CALLING THEM ISLAMIC FASCISTS CAN'T HELP

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

OTHER FORMS:

Is·lamic (Adjective)

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[vartan 0]

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Where do Muslims come from? (a joke .. where do babies come from? hahah .. ok guys laugh)

[Mirorgate 0]

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

Islamic... someone that follows the faith of Islam. Muslim.. according to definition.. "Devoted unto God" or "Servant of God"

ex: That man is Islamic.

or

ex: That person is from an Islamic country.

as to your other questions. Yes it is their responsibility, or would you prefer to have the Islamic countries point at us all the time and say "See.. they war upon Islam" while trying to weed out the extremists.

oh wait....

[Alex+R 0]

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

OTHER FORMS:

Is·lamic (Adjective)

next question?

I was pretty sure that at least by journalistic standards Islamic is an adjective only for things, whereas Muslim is for people. Just don't want to turn people into things, get my drift?

note that you've got the word "adjective" listed after Islamic. Making "an Islamic" an impossible construction by your definition Charles.

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

Islamic... someone that follows the faith of Islam. Muslim.. according to definition.. "Devoted unto God" or "Servant of God"

ex: That man is Islamic.

or

ex: That person is from an Islamic country.

as to your other questions. Yes it is their responsibility, or would you prefer to have the Islamic countries point at us all the time and say "See.. they war upon Islam" while trying to weed out the extremists.

oh wait....

Ok I think it's the responsibility of Islamic countries to repress Muslim whack-jobs (I won't use "extremists" as it implies that they are somehow being faithful to the core values of Islam) but is it the responsibility of every Muslim, even Western ones, to somehow fix that problem? All they have in common is their faith.

As a Jew, am I responsible for Son of Sam?

[Mirorgate 0]

Ok I think it's the responsibility of Islamic countries to repress Muslim whack-jobs (I won't use "extremists" as it implies that they are somehow being faithful to the core values of Islam) but is it the responsibility of every Muslim, even Western ones, to somehow fix that problem? All they have in common is their faith.

As a Jew, am I responsible for Son of Sam?

Considering the major population of Muslim ppl happen to be in muslim countries (or defined as such) I thought that was self evident in my response.

why not use "extremists" as that is how they view themselves. anyone can twist anything to self justify whatever it is they want to. And no, they have more in common that just "faith", but morality and ideology as well. that are common threads associated with the "faith" but it varies. Some, as in the extremists.. take it to the extreme... hence the naming convention.

Son of Sam was just one person.. vs hundreds to thousands... not even parallel comparison.

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

OTHER FORMS:

Is·lamic (Adjective)

next question?

I was pretty sure that at least by journalistic standards Islamic is an adjective only for things, whereas Muslim is for people. Just don't want to turn people into things, get my drift?

note that you've got the word "adjective" listed after Islamic. Making "an Islamic" an impossible construction by your definition Charles.

saying an islamic is incorrect, an islamic _________ is not (you'd really flip if someone said a islamic _______)

As a Jew, am I responsible for Son of Sam?

you didn't get the memo?

[Alex+R 0]

Considering the major population of Muslim ppl happen to be in muslim countries (or defined as such) I thought that was self evident in my response.

I meant governments. And let me add other religious leaders. I don't think we should punish all Muslims by increasing prejudice against them.

why not use "extremists" as that is how they view themselves.

Why would I want to honor their definition of Islam over that of millions of innocent Muslims who've done nothing wrong?

anyone can twist anything to self justify whatever it is they want to. And no, they have more in common that just "faith", but morality and ideology as well. that are common threads associated with the "faith" but it varies. Some, as in the extremists.. take it to the extreme... hence the naming convention.

They can't have too much "morality" in common, since they approve of blowing people up. Posters like Veiled Princess Layla seem pretty "extreme" to me, and they don't condone blowing people up. This, to me, is exactly the same as calling those who spend a lot of time bastardizing the original message of the bible "fundamentalists."

And keep in mind the role of propaganda, which may have played a role in the "dancing in the streets" often mentioned when making the argument that all Muslims approved of 9/11. I doubt they're getting all the relevant information from their governments.

Son of Sam was just one person.. vs hundreds to thousands... not even parallel comparison.

Obviously not a parallel comparison. A crazy comparison to make a point.

[Ban Hammer 13,366]

And keep in mind the role of propaganda, which may have played a role in the "dancing in the streets" often mentioned when making the argument that all Muslims approved of 9/11. I doubt they're getting all the relevant information from their governments.

you don't see anyone else dancing in the streets when something muslim is blown up. maybe we should start eh?

[Alex+R 0]

And keep in mind the role of propaganda, which may have played a role in the "dancing in the streets" often mentioned when making the argument that all Muslims approved of 9/11. I doubt they're getting all the relevant information from their governments.

you don't see anyone else dancing in the streets when something muslim is blown up. maybe we should start eh?

Ah, but Charles, that's because our fine government/journalistic establishment might actually be giving us more information than theirs are. Although I have no way of knowing if that's true.

Also what is "something muslim"?

Why are we supposed to be America vs. THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION?

I still don't get it.

A surprising number of people have been inspired to kill over "Catcher in the Rye" but we don't burn that book; why do we have to assume that any other book or collection of ideas is inherently bad and that all of us should be against all followers of Islam?

As a Jew, am I responsible for Son of Sam?

you didn't get the memo?

Oh sh*t!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ok I think it's the responsibility of Islamic countries to repress Muslim whack-jobs (I won't use "extremists" as it implies that they are somehow being faithful to the core values of Islam) but is it the responsibility of every Muslim, even Western ones, to somehow fix that problem? All they have in common is their faith.

So, how about these guys in Somalia? No extremists here? Somalia, as you may be aware, is one of the breeding grounds for what you call whack jobs. Which goes back to my earlier point: The Muslim community does have a responsibility as it is within their midst that these haters are grown and groomed. But at least they started flogging women again in Somalia. Seems that we're on the road to road to recovery as those folks focus more on their faith and the core values. I'd call it violence but that's just me...

Somali woman is flogged for drugs

A Somali woman has been flogged in public for selling cannabis by Islamist militias who now control the capital.

This is the first time a woman has received this kind of punishment since the Union of Islamic Courts seized Mogadishu in June. She got 11 lashes.

Arrested for a small bundle of the drug worth $1, she pleaded innocence while being beaten, AP news agency reports.

Most sellers of the mild narcotic khat, widely used in Somalia, are women but the UIC has not opposed this trade.

The BBC's Hassan Barise in Mogadishu says women often sell khat because during the long civil war, they aroused less suspicion than men when crossing between areas controlled by rival factions.

The UIC was set up two years ago by businessmen who wanted some law and order. Somalia has not had a functioning government since 1991.

Five men were also whipped in Thursday's ceremony, in which the seized drugs were burnt.

This is only the second time that the UIC has carried out a public flogging in Mogadishu.

The UIC is divided between radicals, who want to impose a Taleban-style state in Somalia, and moderates, who say they have no such plans.

It controls much of southern Somalia, while the internationally recognised government remains confined to Baidoa, some 200km to the north of Mogadishu.

East African diplomats have been trying to bring the Islamists and the government together for talks.

BBC

[Alex+R 0]

Ok I think it's the responsibility of Islamic countries to repress Muslim whack-jobs (I won't use "extremists" as it implies that they are somehow being faithful to the core values of Islam) but is it the responsibility of every Muslim, even Western ones, to somehow fix that problem? All they have in common is their faith.

So, how about these guys in Somalia? No extremists here? Somalia, as you may be aware, is one of the breeding grounds for what you call whack jobs. Which goes back to my earlier point: The Muslim community does have a responsibility as it is within their midst that these haters are grown and groomed. But at least they started flogging women again in Somalia. Seems that we're on the road to road to recovery as those

Hi Reinhard,

I am no fan of Islamic governments ("to each his own" has its limits when you're flogging women). I'd at least like those leaders to end the popularity of suicide bombings and terrorism before we slowly dismantle assbackward Islamic regimes.

[Scott & Lai 12]

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

OTHER FORMS:

Is·lamic (Adjective)

next question?

I was pretty sure that at least by journalistic standards Islamic is an adjective only for things, whereas Muslim is for people. Just don't want to turn people into things, get my drift?

note that you've got the word "adjective" listed after Islamic. Making "an Islamic" an impossible construction by your definition Charles.

What is an "Islamic"? What is the difference between that and a Muslim?

Is it the responsability of other Muslims to rid the world of the "bad" ones?

Islamic... someone that follows the faith of Islam. Muslim.. according to definition.. "Devoted unto God" or "Servant of God"

ex: That man is Islamic.

or

ex: That person is from an Islamic country.

as to your other questions. Yes it is their responsibility, or would you prefer to have the Islamic countries point at us all the time and say "See.. they war upon Islam" while trying to weed out the extremists.

oh wait....

Ok I think it's the responsibility of Islamic countries to repress Muslim whack-jobs (I won't use "extremists" as it implies that they are somehow being faithful to the core values of Islam) but is it the responsibility of every Muslim, even Western ones, to somehow fix that problem? All they have in common is their faith.

As a Jew, am I responsible for Son of Sam?

Did "Son of Sam" commit murder in the name of Judaism? Or was he simply a Jew ethnically speaking?

More things Muslims can do to show they are peaceful and to distance themselves from fascistic ideology:

Muslim leaders throughout the world can declare the following:

"Liberty (not just "democracy") and Islam are not incompatible"

"It is forbidden for a Muslim to kill in the name of Islam, or for any reason other than self-defence"

"It is forbidden for a Muslim to attempt to force a non-Muslim to live as a Muslim"

"All non-Muslims living in a Muslim society shall have the same rights to openly practice their religion/culture as do Muslims"

"Israel and Palestine both have a right to exist side-by-side"

"Force or intimidation may not be used to spread Islam"

[vartan 0]

That guy kinda looks like a darker Dave Chapelle to me.. sorry off topic..

[Alex+R 0]

More things Muslims can do to show they are peaceful and to distance themselves from fascistic ideology:

Muslim leaders throughout the world can declare the following:

"Liberty (not just "democracy") and Islam are not incompatible"

"It is forbidden for a Muslim to kill in the name of Islam, or for any reason other than self-defence"

"It is forbidden for a Muslim to attempt to force a non-Muslim to live as a Muslim"

"All non-Muslims living in a Muslim society shall have the same rights to openly practice their religion/culture as do Muslims"

"Israel and Palestine both have a right to exist side-by-side"

"Force or intimidation may not be used to spread Islam"

That would improve the world indeed.

But it's a liiiiittle unlikely.

That guy kinda looks like a darker Dave Chapelle to me.. sorry off topic..

I don't see it, but I think it's slightly funny that the woman was a pot dealer and she's wearing tie-dye...

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'd at least like those leaders to end the popularity of suicide bombings and terrorism before we slowly dismantle assbackward Islamic regimes.

What? Which "leaders" are you talking about?