Gun freaks, this is on you.

[Danno 1,228]

If you REALLY want to save teen lives, you would be aiming for stronger Alcohol control laws......any idea how many teens die due to alcohol?

If you don't haver the stomach for that then how about a law making guns illegal on school grounds?

[slim 1,525]

this is the fault of one gun owner in particular.

How can this incident only be the fault of one gun owner?

Are you actually suggesting that sometimes individuals can be responsible for their own action and we can't blame everyone else?

When asked about how the gun could have gotten past the school's metal detectors

So the police can't keep guns out of school?

Honestly, we should have searches all the time. There are a couple students here who come here with guns

A couple students with guns = no more 4th Amendment. Great trade! Future democrat right there.

I hope that I and my loved ones could never become that desperate and despondent. Suicide is such a permanent solution to what is usually only a temporary problem!

My cousin and the leadman at my last job both killed themselves last year. One hanged himself, the other shot himself. Both are equally dead.

It's truly sad we don't have background checks on rope. If rope wasn't carelessly sold to anyone that comes into the hardware store, it's possible those with mental problems could be counseled before they took their own lives.

What I meant is that if I wanted to kill myself using a gun, I would have to go out and buy a gun because I am not a gun owner. Impulse control isn't an issue when the gun isn't even around.

You live in Bahstan, right? It shouldn't take you more than a few hours to locate a gun.

Suicide by cop is always an option too. Don't forget that one!

Most suicides and acts of violence are done in moments of rash judgment, which is why they call those wait times, cooling off periods. Suicidal thoughts are common among teenagers and most don't act on them, especially when carrying it out requires a lot preparation and planning.

I've purchased several guns in my lifetime and without fail, each transaction has taken enough time to require any reasonable person to cool off. It's not like you're picking up a gallon of milk and going through the self-checkout when you purchase a gun.

Even in private sales where no background check is required it's still a process of meeting someone somewhere - and almost always BSing with them for a while - before completing the transaction.

Still making rash judgements after driving across town, BSing for a while, standing in line, filling out paperwork, etc.? If so, you're probably not a reasonable person.

[lostinblue 1,989]

How many people die in an auto accident that should be classified as a suicide?

[slim 1,525]

How many people die in an auto accident that should be classified as a suicide?

Who knows. But, quite a few sit in the garage with the motor running yet I still don't hear the public outcry to ban cars or garages.

[Pooky 3,784]

No, I've been snuggling up at night with Das Kapital and a mug of cocoa recently.

Ah, a Zeppoista, then

[Danno 1,228]

I wonder.... if the kid had instead used his moms sleeping pills..... would she still be arrested for not securing this dangerous item?

How about if it was his moms Razor blades used to cut his wrists?

... or rope from the garage?

Why is it when the kids uses one device we blame mom .. but only for this one?

Edited January 19, 2011 by Danno

[slim 1,525]

I wonder.... if the kid had instead used his moms sleeping pills..... would she still be arrested for not securing this dangerous item?

How about if it was his moms Razor blades used to cut his wrists?

... or rope from the garage?

Why is it when the kids uses one device we blame mom .. but only for this one?

In a few short months they probably would've bought him a car. No danger there either.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

If you REALLY want to save teen lives, you would be aiming for stronger Alcohol control laws......any idea how many teens die due to alcohol?

If you don't haver the stomach for that then how about a law making guns illegal on school grounds?

How old do you think you should have to be to purchase alcohol, Danno?

Most states already state you must be 21 to purchase alcohol. Do you want it raised to 25? 40? 55?

I wonder.... if the kid had instead used his moms sleeping pills..... would she still be arrested for not securing this dangerous item?

How about if it was his moms Razor blades used to cut his wrists?

... or rope from the garage?

Why is it when the kids uses one device we blame mom .. but only for this one?

This is not hard to explain.

Sleeping pills are used to help one fall asleep.

Razor blades are used to shave your face or legs.

Rope - lots of uses.

Guns are used to inflict injury or death.

[slim 1,525]

Most states already state you must be 21 to purchase alcohol. Do you want it raised to 25? 40? 55?

So that's enough?

Then how come when states also state it's illegal to kill someone that's not enough?

Guns are used to inflict injury or death.

Or shoot paper targets.

You are a creep, you know that?

So name calling is OK now too?

It's amazing how it's always OK for some folks to do stuff yet so horrible when others do it. Kind of like when you call for stricter gun laws yet totally overlook the other things in life that kill people. I guess that's OK?

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

So that's enough?

Then how come when states also state it's illegal to kill someone that's not enough?

Tsk tsk. Don't play games by answering a question with a question. I know the reading comprehension level is low right now, but please try to follow.......the............thread..........

Or shoot paper targets.

That's what BB guns are for.

So name calling is OK now too?

I cleaned it up. Just for you.

It's amazing how it's always OK for some folks to do stuff yet so horrible when others do it. Kind of like when you call for stricter gun laws yet totally overlook the other things in life that kill people. I guess that's OK?

What are you overlooking here, slim? A reasonable argument?

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

That's what BB guns are for.

not really.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

not really.

Actually, BB guns are for shooting sand hornets.

I remember (when I was a little girl) that there were a nest of sand hornets along the carport. I remember my Daddy sitting there for an hour or so, waiting for one of them to come out. Shot him clean with the BB gun.

Probably right between the eyes.

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Actually, BB guns are for shooting sand hornets.

I remember (when I was a little girl) that there were a nest of sand hornets along the carport. I remember my Daddy sitting there for an hour or so, waiting for one of them to come out. Shot him clean with the BB gun.

Probably right between the eyes.

bb's are notoriously inaccurate due to their shape - best to shoot pellets.

also - bb guns are not classified as firearms so quite often anyone can buy them. there may be local ordinances restricting sales based on a minimum age.

[Rebecca Jo 1,962]

bb's are notoriously inaccurate due to their shape - best to shoot pellets.

also - bb guns are not classified as firearms so quite often anyone can buy them. there may be local ordinances restricting sales based on a minimum age.

In the words of Heath Ledger - why so serious?

And that's a true story about shooting the hornet. Inaccurate BB gun or not.

Edited January 19, 2011 by Rebecca Jo

[one...two...tree 2,762]

When I shoot a paper target, I want to be sure it's dead with the first shot, so I prefer using a grenade launcher....a bullseye every time!