What's the value of immigration?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

gwb?

slam dunk!

[BishopM 114]

Thats weird, I interviewed with Deloitte Touche and Arthur Anderson straight out of university. They never looked at my transcripts.

They recruit me all the time now, but only because I have the pre-requisite experience (I'm old! <haha>), and I also have the minimum educational requirement: A bachelors of Science. This is one of the reasons I believe that IF a college teaches a young person HOW to think, irregardless of what is in front of them, they will, in turn, be successful. It just takes longer or shorter periods of time to reach success based on the individual themselves.

[BishopM 114]

It has already been shown that a big chunk of H-1B's are not "niche" nor is there a shortage of Americans willing and able to do the work. My opinion only, but I think once a segment of the labor force gets flooded with cheaper foreign labor it becomes unattractive to many Americans.

The flood does change the game for those already in the pool. As an example, the flood of HI-Bs in my particular market segment has created a lot of higher opportunities which didn't exist before.....................

[The_Dude 1,142]

They recruit me all the time now, but only because I have the pre-requisite experience (I'm old! <haha>), and I also have the minimum educational requirement: A bachelors of Science. This is one of the reasons I believe that IF a college teaches a young person HOW to think, irregardless of what is in front of them, they will, in turn, be successful. It just takes longer or shorter periods of time to reach success based on the individual themselves.

Oh dear god I hate that word. Even worse, I hate that american dictionaries have added it to the lexicon. Fail. >.>

[luckytxn 2,265]

When I used to need to look for new hires and it was as regular Chemists I used to get resumes from people with Doctorates and those I would just toss in the "no way" pile. It is true that when we got new graduates they needed a lot of training to get up to snuff in the particular discipline I needed. A BA in Chemistry told me that they had studied and passed tests in a certain amount of areas with enough hours that determined they had a minimum amount of knowledge to be able to come in and start training to be a Petroleum Chemist. We now had to determine which one we would hire and then start them in the basic testing and then progress through till they had then shown gotten the basic testing in each department. Then we would after about two years know where their best abilities lay and then assign them to one department to grow into as a specialist. Some would over time become a specialist in several departments and some would have the ability to barely become a specialist in one. My hopes would be that eventually they would grow and not jump to a new company but stay and become supervisors and later managers. I needed only one doctorates but was allowed two and that was so they could be my overall experts that I could send to training seminars and even give the seminars and sometimes court experts. (Judges and juries always takes the word of someone that has a doctorate)

What I gathered from the article was that we need immigration and we do badly here as our birthrate as a nation is low. We need and and want more with advanced degrees and we do. We also need in this country something that has been lacking though and that is people that honestly want the American dream. Still in this day and age to have the American dream is to work hard and save. Most people that do this becomes successful over time. Many come with more limited education but come and work many hours and many work second jobs to get that dream. Any that do this usually get that dream but quite a few go out there and start their own businesses and end up hiring people and contributing way more to a community. Strangely I see many Asians with this ability and many Hispanics.

What we don't need is illegal immigration to the extent we have allowed here. The attitude they bring is that they could care less about our laws except insofar as they don't want to get caught and sent back before they have sent enough back home to retire. They depress wages and consume more resources. I know it has been said that if we make them legal that will allow them to then have the American dream but we did this before and we still have the problem. There is a world out there and many countries and cultures that want this dream and deserve also to come here and we should be able to bring more diverse people but because of these illegals and the porous border it has made it where we have to limit the rest of the world. The best thing is for us to look at our own backyard and maybe instead of sending our jobs to Asia we maybe send them to central America or South America and let them get a taste of wealth and bring them jobs and give incentive to the illegals to go back. It is like we look East and West but never South.