Deportation

[Fandango 1,439]

So when i called her she informed me and i let her know that i need him out of usa because i am financially responsible. so with her on phone i told him her deal,, 390 in fees and a ticket in hand to egypt and he is able to go,... .

Hi, congrats on your progress, but to be clear for others in a similar situation, 'needing someone out of the usa because you are financially responsible' is not adequate grounds for deportation.

Again, congrats!

[mystic 11]

Hi, congrats on your progress, but to be clear for others in a similar situation, 'needing someone out of the usa because you are financially responsible' is not adequate grounds for deportation.

Again, congrats!

No and that is not what that was meaning. Lets clear that up a bit, the grounds for deportation in our case is a CONVICTION of domestic violence not simply needing him out of states because i am financially responsible.

The discussion of my being financially responisble was to his probation officer. He had been going to his probation officer and asking her to let him out of his probation so that he could move to las vegas,,, behind my back.

When i finally got to talk to her and she let me know he was asking to be able to move to las vegas and needed her to let him out of his probation. I explained to her that if she allowed him to move out of the state and he ended up getting any kind of assistance that i would be financially responsible for that due to the fact he is an immigrant and i signed the affidavit. His probation officer wasnt aware of that fact beforehand and decided that the only way she would let him out of probation is if he presented her with a ticket back to egypt and got on the plane. That is not deportation, it was a chance to let him leave back to egypt on his own to get out of his probation...

The Deportation stage came in after he made the false allegations to the prosecutor about me... i had already told him that if we were to file removal of conditions they would deport him because they would find the conviction. and as well if he had gone back to visit his family they would not have let him back into the states due to the conviction.

After he made the false report attempt i notified immigration about his conviction myself and called back again to make sure they will remove him due to his conviction and how to make it happen due to the fact he openly made a threat towards me indicating he would hurt me and he had already done so before. For my safety and my kids, i started the deportation process on him on an actual removable ground.

[Darnell 8,478]

mystic - you Rock, Lass !!

[Fandango 1,439]

No and that is not what that was meaning. Lets clear that up a bit, the grounds for deportation in our case is a CONVICTION of domestic violence not simply needing him out of states because i am financially responsible.

The discussion of my being financially responisble was to his probation officer. He had been going to his probation officer and asking her to let him out of his probation so that he could move to las vegas,,, behind my back.

When i finally got to talk to her and she let me know he was asking to be able to move to las vegas and needed her to let him out of his probation. I explained to her that if she allowed him to move out of the state and he ended up getting any kind of assistance that i would be financially responsible for that due to the fact he is an immigrant and i signed the affidavit. His probation officer wasnt aware of that fact beforehand and decided that the only way she would let him out of probation is if he presented her with a ticket back to egypt and got on the plane. That is not deportation, it was a chance to let him leave back to egypt on his own to get out of his probation...

The Deportation stage came in after he made the false allegations to the prosecutor about me... i had already told him that if we were to file removal of conditions they would deport him because they would find the conviction. and as well if he had gone back to visit his family they would not have let him back into the states due to the conviction.

After he made the false report attempt i notified immigration about his conviction myself and called back again to make sure they will remove him due to his conviction and how to make it happen due to the fact he openly made a threat towards me indicating he would hurt me and he had already done so before. For my safety and my kids, i started the deportation process on him on an actual removable ground.

I totally agree, and understand that. I was just clarifying that one statement...for anyone else reading that may get a wrong idea from that one statement. Of course you are getting the dep order under different grounds...I was just clarifying.

Congrats again on the progress

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

well i typed this out once but it didnt go for some reason..

This is where my journey ends.

After posting the previous posts i told him he has to leave he refused to believe that we are finished. Said to let him stay until finishes probation and community service and i refused, he called in some islamic foundation to talk to me on his behalf to change my mind, in the end they decided he needed to leave after hearing my side. I talked to probation officer and prosecution to find out how to get him to be able to go back to egypt, well found out that he doesnt have community service due to paperwork error and that all that was needed was 390 in fees and he had known that for some time, had been asking to be able to leave to vegas not egypt telling them i am abusive to him hahah , the probation officer had been asking to talk to me and he refused permission. So when i called her she informed me and i let her know that i need him out of usa because i am financially responsible. so with her on phone i told him her deal,, 390 in fees and a ticket in hand to egypt and he is able to go,... he refused it with her on phone as witness

after hung up said his family will give him the money and i said you have one day to get it and get out or i call immigration and report the conviction... he said not to do that he will get the money and go..... later prosecution called me and told me that probation requested a review of his case and told me the time and date and passed that on to him. I left for work.

I came home and played with baby and talked with my 18 yr old daughter, put baby to bed and went to sleep, he stayed in the computer room that he sleeps in all that time so i never saw him.

8 am i got woke up to a phone call saying he is at prosecutors office with scratches all over face and neck trying to press charges against me for it.

i told her i havent even seen him since i was on phone with you yesterday and told him about the court date,, she said are you kidding i said no, call the school and verify with my daughter if you like cause she was here unti 15 min ago when she got on bus... it takes 35 min to drive to prosecution office and it was his story he took a taxi. so i offered to come in and let them test my fingers and she said not necessary, i also pulled his cell records from online and took them to the office and showed them he had called no one that morning but someone had called and woke him up at 5 am which if he walked to the office was about the right amount of time, about 2 and half hour walk.... his story was that he packed bags and was leaving, waiting on taxi and i attacked him trying to make him stay. They didnt believe him and told him they were not touching me so he said he would take care of me his way then.. they arrested him then, disorderly conduct and revoked bond. Court was friday and the judge denied bond and issued a 2 year no contact protective order, no contact at all not even message through another person, next court feb 17 jail til then he asked for charges to be dropped and allowed to go back to egypt on his own and i spoke up and said i feel he needs escorted out of the usa if he is allowed to go because he told investigator he cant return to egypt and while being fingerprinted screamed he will not go back to egypt over and over , the judge said all that will be decided at a much later time..... i contacted immigration they called me back.. they told me exactly what to tell prosecution to get him out of country, said to have prosecutor or arresting officer call a certain number ask for DRO of my city and tell them they have an egyptian national in custody with a conviction of domestic violence and need a detainer. I said i was worried they would let him out to go back to egypt and he said no, that the detainer will force them into holding him in jail until immigration picks him up for deportation and HE WILL BE DEPORTED FOR THAT CONVICTION...so that is the story ... its ending here, and hopefully he will be out of the usa soon and i will be safe again.

I have warned everyone I know about false vawa and you are not the first woman I know who has been set up. I watched a woman several years ago lose her job and her apartment because her moroccan husband filed a false claim in North Carolina. Eventually she got through it. Consider yourself lucky. Men filing falseclaims under vawa has really picked up like crazy and its awful what he did to a woman with small children. What a freaking sociopathic creep. Its amazing what men will do when losing their papers. Its the scariest time for the american and no one would believe you if you told them. Until they have been through blackmail themselves. The other kind of threat is to threaten financially if they dont finish removing conditions or completing citizenship. Whats worse is they get coached by others from their country

[mystic 11]

I have warned everyone I know about false vawa and you are not the first woman I know who has been set up. I watched a woman several years ago lose her job and her apartment because her moroccan husband filed a false claim in North Carolina. Eventually she got through it. Consider yourself lucky. Men filing falseclaims under vawa has really picked up like crazy and its awful what he did to a woman with small children. What a freaking sociopathic creep. Its amazing what men will do when losing their papers. Its the scariest time for the american and no one would believe you if you told them. Until they have been through blackmail themselves. The other kind of threat is to threaten financially if they dont finish removing conditions or completing citizenship. Whats worse is they get coached by others from their country

I have no doubt he had help in coming up with the plan, someone called him at 5 am i assume a wake up call to start executing his plan since it was going to take him at least 2 hours to walk to the prosecutors office.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I have no doubt he had help in coming up with the plan, someone called him at 5 am i assume a wake up call to start executing his plan since it was going to take him at least 2 hours to walk to the prosecutors office.

I experienced being held hostage with financial threats and before the ROC took place,mine told me I was lucky he didnt file an abuse claim.

I filed against my will and prayed every day it would be approved so I would be free from his threats, his family and the abuse they all dished out on me. It was fraud on a family level and even when I was in the hospital, it was like they were praying I would die so they could get money from my estate. It wasnt until they all figured out my family wasnt going to take it lying down that they stopped. My mother and my aunt told them all if anything happens to me, they would prosecute for my death ( I developed an auto immune disease that EVERYONE thinks was brought on by 24 hour emotional abuse from him and his extended family) Whenever things would calm down, his mother would ramp things up, then it would be some dip ###### friend telling him to hurt me more etc>)

[mystic 11]

I experienced being held hostage with financial threats and before the ROC took place,mine told me I was lucky he didnt file an abuse claim.

I filed against my will and prayed every day it would be approved so I would be free from his threats, his family and the abuse they all dished out on me. It was fraud on a family level and even when I was in the hospital, it was like they were praying I would die so they could get money from my estate. It wasnt until they all figured out my family wasnt going to take it lying down that they stopped. My mother and my aunt told them all if anything happens to me, they would prosecute for my death ( I developed an auto immune disease that EVERYONE thinks was brought on by 24 hour emotional abuse from him and his extended family) Whenever things would calm down, his mother would ramp things up, then it would be some dip ###### friend telling him to hurt me more etc>)

Im very sorry for that, it sounds horrible. His family wasnt really involved in this, when we were in egypt they supported me during our fights not him. Here they cant see what is happening and are only focused on the fact that their son went to jail... twice now. So of course i am the bad one. My only health effect of our relationship was blood pressure, my normal is 106/65, starting from a year ago with all the stress he was causing it jumped to 158/98. Since he has been out of the house it has gone back down to 113/75. The only thing i get is a couple people feeling sorry for his family and so do i but that doesnt mean that i should help get him out of jail ,,, as i told those people, the only help i am giving is help getting him back home.... ESCORTED to be sure me and my family are safe. I dont want him in jail, i want him out of this country.

What you went through sounds horrible and me personally i tend to not cave into threats at all, i challenge them, which was the problem, he hated the fact that i would not back down when he started his huffing and puffing. I am very happy your family was there to stand up for you and i hope you are doing better now.. Thank you for understanding my situation better than most can. Prayers and good things to you.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

Im very sorry for that, it sounds horrible. His family wasnt really involved in this, when we were in egypt they supported me during our fights not him. Here they cant see what is happening and are only focused on the fact that their son went to jail... twice now. So of course i am the bad one. My only health effect of our relationship was blood pressure, my normal is 106/65, starting from a year ago with all the stress he was causing it jumped to 158/98. Since he has been out of the house it has gone back down to 113/75. The only thing i get is a couple people feeling sorry for his family and so do i but that doesnt mean that i should help get him out of jail ,,, as i told those people, the only help i am giving is help getting him back home.... ESCORTED to be sure me and my family are safe. I dont want him in jail, i want him out of this country.

What you went through sounds horrible and me personally i tend to not cave into threats at all, i challenge them, which was the problem, he hated the fact that i would not back down when he started his huffing and puffing. I am very happy your family was there to stand up for you and i hope you are doing better now.. Thank you for understanding my situation better than most can. Prayers and good things to you.

I absolutely believe you and I am sure if he was calm and not beating the snot out of you, you may have even helped him

The fake scratches and false vawa should send out a warning siren to women marrying men from overseas. It doesnt mean its going to happen but its an example of what CAN happen when you take the papers away from someone who married you for them. Its terrifying for the American, absolutely terrifying. I think if he would have been calm , I think you would have helped him anyway but when someone is hitting you, then screaming and then people from their culture are telling you to put up with the ####### like they always do, its infurtiating. Whats worse is when AMERICAN women dont stand up for an american petitioning who is being abused by lets say someone from the country your husband is from, and then blame you , it makes you insane