka. the Abyss?)

March 7, 2011 - Packet 3 sent to me

March 10, 2011 - Packet 3 delivered to Montreal

March 21, 2011 - Packet 4 sent to me

April 5, 2011 - Medical

April 13, 2011 - Interview - approved!

April 20, 2011 - visa in hand

May 9, 2011 - POE (Buffalo, NY)

May 10, 2011 - wedding :)

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Turkey
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Its not dual nationallity i am asking... If she wants to return home to live... can she?

Yes, she can. The only thing I would suggest you do is keep an eye on her Chinese passport and when it comes close to expiring, visit the Chinese Consulate in your area and see about having her passport renewed so that it does not expire.

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Tuana and Kemal's Visa Journey

2010.07.10 We met

2010.10.28 First visit to meet in person

2010.10.31 We became engaged

2011.01.12 Second Visit with my Husband

2011.04.18 Third Visit with my Husband

2011.08.19 Married in Gaziantep Turkey, 4th Visit

2011.10.21 Visited with my Husband, 5th Visit

2011.11.22 SENT IN I-130 Application

2011.12.01 NOA1 Received

2012.02.16 Visited my Husband, 6th Visit

2012.05.08 NOA2 Received

2012.05.21 NVC Received

2012.07.02 Per NVC documents approved, waiting on interview date to be scheduled

2012.08.10 Visited my husband in Turkey, 7th Visit

2012.12.04 Visa Approved

 
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