Blue RFE

[Rictodd 0]

Interview date 1-11-11 12:30

She got there and had her finger prints taken. Showed Packet 4 and was given an interview time the following day at 7:30. She waited 3 hours for her turn, then interviewed for 8-10 minutes. Received the Blue form with the checked box RFE. VO didn't offer any other instructions on the form, but told her everything was fine, we need more photos together. Wouldn't consider pictures of us with her family only pictures of the two of us. We had two pictures of just the two of us taken at her sisters apartment. Also we had more photos of us with her parents, brother and sister, cousin, aunts and uncles, but she was told they could only use pictures of us together. She was told to wait for three months. We have no other pictures of us together. I'm not sure what to do now. I didn't find VJ until after I returned from my last trip to China, actual not until after the I-129 was sent to the NVC.

[Darnell 8,478]

That's very strange, IMO, as the 'picture stuff' has been (historically) photos of you and her with her family.

She has more photos of the two of you together, to submit for the RFE?

[Rictodd 0]

That's very strange, IMO, as the 'picture stuff' has been (historically) photos of you and her with her family.

She has more photos of the two of you together, to submit for the RFE?

I'm checking to see if I have any I can send to her that she doesn't have. I thought that was kind of strange too. I've had some of my family send photos to her in frames, but the VO wouldn't consider them either. I found it even stranger that the RFE box was checked, but the lines instructing you what to send weren't filled in. Not sure if that means the VO couldn't approve and someone higher up needs to, or what to make of that.

Thanks for you well wishes earlier and your reply!

[bobbyA 20]

I'm checking to see if I have any I can send to her that she doesn't have. I thought that was kind of strange too. I've had some of my family send photos to her in frames, but the VO wouldn't consider them either. I found it even stranger that the RFE box was checked, but the lines instructing you what to send weren't filled in. Not sure if that means the VO couldn't approve and someone higher up needs to, or what to make of that.

Thanks for you well wishes earlier and your reply!

Rictodd,

I'm sorry to hear about your situation.

Can you think of anything else in your case that could cause your delay?

You have a feeling that the VO may be waiting for "higher up" to make a decision, hence using the "Blue without instructions" to stall you for 3 months? For instance your SO's English skill? Anything to make them suspect that you don't have a "bona fide relationship"?

Can you share with us some details of case please?

Thank you.

[Shenzhen 34]

Interview date 1-11-11 12:30

She got there and had her finger prints taken. Showed Packet 4 and was given an interview time the following day at 7:30. She waited 3 hours for her turn, then interviewed for 8-10 minutes. Received the Blue form with the checked box RFE. VO didn't offer any other instructions on the form, but told her everything was fine, we need more photos together. Wouldn't consider pictures of us with her family only pictures of the two of us. We had two pictures of just the two of us taken at her sisters apartment. Also we had more photos of us with her parents, brother and sister, cousin, aunts and uncles, but she was told they could only use pictures of us together. She was told to wait for three months. We have no other pictures of us together. I'm not sure what to do now. I didn't find VJ until after I returned from my last trip to China, actual not until after the I-129 was sent to the NVC.

I am glad we took lots of pictures together. Want to borrow some and use photo shop? LOL Literally took hundreds of pictures everywhere we went. BOY THAT SUCKS! I hope someone here can comes up with an answer.

[Rictodd 0]

Rictodd,

I'm sorry to hear about your situation.

Can you think of anything else in your case that could cause your delay?

You have a feeling that the VO may be waiting for "higher up" to make a decision, hence using the "Blue without instructions" to stall you for 3 months? For instance your SO's English skill? Anything to make them suspect that you don't have a "bona fide relationship"?

Can you share with us some details of case please?

Thank you.

Thnaks for the comments. I couldn't be there, busy time of the year for my business and too many of my reports were on vacation to cover for me. Her English is passable, needs improvement, but should cause a delay. Were both in our 40's so I don;t think age would be a difference. I have over 1,000 from my two trips to see her, 160 of her, but the only pictures we took together were at her sisters house. Her sister hosted a party for us with her parents brother, brother-in-law, cousin and 4 sets of aunts and uncles and one additional aunt. I proposed the next day. She had over 250 e-mails with her including e-mails with my mother and aunt. My mother had a picture of herself framed and sent as a gift, so Yumei had that with her too. I'v e forwarded her pictures we took of each other in Yuyuan Gardens with the same Camilia tree in the background. She has the airline tickets of our travel together in China and tickets to the attractions we visited. I can send pictures I took of her at those attraction, but I don't have any of me.

[bobbyA 20]

Thnaks for the comments. I couldn't be there, busy time of the year for my business and too many of my reports were on vacation to cover for me. Her English is passable, needs improvement, but should cause a delay. Were both in our 40's so I don;t think age would be a difference. I have over 1,000 from my two trips to see her, 160 of her, but the only pictures we took together were at her sisters house. Her sister hosted a party for us with her parents brother, brother-in-law, cousin and 4 sets of aunts and uncles and one additional aunt. I proposed the next day. She had over 250 e-mails with her including e-mails with my mother and aunt. My mother had a picture of herself framed and sent as a gift, so Yumei had that with her too. I'v e forwarded her pictures we took of each other in Yuyuan Gardens with the same Camilia tree in the background. She has the airline tickets of our travel together in China and tickets to the attractions we visited. I can send pictures I took of her at those attraction, but I don't have any of me.

Rictodd,

I remember reading some of your postings. You had to reschedule your SO's interview due to her mother's illness. By the way you have a nice picture of the 2 of you next to your post

The consulate may just want more time to review your case for anything they consider "red flag". Does your SO happen to be a party member? Previous marriages? Recent divorce? Financial weakness?

Your SO's "passable English skill" could be that "red flag"? I'm trying to figure out what could be the reason for their issuing a Blue. Without a written RFE asking for pictures, I hope your SO heard the VO correctly. If pictures of the 2 of you are the only requirement here, perhaps you should consider a trip to China and take some pictures of you and her. Chinese New Year is around the corner, and I am sure she will appreciate spending that special time with you

I am no expert, but from what I gathered so far at VJ, every case is unique and there is no magic formula. From your case, we know that pictures with family members are not what they wanted. It could also be an excuse they are using to buy time.

Perhaps you read this lady's posting about her fiance's passing the interview but they were put in AP and visa withheld:

http://www.visajourn...ved-but-got-ap/

Hope your case is similar, where they want to do more investigation to make sure there is no fraud or something else that is holding the case back.

I'm glad it is not a flat out denial. At least there is still hope.

Wish you all the best and keep us posted please.

Thank you!

[Rictodd 0]

Rictodd,

I remember reading some of your postings. You had to reschedule your SO's interview due to her mother's illness. By the way you have a nice picture of the 2 of you next to your post

The consulate may just want more time to review your case for anything they consider "red flag". Does your SO happen to be a party member? Previous marriages? Recent divorce? Financial weakness?

Your SO's "passable English skill" could be that "red flag"? I'm trying to figure out what could be the reason for their issuing a Blue. Without a written RFE asking for pictures, I hope your SO heard the VO correctly. If pictures of the 2 of you are the only requirement here, perhaps you should consider a trip to China and take some pictures of you and her. Chinese New Year is around the corner, and I am sure she will appreciate spending that special time with you

I am no expert, but from what I gathered so far at VJ, every case is unique and there is no magic formula. From your case, we know that pictures with family members are not what they wanted. It could also be an excuse they are using to buy time.

Perhaps you read this lady's posting about her fiance's passing the interview but they were put in AP and visa withheld:

http://www.visajourn...ved-but-got-ap/

Hope your case is similar, where they want to do more investigation to make sure there is no fraud or something else that is holding the case back.

I'm glad it is not a flat out denial. At least there is still hope.

Wish you all the best and keep us posted please.

Thank you!

Thanks for the reply and nice comment about our picture.

We're both single, never married, So said the VO said the financials were fine, I don't believe she's a party member, never has been in a position where she would have been. You did make me think about her work history. She was a Customer Service Manager for an International Marriage Broker when I met her, but resigned after being force to arrange a meeting she knew wasn't right. That was over three years ago. Maybe that is the red flag. I'll ask her if that was brought up in the interview. She didn't tell me it was discussed.

Thanks for the idea about the trip.

[Rictodd 0]

Rictodd,

I remember reading some of your postings. You had to reschedule your SO's interview due to her mother's illness. By the way you have a nice picture of the 2 of you next to your post

The consulate may just want more time to review your case for anything they consider "red flag". Does your SO happen to be a party member? Previous marriages? Recent divorce? Financial weakness?

Your SO's "passable English skill" could be that "red flag"? I'm trying to figure out what could be the reason for their issuing a Blue. Without a written RFE asking for pictures, I hope your SO heard the VO correctly. If pictures of the 2 of you are the only requirement here, perhaps you should consider a trip to China and take some pictures of you and her. Chinese New Year is around the corner, and I am sure she will appreciate spending that special time with you

I am no expert, but from what I gathered so far at VJ, every case is unique and there is no magic formula. From your case, we know that pictures with family members are not what they wanted. It could also be an excuse they are using to buy time.

Perhaps you read this lady's posting about her fiance's passing the interview but they were put in AP and visa withheld:

http://www.visajourn...ved-but-got-ap/

Hope your case is similar, where they want to do more investigation to make sure there is no fraud or something else that is holding the case back.

I'm glad it is not a flat out denial. At least there is still hope.

Wish you all the best and keep us posted please.

Thank you!

We did not reschedule the interview, this is the original date. Her mother had hearrt surgery a couple weeks ago and we weren't sure about where she would be in her recupperation, so we were planning ahead in case it wsan't well. Mom's supose to be back home by the end of February.

[bobbyA 20]

Thanks for the reply and nice comment about our picture.

We're both single, never married, So said the VO said the financials were fine, I don't believe she's a party member, never has been in a position where she would have been. You did make me think about her work history. She was a Customer Service Manager for an International Marriage Broker when I met her, but resigned after being force to arrange a meeting she knew wasn't right. That was over three years ago. Maybe that is the red flag. I'll ask her if that was brought up in the interview. She didn't tell me it was discussed.

Thanks for the idea about the trip.

Rictodd,

I'm glad my little contribution made you think of something to consider.

Yes, it may help to recap what was asked at the interview and how she answered. You said her English was "passable". Was she interviewed in English or Chinese then? I wonder if she misunderstood a question and gave a wrong answer somewhere.

Was she given a date and time to return to the consulate with the pictures they asked for, or does she have to wait 3 months to present the pictures? If it is 3 months out, perhaps you can arrange to travel there to be with her, at least for her to show the VO your passport.

I hope I'm not overwhelming you with questions and ideas.

[Rictodd 0]

Rictodd,

I'm glad my little contribution made you think of something to consider.

Yes, it may help to recap what was asked at the interview and how she answered. You said her English was "passable". Was she interviewed in English or Chinese then? I wonder if she misunderstood a question and gave a wrong answer somewhere.

Was she given a date and time to return to the consulate with the pictures they asked for, or does she have to wait 3 months to present the pictures? If it is 3 months out, perhaps you can arrange to travel there to be with her, at least for her to show the VO your passport.

I hope I'm not overwhelming you with questions and ideas.

Thnaks again. Any kind of help is appreciated. No return interview date, just wait 3 months. I cna't get away from work at this time, we are luanching several new clients worth several million dollars in revenue annually. Wish I could go and have some more pictuires taken and just be with my love, but I can't.

[Rictodd 0]

Rictodd,

I'm glad my little contribution made you think of something to consider.

Yes, it may help to recap what was asked at the interview and how she answered. You said her English was "passable". Was she interviewed in English or Chinese then? I wonder if she misunderstood a question and gave a wrong answer somewhere.

Was she given a date and time to return to the consulate with the pictures they asked for, or does she have to wait 3 months to present the pictures? If it is 3 months out, perhaps you can arrange to travel there to be with her, at least for her to show the VO your passport.

I hope I'm not overwhelming you with questions and ideas.

bobbya,

Thanks again for your thoughts.

I'll ask how she responded and in what language. I encouraged her to respond in English, or Chinese. Which ever she felt most comfortable with. Show English skills, but rely on Chinese. Most of what I told her was to be confident and use her smile.

Eric

[Rictodd 0]

That's very strange, IMO, as the 'picture stuff' has been (historically) photos of you and her with her family.

She has more photos of the two of you together, to submit for the RFE?

Darnell,

Thanks for the reply and well wishes.

There are no more photos of us together. I wish there was, but I'm photo shy and I understand some may not like to be photogrpahed as potential "trohpies" (previous, not her, but still in the back of my brain). Also previous site suggested asking before photographing.

I'm very traditional, as in dressing for dinner White tie or Black tie? So if I feel she may be uncofortable with the taking photos of her, how do I get photos of us together.

Before I left I checked lots of web sites and found the general answer "you should always ask before taking a picture of any person". I probably over did that advice. My aunt also paints from pictures of landscapes, She doesn't do people. So of my 1,000 or so phtos 850 or so are landscapes for her. 150 are Yumei. I apppear in maybe 9 of all the photos, all taken at Yumei's Sister'S home. All one night.

[bobbyA 20]

Darnell,

Thanks for the reply and well wishes.

There are no more photos of us together. I wish there was, but I'm photo shy and I understand some may not like to be photogrpahed as potential "trohpies" (previous, not her, but still in the back of my brain). Also previous site suggested asking before photographing.

I'm very traditional, as in dressing for dinner White tie or Black tie? So if I feel she may be uncofortable with the taking photos of her, how do I get photos of us together.

Before I left I checked lots of web sites and found the general answer "you should always ask before taking a picture of any person". I probably over did that advice. My aunt also paints from pictures of landscapes, She doesn't do people. So of my 1,000 or so phtos 850 or so are landscapes for her. 150 are Yumei. I apppear in maybe 9 of all the photos, all taken at Yumei's Sister'S home. All one night.

Eric,

Although I'm not camera shy, I'm usually the cameraman.

Anyway, I don't think anyone has a definite answer as to what kind of photo is best (you and her alone or with family members). It seems to vary from case to case and from VO to VO. That is why I feel that there must be a "red flag" somewhere and they are just using "request for photo" to buy time. Therefore, I suggested recapping the interview question/answer to figure out what the VO was after. My 2 cents

[Rictodd 0]

Eric,

Although I'm not camera shy, I'm usually the cameraman.

Anyway, I don't think anyone has a definite answer as to what kind of photo is best (you and her alone or with family members). It seems to vary from case to case and from VO to VO. That is why I feel that there must be a "red flag" somewhere and they are just using "request for photo" to buy time. Therefore, I suggested recapping the interview question/answer to figure out what the VO was after. My 2 cents

Darnell,

Thank you, as always, for your insight. She said she answered in English and Chinese depending on the questuon and her comfort level answerinf the question. She said her VO was a man with dark glasses who wouldn't return her smile (seems I hear read that description on a lot of the negative reviews of the consulate, maybe just my imagination.) Shes said he asked one question threee times, about when we met. Sheanswered the dates I was there with her on all three answers. I think the question may have been how did you meet and she didn't understand it, or it wasn't asked correctly. Because of her mothers health (we thought about rescheduling), so everything was done at the last minute. Health exam Monday before appointment, fee paid Tuesday morning before the afternoon appointment. I wish I could have been there with her.

I contacted the consulate and told them of the RFE with no description of what was needed, but a verbal of more photos, no more were available, and what else do we need to do. The response was nothing else wait several months for the administrative process.

Thanks,

Eric