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  On 1/25/2011 at 4:52 AM, james&olya said:

Just because a few have them now does not mean it would not be significantly worse if all were openly allowed this 'right'!

You know, it would be so easy to despair of American society and the extreme gun owners and the mentally ill and the felons and all the rest of it - and to conclude that I should hole up in my house with the biggest cache of weapons I could afford - and become exactly like those I would be frightened of

I can see how confusion and fear has driven the gun nuts to be how they are because it is a logical response of a kind and if you have not been brought up to have regard to those outside your house walls (ie a non-socialistic society) - then why not do that ?

However, living in fear in a giant box with a flame thrower for protection is not exactly having a life, so it will not be my response to the dangers of American society

Americans like heroes - so why not go to the park and give peanuts to the squirrels without packing a bloody great gun for protection - that would be so brave - that would make them a hero ! Like an astronaut or a test pilot ! A real man !

It's ironic that people who don't go armed everywhere are seen as wimps but the people who carry guns in shoulder holsters and look fearfully at every stranger are somehow 'real men'. It's an upside down world.

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  On 1/25/2011 at 5:13 AM, Alan the Red said:

You know, it would be so easy to despair of American society and the extreme gun owners and the mentally ill and the felons and all the rest of it - and to conclude that I should hole up in my house with the biggest cache of weapons I could afford - and become exactly like those I would be frightened of

I can see how confusion and fear has driven the gun nuts to be how they are because it is a logical response of a kind and if you have not been brought up to have regard to those outside your house walls (ie a non-socialistic society) - then why not do that ?

However, living in fear in a giant box with a flame thrower for protection is not exactly having a life, so it will not be my response to the dangers of American society

Americans like heroes - so why not go to the park and give peanuts to the squirrels without packing a bloody great gun for protection - that would be so brave - that would make them a hero ! Like an astronaut or a test pilot ! A real man !

It's ironic that people who don't go armed everywhere are seen as wimps but the people who carry guns in shoulder holsters and look fearfully at every stranger are somehow 'real men'. It's an upside down world.

Recent advances in neurology have shown differences in brain structure and function between individuals with some having much bigger/more active 'fear' centers compared to others that have a greater tendency to 'courage' functions. Maybe the American experience has pre-selected for more of a fear dominance in thinking! I am just speculating of course, but it will be very interesting to see what human behaviors may someday be explained on the basis of hereditable traits.

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  On 1/25/2011 at 5:24 AM, james&olya said:

Recent advances in neurology have shown differences in brain structure and function between individuals with some having much bigger/more active 'fear' centers compared to others that have a greater tendency to 'courage' functions. Maybe the American experience has pre-selected for more of a fear dominance in thinking! I am just speculating of course, but it will be very interesting to see what human behaviors may someday be explained on the basis of hereditable traits.

I will try and capture a specimen and do autopsy on the brain to see what more I can find out

I will report back.

For now I will double check the locks and make sure the cat is in and all the electrics are plugged out and look through the blinds for illegals and rapists and communists and socialists and atheists and my government watching me

Then I will sleep like a budgerigar in a cattery and start again Tuesday if I survive the dark spooky night

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  On 1/25/2011 at 4:08 AM, Alan the Red said:

I have posed the question before but here it is again.

A big nasty drunk living in a trailer. Everyone knows he does drugs. He threatens other people on the trailer park. Cars pull up at his trailer all through the night and sometimes he goes out at 2am and shouts and screams and waves a whisky bottle about. Everyone is terrified of him. He has no felony convictions and has not been judged insane.

In the UK he does not get a gun

In the US he can LEGALLY go and get a semi auto version of the AK47 and an AR-15 and a semi auto shotgun and he can fill his trailer with ammunition of all types and leave it around the trailer even though he has two hyper active boys with hysterical emotional problems.

The thing is this - almost every American gun person on VJ is strongly in favor of this being the guy's right and he should be allowed to continue as he is not a felon or judged insane

NO European can get their head round that BUT there is no point in Europeans and Americans discussing this stuff coz it's like trying to tell a cat that it's wrong to chase mice. It's outside the scope of their imagination. It is impossible !

Maybe you should move to a better trailer park?

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  On 1/25/2011 at 6:40 AM, spookyturtle said:

Maybe you should move to a better trailer park?

:rofl:

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

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  On 1/25/2011 at 3:54 AM, james&olya said:

Does this also apply to Muslim citizens with 'investment' income based on massive petrodollar wealth?

I don't know why you keep singling out Muslim citizens. Yes, they have the same rights as any other citizens.

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  On 1/25/2011 at 3:58 PM, mawilson said:

I don't know why you keep singling out Muslim citizens. Yes, they have the same rights as any other citizens.

I don't have a problem with Muslim-Americans. I only point that out to make the poster and potential respondents aware that their status as US Citizen covers a very wide range of people, not just those from their own little 'real america' as Palin likes to dog-whistle to her pack.

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  On 1/25/2011 at 4:02 PM, \ said:

Seriously :lol: His portrayals of American life are unrecognizable to me. Sounds like too much Springer with a healthy dose of hallucinogens.

Get real - most American inner cities are war zones late at night

Nobody will believe your portrayals of them as being like Surrey England on a Sunday afternoon in Summer

MOVE that trailer park scenario to a beat up apartment in SC LA or Chicago or Milwaukee or DC or back streets Miami or Atlanta and tell me that guy should have a gun

I know you can and will because his freedom to have a gun in public comes before any other consideration in your mind. It's a cultural thing with a different mind set and different priorities and sensibilities

To the rest of the world it's crazy, but I know what you think of the rest of the world, so that won't make any difference.

Basically, if gun murder in the USA looks like it does now in a thousand years - you don't give a fig about it and it's 'oh well'. That is the real face of patriotism gun nut style.

  On 1/25/2011 at 4:10 PM, \ said:

yes, maybe some gin too.

Don't slur me you pea brain. I know you cretins are beat when you have to invent slurs that I am alcoholic etc. That is so dirty and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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  On 1/25/2011 at 4:22 PM, Alan the Red said:

Don't slur me you pea brain. I know you cretins are beat when you have to invent slurs that I am alcoholic etc. That is so dirty and you should be ashamed of yourself.

careful how you wield that tar brush ....

if you don't know the term ... google can be your friend .....

 

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