New grads and the nursing shortage

[alienlovechild 75]

The truth is out there.

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8229669/

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i love it.

[Danno 1,228]

My Daughter had to move to Fla. to find a job after graduating, seems there is a shortage of these jobs available, especially without that critical first year of experience.

Perhaps not surprisingly...... we actually have a program put in place by congress to immigrate foreign nurses into the country to help take the few jobs which might be available.

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[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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But there is a nursing shortage...

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Anyone who gets into a profession and thinks it's going to be a cakewalk set themselves up for a big disappointment, IMO. Back in '96, when I got accepted into animation school, there was a lot of hype about freshmen getting lucrative contracts offered and leaving school after their first year. The industry had just gone through a huge boom and was already coming down from it. One of instructors who had worked in the industry for more 10 years said that perseverance was the key to survival, which I think was correct for the most part. It's a matter of how bad you want it. I've found similar dynamics as I've begun transitioning into the medical field. There are a lot of people rushing into nursing right now because they believe it's a sure thing, but the reality is, not everyone going into nursing is going to make it as a nurse.

[Danno 1,228]

Anyone who gets into a profession and thinks it's going to be a cakewalk set themselves up for a big disappointment, IMO. Back in '96, when I got accepted into animation school, there was a lot of hype about freshmen getting lucrative contracts offered and leaving school after their first year. The industry had just gone through a huge boom and was already coming down from it. One of instructors who had worked in the industry for more 10 years said that perseverance was the key to survival, which I think was correct for the most part. It's a matter of how bad you want it. I've found similar dynamics as I've begun transitioning into the medical field. There are a lot of people rushing into nursing right now because they believe it's a sure thing, but the reality is, not everyone going into nursing is going to make it as a nurse.

Amen to that Bro.

It's always a good idea to pursue some field you have a real interest in rather than one which seems "sensible".

[SuperDuper! 230]

The one shining truth in this nursing shortage cartoon, is when the guy says, "But everyone thinks there is a nursing shortage, so they went into nursing school, and now there is a nurse surplus."

Hospitals are hurting, too. When there is a bad economy, healthy people are the first to cancel there health insurance benefits. Therefore, the less healthy people who over access the health care system remain.

Hospitals lay off workers right and left, including nurses, in order to balance the books.

In a bad economy, people feel less secure in retiring, so older nurses who would normally retire, and give up their positions to younger, student nurses, remain on the job and take up a job slot that a new nurse would take.

The bottom line is, there really is not a nursing shortage in the current economy. It's tough out there for the veteran nurses to maintain and find employment.

Word!

[alienlovechild 75]

Perhaps not surprisingly...... we actually have a program put in place by congress to immigrate foreign nurses into the country to help take the few jobs which might be available.

USCIS stopped widely granting work visas to nurses around 2005.

Now foreign nurses with special nursing skills/experience not available domestically can get a visa so the number is very low.

[Danno 1,228]

If I were just getting into nursing considering the job market, I would checkout working for the VA or something like that, I believe they pay for part of your education as an incentive... anyone know the details on that?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If I were just getting into nursing considering the job market, I would checkout working for the VA or something like that, I believe they pay for part of your education as an incentive... anyone know the details on that?

I know that some of the Indian Reservations around here in Arizona, offer reimbursement for schooling, but you have to commit yourself to living and working there for a certain number of years.

[james&olya 1,121]

The retirement of all the baby-boomers is supposed to create a need for many more nurses, doctors, etc. The problem is that social policy in this country may be heading sharply in the opposite direction. Demands for more tax cuts will inevitably lead to benefit cuts and medicaid wiil face the chopping block. Medicare may not be far behind. Having a job skill that is much in need does not translate into income security if the money to pay for those needed services is not there. They 'need' doctors and nurses in Africa as well, how many are headed there from here? Not many, since the need does not correlate with an expectation of payment for services delivered. The same can happen here and already is starting to. Unless the public gets more willing to accept higher taxes, benefits will be cut. And more jobs will be lost.

[Danno 1,228]

The retirement of all the baby-boomers is supposed to create a need for many more nurses, doctors, etc. The problem is that social policy in this country may be heading sharply in the opposite direction. Demands for more tax cuts will inevitably lead to benefit cuts and medicaid wiil face the chopping block. Medicare may not be far behind. Having a job skill that is much in need does not translate into income security if the money to pay for those needed services is not there. They 'need' doctors and nurses in Africa as well, how many are headed there from here? Not many, since the need does not correlate with an expectation of payment for services delivered. The same can happen here and already is starting to. Unless the public gets more willing to accept higher taxes, benefits will be cut. And more jobs will be lost.

I think they call that a "market correction"..... no need for tax money to try to manipulate the job market.

[Amby 490]

I feel like everyone I know went to or is going to school to be a nurse. I think the biggest problem is the 2 year nursing degrees that put some real dumbshits out into the workforce. The stories I've heard about new nurses make me I've had numerous people complain that the new nurses on night shift think they're entitled to sleep on the job since they're not busy. The things I've heard are insane. I was just talking to a neurosurgeon friend of mine about this tonight. It's bizarre some of the things these people try to get away with.

[sandinista! 1,816]

lol and yikes, all at the same time. i don't disagree that there are some real dumbass nurses out there, but talk to enough of the non dumbass ones and they'll give you some pretty hair raising stories about drs that don't know their heads from their asses either. and they should be able to tell their heads from their asses-they had to take a lot more extensive anatomy courses than we ever had to. as long as drs and nurses work together, they will talk ###### about each other.

Edited January 9, 2011 by sandinista!