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WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court isn't given to offering advice to people who are breaking the law, even in a minor way. But some justices on Wednesday effectively told those who might be sitting at home smoking pot when the police come knocking: Do not flush the toilet.

Because if officers smell the pot from the outside, think the occupants are trying to get rid of it and burst in without a search warrant to prevent evidence from being destroyed, some justices indicated they would approve.

The discussion arose during the court's consideration of a case about when the police can enter a home without a search warrant, which the Constitution normally requires.

There are exceptions, and the state of Kentucky argued that its treatment of Hollis King should be one such exception.

The issue for the justices is whether police action — in this case, a knock on a door — that triggers a reaction on the other side — like noise that suggests destruction of evidence — should justify the warrantless entry.

New Justice Elena Kagan said she worries the court could make it too easy for police to avoid the time and effort of getting warrant "in a very wide variety of cases." She said that view would require only that officers said they smelled "pot, we heard noise."

Yet several justices suggested that as long as the police reasonably suspect something illegal is going on and do not use deception or illegal means to gain entry, the search probably doesn't violate the Constitution.

Justice Antonin Scalia said the better response to the police knock is to respond and, if officers ask to come in, say "'Oh, heck, no, you can't come in; do you have a warrant?"

In King's case, he was entertaining two friends at his apartment in Lexington, Ky., on an early fall night in 2005. No one disputes that there was pot and a small amount of cocaine.

But police might never have known this were it not for a nearby undercover operation in which an informant purchased crack cocaine from a dealer. When the dealer entered King's apartment building, the police moved in to arrest him.

They heard a door slam in a hallway, but by the time they were able to look down it, they saw only two closed doors.

Their quarry had entered the door on the right. The police went left, after smelling the aroma of burnt pot coming from that door.

After they knocked, the officers said they heard noises they thought might indicate that evidence was being destroyed.

So they kicked in King's door, and finding the drugs, arrested King and his friends. King pleaded guilty to drug charges, but the Kentucky Supreme Court threw out the evidence against him and the conviction, ruling that the police did not have cause to burst into his home without a warrant.

The state court said the police cannot rely on urgent circumstances they themselves create to enter a home without a warrant.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wondered why police didn't get a warrant since the odor probably gave them reason to get one. "Instead of knocking, because once they knock they alert the people in there, let's get a warrant. We'll come back," Ginsburg said.

But Scalia was not showing any sympathy to King. With feigned outrage, he accused the police of "taking advantage of the stupidity of the criminals."

"That's terrible, that's not fair, is it?" he asked archly.

A decision is expected by early summer.

It was not mentioned in court Wednesday, but the police eventually found the suspected drug dealer in the apartment on the right. Prosecutors later dropped charges against him for reasons that are not explained in court papers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_warrantless_entry

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The REAL bad guy probably destroyed all the evidence while the cops messed with the college student smokig a joint. :rofl:

Another wise use of money confiscated from my paycheck to fight marijuana.

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Gary And Alla

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I fully expect the Fourth Amendment's continued evisceration until it's no more than an inkblot, sigh man. It's on life support now...

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I fully expect the Fourth Amendment's continued evisceration until it's no more than an inkblot, sigh man. It's on life support now...

There is an interesting take on the 4th Amendment that I hear discussed occasionally. Since many of the authors of the Constitution were smugglers of some sort in their previous lives, it has been suggested that the term "unreasonable" would apply to any search which invades the privacy of the person, or of his property, for the purpose of obtaining contraband.

 

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