revoked passport due to owing child support

[AzuomaObidiya 1]

I have a question and wondering if anyone could provide some answers.

My ex husband who is an American citizen (as well as I) owes back child support totaling over $30,000.00 He currently resides and works in the UK and is married to a British citizen and they have two children together born in the UK. Sept. 2010 his US passport was revoked at the US Embassy and he was given a temp passport to return to the US. We held a hearing in the State of Hawaii in Oct. concerning the support owed and another hearing was scheduled in Nov. During this hiring his attorney reported he has returned to the UK and had UK documents he could use to travel back and forth with. The Child Support Office in Hawaii has reported his US passport is currently still revoked as he has not paid anything towards his owing balance. My question is what papers would allow him to travel? Does him being married to a British citizen allow him to return so easily?

The same thing has happened to Jermaine Jackson (Michael Jackson's brother) and he can NOT return to the states until the balance is paid in full. But if he has claimed he is become a UK citizen he may be covered. Sorry that I don't have the best info.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

To my knowledge this is not enforced and there is no penalty. Lots of naturalized US citizens retain their foreign passports. For instance, if my wife became a US Citizen, she would enter China with a Chinese passport and enter the USA with a US passport. The US government makes no decision about who gets to leave the USA but an airline employee would make sure any passenger had a passport and any required visa before boarding a flight to another country.

Nothing said has indicated any reason to believe the subject of this thread bears any other passport but USA. Comments to that effect were pure speculation.

China does not allow dual citizenship. I am aware that some Chinese citizens don't tell their home country they have acquired US citizenship and so don't actually lose their passport till they're discovered... they just try and go under the radar. I think that's what the below poster was getting at... that China doesn't allow it so how is it possible.. maybe.. I think that's what they meant..

I agree that an airline will let a person with Chinese passport board a flight to China, but coming back to the US is a different story.

I would really like to see a real life case of using 2 passports to travel. I assume your wife has not become a US Citizen yet, so you couldn't say for sure that it is trouble free. I can see your wife entering the US with a Chinese passport and US green card without any trouble.

I've had no issues with my UK or Aussie passports and travel with those. I *think* you mean Chinese specific but honestly dual (or multi) citizenship isn't an issue IF your home country allows it... but this it off topic so...

[malgp 0]

He is married to a British citizen and they have two children which were born there. He has lived and worked in the Uk for about 13 years now. Also, he did not attend the hearing but his lawyer stated in Oct he was stuck in Florida due to his revoked US passport. During the second hearing in Nov his lawyer reported he was able to leave the US with "British papers". Would he have been able to apply and receive a British passport while he was "stuck" in Florida. I know for certain he was in the US in early Nov.

[pushbrk 13,044]

He is married to a British citizen and they have two children which were born there. He has lived and worked in the Uk for about 13 years now. Also, he did not attend the hearing but his lawyer stated in Oct he was stuck in Florida due to his revoked US passport. During the second hearing in Nov his lawyer reported he was able to leave the US with "British papers". Would he have been able to apply and receive a British passport while he was "stuck" in Florida. I know for certain he was in the US in early Nov.

If he was able to leave with British papers, did he? The context of all your questions is confusing. Why are you asking. What's it to you? Sounds like you don't even know where the man is, so what's your stake in the issue?

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

If he was able to leave with British papers, did he? The context of all your questions is confusing. Why are you asking. What's it to you? Sounds like you don't even know where the man is, so what's your stake in the issue?

Read her opening post. He's her ex-husband, and he owes her child support amounting to $30K.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

To the OP are you aware of REMO? http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/case/remo.asp

Apparently a few states are non reciprocating. DC, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

To the OP are you aware of REMO? http://www.csa.gov.uk/en/case/remo.asp

Apparently a few states are non reciprocating. DC, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina.

Good suggestion! A friend of mine in Australia has a USC child and her ex is a USC and she is able to claim child support from him. She contacted child support in Australia that contacted the US and had it organised there.

Hopefully this should work for the OP like it does for my friend. That way the OP doesn't need to stress about this stuff. $30K behind.. wow!

[pushbrk 13,044]

Read her opening post. He's her ex-husband, and he owes her child support amounting to $30K.

Not sure how I lost track of that. If he's coming and going from the USA without a US passport, then he's a UK citizen traveling on a UK passport and can continue to do so. The applicable law would have no impact unless some action could be taken to revoke his UK passport WHILE he's in the USA. Not sure what the point of that would be, since he would lose his job in the UK and have to find one here before he could have any earnings attached to repay the child support.

A person legally residing in the USA for 3 or 5 years depending on circumstances can become a US Citizen. The UK offers a similar route but the marriage itself is an avenue to citizenship not a destination.

[malgp 0]

Thank you everyone for all your comments and sugguestions.

Sousuke, thank you for the REMO link. I will contact them.

[Krikit 1,165]

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[curieux 0]

Hi,

The best thing you could have done was to make partial payment in the country where you are. though you did not have all the required child support amount to pay, you could have shown "good morale" by sending whatever you could to the U.S embassy in the country where you are now and get all thisdocumented. At this point, I would still try to send partial payment to the U.S embassy( Or consular Office)for child support processing and wait a little bit of time before I enter the U.S. They will never reject your payment and they will most likely document your willingness and endeavour to make your child support payment.

I am not trying to be offensive towards the females at all, but some women view the child support as a way to nail you, especially when they are infuriated with the separation.

Good luck.

i am not a lawyer, you may want to seek legal advice.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

To my knowledge this is not enforced and there is no penalty. Lots of naturalized US citizens retain their foreign passports. For instance, if my wife became a US Citizen, she would enter China with a Chinese passport and enter the USA with a US passport. The US government makes no decision about who gets to leave the USA but an airline employee would make sure any passenger had a passport and any required visa before boarding a flight to another country.

Nothing said has indicated any reason to believe the subject of this thread bears any other passport but USA. Comments to that effect were pure speculation.

Pushbrk,

you seem to know China very well. I'm just curious whether or not you ever inquired for how many years your US citizen wife would disappear in a dark, wet, Chinese prison for using an invalid Chinese passport and false claim of Chinese citizenship, once caught. It's my understanding that the Chinese regime does not have any tolerance in such cases, but I may be wrong.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Hi,

The best thing you could have done was to make partial payment in the country where you are. though you did not have all the required child support amount to pay, you could have shown "good morale" by sending whatever you could to the U.S embassy in the country where you are now and get all thisdocumented. At this point, I would still try to send partial payment to the U.S embassy( Or consular Office)for child support processing and wait a little bit of time before I enter the U.S. They will never reject your payment and they will most likely document your willingness and endeavour to make your child support payment.

I am not trying to be offensive towards the females at all, but some women view the child support as a way to nail you, especially when they are infuriated with the separation.

Good luck.

i am not a lawyer, you may want to seek legal advice.

Who are you talking to? The OP isn't the one that owes child support... her ex-husband does. Did you read the OP?

[pushbrk 13,044]

Pushbrk,

you seem to know China very well. I'm just curious whether or not you ever inquired for how many years your US citizen wife would disappear in a dark, wet, Chinese prison for using an invalid Chinese passport and false claim of Chinese citizenship, once caught. It's my understanding that the Chinese regime does not have any tolerance in such cases, but I may be wrong.

From my understanding, the Chinese government has no interest in imprisoning anybody for such thing but my wife is not a US Citizen. She's only a Chinese citizen.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

From my understanding, the Chinese government has no interest in imprisoning anybody for such thing but my wife is not a US Citizen. She's only a Chinese citizen.

Pushbrk,

I don't want to squeeze your . . . uhh . . . arm, but this is what you wrote, and I quote:

if my wife became a US Citizen, she would enter China with a Chinese passport and enter the USA with a US passport.

That sounds like a dangerous and highly illegal game to me.