IS this abuse.. or keeping a kid from GANG culture?

[Peikko 1,575]

Investigate the facts, not your emotional attachment to corporal punishment. Many studies have been done on this and they all conclude that resorting to violence teaches the recipient of violence to react with violence. Probably why you relish a beating yourself

[Nica_In_Love 98]

Society is turning more and more crooked and spoiled everyday. I got my azz kicked many times as a child and I only thank my parents for the way they brought us up (4 kids, not easy to deal with). There's a difference between actually beating a child and whipping them. I see nothing wrong with using the belt. Nowadays you can't lay a finger on your own child because you'll be thrown in jail. I certainly don't agree with that. Oh well, each one to their own.

[Danno 1,228]

Society is turning more and more crooked and spoiled everyday. I got my azz kicked many times as a child and I only thank my parents for the way they brought us up (4 kids, not easy to deal with). There's a difference between actually beating a child and whipping them. I see nothing wrong with using the belt. Nowadays you can't lay a finger on your own child because you'll be thrown in jail. I certainly don't agree with that. Oh well, each one to their own.

Investigate the facts, not your emotional attachment to corporal punishment. Many studies have been done on this and they all conclude that resorting to violence teaches the recipient of violence to react with violence. Probably why you relish a beating yourself

Where you spanked as a child, ever?

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[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Getting spanked made me realize I enjoyed pain.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Investigate the facts, not your emotional attachment to corporal punishment. Many studies have been done on this and they all conclude that resorting to violence teaches the recipient of violence to react with violence. Probably why you relish a beating yourself

I'm a little confused by your statement. You state: "resorting to violence teaches the recipient of violence to react with violence". So you're saying that when faced with violence, the person will react with violence? Ummm.. duh? I know if I was being beaten I would react with violence. Do you think I should speak with words? "no please Mr. Attacker, being violent makes me sad inside". I think what you MEANT to write would be something like:

"Studies indicate that children who are punished with violence may be unable to properly express themselves when faced with difficult or stressful situation and will react with violence".

You'll notice I bolded the word "may" as you keep speaking in absolutes which is also well known to indicate an irrational thought or statement. It's also false, studies on violence indicate the behaviour mentioned above, they don't state absolutely that it WILL happen.

There is a LARGE difference between spanking and abuse. There is nothing wrong with spanking. There is something wrong with a parent losing their temper and beating their child. There is a problem when you leave a mark. Folding a child over your knee is embarrassing for the child. Spanking in young children who don't understand "time outs" is fine, as long as it's open handed. It's not about hurting the child, the sound is supposed to "snap them" out of their tantrum and get their attention. Once the child is old enough to understand then other forms of punishment are preferable because a spanking doesn't last long enough to correct behaviour in older children.

As someone who was "spanked" I do not resort to violence when faced with a difficult and stressful situation. I believe in spanking because i was spanked and my sister was spanked and we turned out a lot better than my sister and brother who were in the era of "no spankings allowed". They are disobedient. They have no respect for authority. They feel entitled. Aside from spanking, the rest of our upbringing was the same. I feel that kids today are just out of control. They're having sex way too young, doing drugs, stealing and all sorts of bad stuff.

I'm pro-spanking. But I'm anti-abuse and I know how spanking is SUPPOSED to be. Never done in anger, never done to humiliate and never hard enough to leave a mark.

In terms of the vid, the guy will probably rebel against his uncle rather than getting the message properly and respecting his uncle, and that's because the uncle has embarrassed him. Thee guy is WAY too old to be "spanked" and it will mean very little in terms of his life, but it will affect how is around his Uncle. I do think the Uncle is good for getting involved, but there are better ways to go about it. For instance visiting a morgue to show him the latest effects of a "gang shooting" or stabbing or something and then taking him somewhere to show him what his life COULD be if he only tried harder. When kids have something to strive for, to look up to, it effects them in more profound ways.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There's something very odious about that video. I wouldn't be surprised if the uncle went to Jerk off in the bathroom after filming it.

Incidentally, i think generally that people who beat others for their own gratification (whether or not that gratification comes from asserting violent authority over someone weaker than them are sexually frustrated as well as mentally or emotionally deficient

[Danno 1,228]

There's something very odious about that video. I wouldn't be surprised if the uncle went to Jerk off in the bathroom after filming it.

Incidentally, i think generally that people who beat others for their own gratification (whether or not that gratification comes from asserting violent authority over someone weaker than them are sexually frustrated as well as mentally or emotionally deficient

The more you tell us.... the odder you seem.

[Danno 1,228]

Investigate the facts, not your emotional attachment to corporal punishment. Many studies have been done on this and they all conclude that resorting to violence teaches the recipient of violence to react with violence. Probably why you relish a beating yourself

Yeah stuff like this is always interesting.

STUDY: SPANKED CHILDREN MAY GROW UP TO BE HAPPIER, MORE SUCCESSFUL

Monday, January 04, 2010

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Young children spanked by their parents may grow up to be happier and more successful than those who have never been hit, a study has found.

According to the research, children spanked up to the age of 6 were likely as teenagers to perform better at school and were more likely to carry out volunteer work and to want to go to college than their peers who had never been physically disciplined.

But children who continued to be spanked into adolescence showed clear behavioral problems.

Children’s groups and lawmakers in the UK have tried several times to have physical chastisement by parents outlawed, the Times of London reported. They claim it is a form of abuse that causes long-term harm to children and say banning it would send a clear signal that violence is unacceptable.

However, Marjorie Gunnoe, professor of psychology at Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan, said her study showed there was insufficient evidence to deny parents the freedom to choose how they discipline their children.

“The claims made for not spanking children fail to hold up. They are not consistent with the data,” said Gunnoe. “I think of spanking as a dangerous tool, but there are times when there is a job big enough for a dangerous tool. You just don’t use it for all your jobs.”

Research into the effects of spanking was previously hampered by the inability to find enough children who had never been spanked, given its past cultural acceptability.

But Gunnoe’s work drew on a study of 2,600 people, about a quarter of whom had never been physically chastised.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581882,00.html#ixzz1AzzQ7N5d

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The more you tell us.... the odder you seem.

You done find it weird that a half naked man filmed himself beating his nephew with a belt and posting it on the Internet?

I think most people would find that a little bizarre...

[Ban Hammer 13,404]

You done find it weird that a half naked man filmed himself beating his nephew with a belt and posting it on the Internet?

I think most people would find that a little bizarre...

surely you've heard of a public service message......

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Sure. That ain't it

[Jenn! 918]

Good or bad uncle, I don't know. But classy for sure.

It makes a lot of sense - surely the problem with today's gang members is that they weren't beaten enough and exposed to enough violence as children.

[SMOKE 1,426]

good uncle, better brother....i'd be willing to bet the kids mother has counselled the youth in the past about gangs. apparently he didn't get the message. so, the uncle just cleaned his ears for him.

[웃 910]

It makes a lot of sense - surely the problem with today's gang members is that they weren't beaten enough and exposed to enough violence as children.

You are being sarcastic, right?

[Jenn! 918]

You are being sarcastic, right?