Getting a Social Security Number is a Farce

[weescotlassie 2]

Well what a day i had at the social security office.. I had applied to get a SSN 7weeks ago & without getting anything in, i decided to go down to the social security office to see what the hell has happened to it. After waiting a very long hour in there, i proceed to give the lady the receipt i got when i applied for the SSN. Dated back to 16th nov. with the reference number. So the lady started punching the info into her computer looking very puzzled. Then she says oh you are in the system. Then she disappears off to speak to the lady who originally dealt with me 7weeks ago. Then the next thing i see was the 2 women were looking through their filing cabinets to find my paperwork. Then i hears the lady that dealt with me originally "i found the paperwork" Then the other lady comes back to me we got your information back just thursday past & you won't be getting your SSN as you're I-94 has now expired. The woman asked me could i get my I-94 renewed & i looked at her & said to her you can't renew a I-94. Well that was it i was in a rage after hearing that. I asked the lady why has it taken you 7weeks to have this processed & you couldn't be bothered to inform me by letter? I'm just wondering if they even bothered to get the paperwork processed. As i made sure i gave plenty of time before my I-94 expired. The woman kept saying sorry to me & i told her i was very diappointed on how this system works. So i have gone one step further with this & gone to the congressman John Mica's office to has this sorted. After talking with one of his aid workers they inform me that it don't matter whether you're I-94 has expired or not you are intitled to receive your SSN if you done everything that was required of you. So now they are handling the situation for me & looking into why this has happened. I will let you know what the outcome will be..

[Darnell 8,478]

if yer I-94 has expired -

you'll have to wait until you have the Green Card in hand...

(maybe you'll be ok with just an EAD card)

then ya goes back to an SSA office, apply again.

sorry for yer plight - what was the real cause for the delay ?

For anyone else reading this..

Go Back 2 days after you apply, you can get the number from the clerk at the front desk -

and if they # isna available -

you'll know WHY, right then and there.

Edited January 11, 2011 by Darnell

[weescotlassie 2]

if yer I-94 has expired -

you'll have to wait until you have the Green Card in hand...

(maybe you'll be ok with just an EAD card)

then ya goes back to an SSA office, apply again.

sorry for yer plight - what was the real cause for the delay ?

For anyone else reading this..

Go Back 2 days after you apply, you can get the number from the clerk at the front desk -

and if they # isna available -

you'll know WHY, right then and there.

The woman didn't say what the cause of the delay was, I was so mad to how this system works if you have done everything by the book then it aint your fault. It's them being slow that's the problem. From what i see this seems to happen quite alot.

[Darnell 8,478]

you could go back tomorrow, inquire then.

today is shot, IMO.

[weescotlassie 2]

you could go back tomorrow, inquire then.

today is shot, IMO.

I'm just gonna let the local congressman deal with it & see what the outcome will be.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

You are from the United Kingdom, so odds are that you are an educated person.

You may have heard of people who had half of their brain removed, most due to a horrible illness. Interestingly, the other half of the brain can take over the duties of the removed half and the patient can lead an almost normal life. Now imagine a person whose whole brain has been removed. What can they do? Nothing, you'd say, but you'd be wrong. Those people find employment at the SSA and many DMV offices!

Now you see what happened. You applied in time, the drones put your paperwork next to the stick-it notes in the file cabinet. Seven weeks later you check why it's taking so long and they even can find your paperwork after some searching. Now give those women some credit, for crying out loud! How many monkeys would have been able to pull that out of their head, huh?

Of course, now that your I-94 is expired they can't really process your application for a SSN anymore. And whose fault is that? Yours, of course, 'cause you waited to long with your follow-up. If you deal with monkeys, retards an SSN/DMV drones that have an IQ between 1 and 10, you cannot rest until you can be sure that they didn't #### up anywhere along the way. If there's a way to #### up, they'll find it, to be sure.

Nothing you can do at this point of the journey short of 2nd Amendment remedies but that would be plain wrong. The US is a fantastic country in so many ways, but where there is light there also is shadow. From now on you'll just have to accept that people who work at the SSA and (to a lesser degree) the DMV are not like "normal" people.

Welcome to America!

[Barbara J 115]

You are from the United Kingdom, so odds are that you are an educated person.

You may have heard of people who had half of their brain removed, most due to a horrible illness. Interestingly, the other half of the brain can take over the duties of the removed half and the patient can lead an almost normal life. Now imagine a person whose whole brain has been removed. What can they do? Nothing, you'd say, but you'd be wrong. Those people find employment at the SSA and many DMV offices!

Now you see what happened. You applied in time, the drones put your paperwork next to the stick-it notes in the file cabinet. Seven weeks later you check why it's taking so long and they even can find your paperwork after some searching. Now give those women some credit, for crying out loud! How many monkeys would have been able to pull that out of their head, huh?

Of course, now that your I-94 is expired they can't really process your application for a SSN anymore. And whose fault is that? Yours, of course, 'cause you waited to long with your follow-up. If you deal with monkeys, retards an SSN/DMV drones that have an IQ between 1 and 10, you cannot rest until you can be sure that they didn't #### up anywhere along the way. If there's a way to #### up, they'll find it, to be sure.

Nothing you can do at this point of the journey short of 2nd Amendment remedies but that would be plain wrong. The US is a fantastic country in so many ways, but where there is light there also is shadow. From now on you'll just have to accept that people who work at the SSA and (to a lesser degree) the DMV are not like "normal" people.

Welcome to America!

I Love You Bob so funny and so true

[I'm Gone 60]

I'm just gonna let the local congressman deal with it & see what the outcome will be.

I don't care if Obama calls the office, if your status has expired or is within 14 days of expiring no number can be assigned or card issued. It doesn't matter that you applied before the status being within the 14 day window.

Edited January 11, 2011 by I Quit

[weescotlassie 2]

I Love You Bob so funny and so true

Really is such a nice Welcome To America... So many people have said that to me, that's America for ya!!!!! LOL

[Barbara J 115]

Really is such a nice Welcome To America... So many people have said that to me, that's America for ya!!!!! LOL

Yeah same here my husband says it all the time " Welcome to the states baby" lol Only in America haha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MochiKamo 93]

Man you guys are getting me worried about when my fiancee moves here. Everything is so perfectly orderly in Japan. It's pure chaos here.

[Darnell 8,478]

Man you guys are getting me worried about when my fiancee moves here. Everything is so perfectly orderly in Japan. It's pure chaos here.

You can control much of the inputs IF you make a calendar and STICK TO IT.

here's a nice time tick to follow -

POE date - can't apply yet

14 days past POE date - can apply

14 days prior to I-94 expires - last date to apply, or wait until EAD in hand to apply again.

when fiance applies, always go back 2 days later, find out if any problems, if no problems # is available then.

if any problems - have supervisor recheck SAVE database - and tell yer fiance exactly what the issue is (name wrong, wrong digits in something) then get to secondary inspection / deferred inspection office of the CBP , go face to face with CBP human, fix it it real time. 2 to 4 days after, get back to SSA office, apply again.

[Laura&Leo 0]

It sounds like we are in the EXACT same situation. My husband applied for his SS card way back on October 28th. (before we were married) We've been fighting an uphill battle ever since to get him the card. SS claims they can't "confirm his status"- but USCIS says everything is completely fine and progressing nicely. We've also got one of the state Senators involved now, hoping that will help. We've written to the White House, filed a formal complaint on the SS website, contacted the the Regional and National SS offices... NOTHING has happened. If you finally get some assistance, I would love to know how you do it!

[ryna 132]

You can control much of the inputs IF you make a calendar and STICK TO IT.

here's a nice time tick to follow -

POE date - can't apply yet

14 days past POE date - can apply

14 days prior to I-94 expires - last date to apply, or wait until EAD in hand to apply again.

when fiance applies, always go back 2 days later, find out if any problems, if no problems # is available then.

if any problems - have supervisor recheck SAVE database - and tell yer fiance exactly what the issue is (name wrong, wrong digits in something) then get to secondary inspection / deferred inspection office of the CBP , go face to face with CBP human, fix it it real time. 2 to 4 days after, get back to SSA office, apply again.

I have to say, we've done all of that, always following up with 2-3 days, and we can't get a definitive answer out of them as to 'what's wrong'. The most they will say is "awaiting third level verification from DHS. Check back in two weeks." We have already corrected her I-94 at CBP (which had less than her full name on it originally), now their database has a misspelled name in it. I thought typos on their part and other obvious errors were the reason manual verification exists in the first place? A single letter error (on their part, no less) shouldn't be this difficult to figure out!

We now have the correct, mistake-free documents in hand. There is nothing we can do to guarantee that they enter it correctly into their system short of hopping over the counter and doing it ourselves! Probably not a good idea...

At least my wife is only at 5 weeks since applying and there's about one more month more before she hits the 14 day cutoff. An InfoPass appointment is next (and ASAP!) This needs to be fixed. I'm getting tired of taking off work, at significant cost, trying to fix their mistakes...

Makes me thankful that I (almost) never had to deal with Uncle Sam prior to this. I guess I need to get used to it over the next several years..

Frustrating!

[Haarp425 26]

14 days past POE date - can apply

Here's latest procedure POMS Section: RM 10213.305 Procedure when an SSN Applicant Files for an SSN within 10 Days of Arriving in the U.S or being Granted a New Status.

Effective Dates: 01/06/2011 - Present

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0110213305

Step 1>

If the SAVE IV response verifies the applicant’s status, continue with the SSN application. If the IV response does not verify the applicant’s status, go to Step 2.

Step 2>

Hold the SSN application 10 calendar days beyond either the date the alien entered the U.S. or the date on the DHS document granting the new status.

- Hold the application

- Place in the FO pending file, a clear and legible copy of both sides of the immigration document(s)

- Go to Step 3.

EXCEPTIONS:

- Never hold a refugee’s application, see RM 10211.185.

- Never hold an asylee’s application, see RM 10211.205.

- If the verification response was “REFER STUDENT/EXCHANGE VISITOR TO THEIR SCHOOL PROGRAM SPONSOR”, follow the instructions in RM 10211.395.

Step 3>

When the 10–calendar day condition is met,

- Submit a new Initial Verification request instead of the Additional Verification request. Go to RM 10213.095, Step 2.