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Pooky, I've got more than just a nodding acquaintance with different insurance coverages.

I can assure you, without a shadow of a doubt, that the best most affordable coverage our congressional friend could have obtained would have been the Federal coverage. It's extremely affordable and it's accepted everywhere, usually through the Blue Cross network.

So, no, you don't get it.

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So, no, you don't get it.

What is there to get? Anybody in congress who turns down their Federal coverage is supposed to be my hero?

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What is there to get? Anybody in congress who turns down their Federal coverage is supposed to be my hero?

It's not about heroes. It's about a politician actually following through on their words.

So, when these politicians ran on repealing healthcare, the call was, "Will they be hypocrites and take the Congressional healthcare package?"

Now that they are backing up their words with actions, it's, "Well, they can afford to do it, so it means nothing."

Who'd want to be a politician? :no:

You fit right in to the second line I posted earlier.

Judging from most of the other self-serving weasels in Washington, I look at it as unusual, even refreshing, to see politicians backing up their words during the election campaign with actions. It doesn't happen often.

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It's not about heroes. It's about a politician actually following through on their words.

You fit right in to the second line I posted earlier.

Judging from most of the other self-serving weasels in Washington, I look at it as unusual, even refreshing, to see politicians backing up their words during the election campaign with actions. It doesn't happen often.

Pooky, his actions are backed up by his words. But his words don't make any sense for what real Americans face insofar as their healthcare is concerned.

First of all, most Americans can't afford to pay for their coverage out of pocket. They need help from their employer. For working Americans, there is really no other choice. Secondly, most Americans will choose the most affordable coverage IF they have choices between more than one plan.

The guy might be putting his money where his mouth is. But the truth is his example is not a real-life choice for most people. Hence in my opinion it is meaningless.

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As far as it goes, but it doesn't go very far really - if not doing something does not have any real consequences then the not doing of it isn't that meaningful. Not accepting decent health care insurance if the consequence is that you don't have access to health care period would be far more relevant to the situation of those who would like to see coverage for all for health care in the US. These actions would look simply churlish to those in that position, no?

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As far as it goes, but it doesn't go very far really - if not doing something does not have any real consequences then the not doing of it isn't that meaningful. Not accepting decent health care insurance if the consequence is that you don't have access to health care period would be far more relevant to the situation of those who would like to see coverage for all for health care in the US. These actions would look simply churlish to those in that position, no?

See Post #6.

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As far as it goes, but it doesn't go very far really - if not doing something does not have any real consequences then the not doing of it isn't that meaningful. Not accepting decent health care insurance if the consequence is that you don't have access to health care period would be far more relevant to the situation of those who would like to see coverage for all for health care in the US. These actions would look simply churlish to those in that position, no?

If I were you, I wouldn't vote for the guy! That will show him! The majority of his constitutents will disagree...betcha.

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If I were you, I wouldn't vote for the guy! That will show him! The majority of his constitutents will disagree...betcha.

Then the majority of his constituents aren't really thinking about the issue. Would any of them be veterans with Tri-Care coverage, funded by the government? Do these veterans have any other affordable choice for coverage they could glibbly "give up"? What about Federal employees who are conservative thinkers? Are they able to toss away their coverage in order to make a stand?

Essentially the congressman just gave up the sleeves out of his vest. He gave up something he didn't need.

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See Post #6.

I've seen it. So what? It's very easy to make a promise to not do something if the not doing something doesn't have a tangible impact. As I said, he gets a brownie point for following through on a promise, but actually, the promise itself is a terrible slap in the face to those who face real hardship with health care.

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If I were you, I wouldn't vote for the guy! That will show him! The majority of his constitutents will disagree...betcha.

I wouldn't vote for someone who made such promises, correct and? My vote is as significant as every vote and I don't vote in order to 'show 'em'; do you?

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I've seen it. So what? It's very easy to make a promise to not do something if the not doing something doesn't have a tangible impact. As I said, he gets a brownie point for following through on a promise, but actually, the promise itself is a terrible slap in the face to those who face real hardship with health care.

No, the slap in the face was when this administration put forward a sham "healthcare" reform bill that guaranteed to line the pockets of the insurance companies, paid off members of Congress for their votes and made concessions to every friendly special interest group under the sun, instead of passing real healthcare reform and a workable single-payer system.

This is just one of fifteen politicians following through on their campaign promises. Nothing more.

Get some perspective.

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No, the slap in the face was when this administration put forward a sham "healthcare" reform bill that guaranteed to line the pockets of the insurance companies, paid off members of Congress for their votes and made concessions to every friendly special interest group under the sun, instead of passing real healthcare reform and a workable single-payer system.

This is just one of fifteen politicians following through on their campaign promises. Nothing more.

Get some perspective.

I have some perspective, it is a slap in the face to refuse health care coverage when it's a meaningless gesture, that's a real perspective and to cheer someone on as if this means more than it does is rather ugly.

As to the rest, yes I do think what has been put in place is the least progressive solution - but I am currently not convinced that anything different would have got anywhere either. It's a pretty messed up situation where political ideology is standing in the way of real people getting solutions to real life problems, no argument there at all.

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I wouldn't vote for someone who made such promises, correct and? My vote is as significant as every vote and I don't vote in order to 'show 'em'; do you?

My reason for voting would be none of your business and if it was to "show 'em" my vote would count as much as the next guy.

The point (hope the sonic boom didn't bother you when it zoomed overhead) is that his move is political, as all politician's moves are, and pandering to the people who voted for him (you didn't, you can't, he isn't your congressman) The majority of the people who voted for him will think this is great and vote for him again. He wins.

In the meantime he pays for his own insurance (or gets it from his wife's employer, or whatever, who cares?)and doesn't make me pay for it. Though I doubt the exclusion of a few congressmen affects the US Government's insurance premium at all.

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My reason for voting would be none of your business and if it was to "show 'em" my vote would count as much as the next guy.

The point (hope the sonic boom didn't bother you when it zoomed overhead) is that his move is political, as all politician's moves are, and pandering to the people who voted for him (you didn't, you can't, he isn't your congressman) The majority of the people who voted for him will think this is great and vote for him again. He wins.

In the meantime he pays for his own insurance (or gets it from his wife's employer, or whatever, who cares?)and doesn't make me pay for it. Though I doubt the exclusion of a few congressmen affects the US Government's insurance premium at all.

Gary, try reading what I print rather than why you think I should in order to make a point that counterpoints an argument I never postulated.

YOU brought up the idea that any vote cast to a different candidate would be some kind 'show 'em' gesture, I was merely pointing out that that would not be my rational for voting, EVER and wondered if you put it forward because it was yours. I don't really care if you do do that, but doing so makes the person doing it a bit of a prat, in my opinion of course.

Yes Gary, hurrah, the move IS POLLITICAL, who KNEW??? That some people get off on emotive rhetoric is indefatigable, but that does not mean that I have to agree or approve of it, does it? I think that point zoomed over your head, eh?

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Secondly, most Americans will choose the most affordable coverage IF they have choices between more than one plan.

Аss-umptions. Some Americans will choose the BETTER coverage, even

if it costs a little more. Or both - lots of people are covered by their own

plan at work AND their spouse's.

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