Founder of GreenPeace says MM global warming is B.S.

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GREENPEACE FOUNDER QUESTIONS MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING

Patrick Moore, co-founder of the environmental organization Greenpeace, isn’t too hot about global warming. Appearing on Fox Business Network with Stuart Varney on Thursday, he said global warming is a “natural phenomenon,” there’s no proof of man-made global warming, and suggested that “alarmism” is driving politicians to create bad environmental policies. He also said he’s not the only environmentalist that believes like him:

Moore is the author of the book, “Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist,” in which he exposes the green movement and explains why he left the organization.

While talking with Varney, he explained that departure was in part due to the group’s “extremist positions” and it being hijacked by political and social causes as well as the left:

His Vid is here-> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/greenpeace-founder-questions-man-made-global-warming/

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Good news! More good news every day!

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Life does get better.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Fox News! Pffft!

He is obviously an unbalanced individual:

Patrick Moore, one of the founding members of Greenpeace, writing in the Vancouver Sun, Jan. 7.

The collapse of world communism and the fall of the Berlin Wall . . . added to the trend toward extremism. The Cold War was over and the peace movement was largely disbanded. The peace movement had been mainly Western-based and anti-American in its leanings. Many of its members moved into the environmental movement, bringing with them their neo-Marxist, far-left agendas. To a considerable extent the environmental movement was hijacked by political and social activists who learned to use green language to cloak agendas that had more to do with anti-capitalism and anti-globalization than with science or ecology. I remember visiting our Toronto office in 1985 and being surprised at how many of the new recruits were sporting army fatigues and red berets in support of the Sandinistas.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703396604576087960175856444.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Edited January 21, 2011 by Some Old Guy

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Fox News! Pffft!

He is obviously an unbalanced individual:

Patrick Moore sold his soul to the nuclear and logging industries a long time ago. He's been touting that it is scientifically unprovable to link man-made CO2 emissions to Global Warming for years, so this isn't news.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions. T.M.Gerlach (1991, American Geophysical Union) notes that human-made CO2 exceeds the estimated global release of CO2 from volcanoes by at least 150 times. The small amount of global warming caused by eruption-generated greenhouse gases is offset by the far greater amount of global cooling caused by eruption-generated particles in the stratosphere (the haze effect). Greenhouse warming of the earth has been particularly evident since 1980. Without the cooling influence of such eruptions as El Chichon (1982) and Mt. Pinatubo (1991), described below, greenhouse warming would have been more pronounced.

http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volcanoes_work/climate_effects.html

The claim is that volcanic action around the world in one day spews forth more greenhouse gases than all of man's activities in one year. The claim is completely false. In fact, all the volcanic activity over the entire world for one entire year emits 130-230 teragrams carbon dioxide. In contrast, human activities produce over 7000 teragrams/year (1 petragram=1000 tergrams). So, volcanoes emit only 3% the amount that humans do. In fact, human activity exceed that of volcanic activity early in the Industrial Revolution (by 1870).

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/global_warming_myths.html

Volcanoes also release large amounts of water and carbon dioxide. When these two compounds are in the form of gases in the atmosphere, they absorb heat radiation (infrared) emitted by the ground and hold it in the atmosphere. This causes the air below to get warmer. Therefore, you might think that a major eruption would cause a temporary warming of the atmosphere rather than a cooling. However, there are very large amounts of water and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere already, and even a large eruption doesn't change the global amounts very much. In addition, the water generally condenses out of the atmosphere as rain in a few hours to a few days, and the carbon dioxide quickly dissolves in the ocean or is absorbed by plants. Consequently, the sulfur compounds have a greater short-term effect, and cooling dominates. However, over long periods of time (thousands or millions of years), multiple eruptions of giant volcanoes, such as the flood basalt volcanoes, can raise the carbon dioxide levels enough to cause significant global warming.

http://www.cotf.edu/ete/modules/volcanoes/vclimate.html

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What does that have to do with Patrick Moore being a shill for the industries he once protested against?

Some of his classier moments...

Following claims by the United Fishermans and Allied Workers Union about pollution by the industry generally, the Vancouver Sun reported "Moore called the union's concerns 'phoney', saying that we are not causing pollution and there is no such thing as genetic pollution."(1)

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In July 1991 Moore was asked by a Canadian journalist about B-M's work for the Argentinian junta. "Forest Alliance Director, Patrick Moore, argues that Burson-Marsteller's contract was with Argentina's economic ministry and its non-political role was to encourage foreign investment," Stephen Hume wrote. "It [b-M] has a record of truth in public relations as its bottom line," Moore said, citing the company's role in the Tylenol recall. Moore went on to object to the juxtaposing the reality of state murder of political opponents with Burson-Marsteller's strategy for marketing the perception of Argentina's stability. Besides, Moore argued, "people get killed everywhere."(5)

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Reinforced particularly by the climate-pseudoscientists' claim today that MGW was responsible for the fall of the Roman Empire

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Reinforced particularly by the climate-pseudoscientists' claim today that MGW was responsible for the fall of the Roman Empire

You're quoting WND for science? Are you serious?

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What does that have to do with Patrick Moore being a shill for the industries he once protested against?

Nothing. I just want more global warming and volcanoes are obviously not doing enough.

Edited January 21, 2011 by Some Old Guy

[Dakine10 5,452]

GREENPEACE FOUNDER QUESTIONS MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING

He said global warming is a “natural phenomenon,” there’s no proof of man-made global warming,

I wonder what proof he's actually looking for.

-2010 was the warmest year on record, 0.01 degrees higher on average than 2005, the previous high.

-Atmopheric CO2 concentration is the highest in recorded history, reaching 392ppm last year.

-Human population reached the 7 billion mark last year.

-World energy consumption has doubled since 1980.

I know there is a tremendous disconnect in all this for some, but if we can put "pseudoscience" and rhetoric aside, what actually points to this being more of a "natural phenomenon" than a "man-made" one?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I wonder what proof he's actually looking for.

-2010 was the warmest year on record, 0.01 degrees higher on average than 2005, the previous high.

-Atmopheric CO2 concentration is the highest in recorded history, reaching 392ppm last year.

-Human population reached the 7 billion mark last year.

-World energy consumption has doubled since 1980.

I know there is a tremendous disconnect in all this for some, but if we can put "pseudoscience" and rhetoric aside, what actually points to this being more of a "natural phenomenon" than a "man-made" one?

He's nothing but a shill for the industries that pay him as a consultant, using his former connection to Greenpeace as his calling card.

[Dakine10 5,452]

He's nothing but a shill for the industries that pay him as a consultant, using his former connection to Greenpeace as his calling card.

I understand he has a huge financial incentive to say and print the things he does. I don't understand why he seems to have gained a following with the very same people who decry this perceived behavior in scientists studying global warming. Seems like hypocrisy is the best explanation for their position. I guess that's why it's frustrating to attempt to use facts in this type of discussion.

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A crippling tax on carbon MUST be imposed!!! It's the only way to save the planet!!!!