ki 221(g) asking for co sponsor

[bornfree 0]

Hello all VJ member...I am so worried I just had my interview but the consul said my petitioner doesnt show enough income and they are afraid I will be a public charge so she said to asked my fiance a co sponsor and send it to the consulate as soon as possible and they will notify me to come back and drop of my passport..((( very sad they are not convince with his 12,000$ savings account...please anybody has gone through like this...any advice please I need it asap...Thank for everyone

[Nataliya-Ron 7]

How much money you have in the bank isnt the issue.!

Its you need to make the 125% of poverty for support

For 2 people you have to make $18325 yearly to meet

the standards set forth as income to support 2 PEOPLE.

and if you dont meet them the US Government requires

a co sponsor to be able to support you if something

happens until they becomes a us citizen or leaves the

country and doesnt return. The petetionier has to

complete and I-864 and also a co sponsor to make sure

they to meet the standards for being a co-sponsor.

it requirtes the co sponsor to provide 3 years back

IRS taxes returns and necessary paeprwork as part

of the I-864. And they to also need to qualify to meet

the 125% of poverty to be a co sponsor also.

GO to google and type in I-864 affiadavid of support

and the requirements to be a co sponsor

Good Luck

[thelastpetitioner 218]

How much money you have in the bank isnt the issue.!

Its you need to make the 125% of poverty for support

For 2 people you have to make $18325 yearly to meet

the standards set forth as income to support 2 PEOPLE.

and if you dont meet them the US Government requires

a co sponsor to be able to support you if something

happens until they becomes a us citizen or leaves the

country and doesnt return. The petetionier has to

complete and I-864 and also a co sponsor to make sure

they to meet the standards for being a co-sponsor.

it requirtes the co sponsor to provide 3 years back

IRS taxes returns and necessary paeprwork as part

of the I-864. And they to also need to qualify to meet

the 125% of poverty to be a co sponsor also.

GO to google and type in I-864 affiadavid of support

and the requirements to be a co sponsor

Good Luck

you really need to stop giving people advice.how much money you have in the bank IS an issue when you dont meet poverty guidelines.

from the information op has given,it seems like they went forward relaying pretty much only on the petitioners savings.

if thats the case,then its obvious,for every dollar your short of meeting the poverty guidelines,you have to have 3 in assets/savings.

also NO SPONSOR OR CO SPONSOR is required to provide 3 years prior's tax return,that depends on the consulate and its not a requirement.

also a sponsor supports a beneficiary until they become a US citizen,not until they leave the country.

you really have no clue what you are talking about

[bornfree 0]

The CO asking me to tell my fiance to find a new sponsor to fill up 2009 tax and fill up new I-134 affidavit of support that all she told me..she is nice she told me she is convinced with our relationship but the problem is hi income last year 2009 he only made $5000+ because of the depression he is a self employed...but dont make much last year ...he is doing good this year but he will fill out that tax on the early 2011...is there any hope if we get a co sponsor will they issue me a visa?is anyone has gone through this??((..

[bornfree 0]

I forgot to say I am from dubai in abu dhabi consulate, originally from philippines we got approved october 22/2010 we filed our K1 petiion on july 15 and got reciept on july 23

[Aztec&Taino 144]

I forgot to say I am from dubai in abu dhabi consulate, originally from philippines we got approved october 22/2010 we filed our K1 petiion on july 15 and got reciept on july 23

I was going to say that I did not think the Manila consulate accepted co-sponsors. If your fiance knew he did not fulfill the minimum income for last year, why didn't he secure a co-sponsor?

I think they were nice in not flat-out denying you, but giving you the opportunity to produce a co-sponsor.

Best wishes!

[jkelly07 120]

some people go to the interview the io ask to see your income, some people borrow money just before the interview,he looks at bank statements the dates,he is not conviced,any whay you need to meet 125 percent of proverty line you need to meet 18,325 for two people head of house hold, or you will need a co sponsor. good luck on that

[thelastpetitioner 218]

borrowing money doesnt help,when you get the bank statement,it shows when a deposit was made and how much it was,it cant be too suspicious

[fishegg6658 0]

Thanks alot for the wishes Aztec and Taino I am still happy we have a chance to get a cosponsor and get a visa..Good luck on yours too.God Speed!

[pushbrk 12,542]

you really need to stop giving people advice.how much money you have in the bank IS an issue when you dont meet poverty guidelines.

from the information op has given,it seems like they went forward relaying pretty much only on the petitioners savings.

if thats the case,then its obvious,for every dollar your short of meeting the poverty guidelines,you have to have 3 in assets/savings.

also NO SPONSOR OR CO SPONSOR is required to provide 3 years prior's tax return,that depends on the consulate and its not a requirement.

also a sponsor supports a beneficiary until they become a US citizen,not until they leave the country.

you really have no clue what you are talking about

I think the problem is you both only have a clue to a different part of the whole story. There's a long list of things that would end the sponsor's obligation that include both becoming a citizen and leaving the USA. There's even a potential for the sponsor to be liable until either the sponsor or sponsored immigrant dies. It's far more complicated than either of you have described.

The OP's petitioner needs a cosponsor and should consider himself extremely fortunate that the interview was not in Manila.

[JoyDee 21]

borrowing money doesnt help,when you get the bank statement,it shows when a deposit was made and how much it was,it cant be too suspicious

As long as this process takes, if you were to open a savings account early on I don't think it'd be an issue. They only need last month's statement. If you know that you won't get an NOA2 for another few months it should be OK to open a savings account now. It's all about being prepared and planning ahead.. and waiting.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

The CO asking me to tell my fiance to find a new sponsor to fill up 2009 tax and fill up new I-134 affidavit of support that all she told me..she is nice she told me she is convinced with our relationship but the problem is hi income last year 2009 he only made $5000+ because of the depression he is a self employed...but dont make much last year ...he is doing good this year but he will fill out that tax on the early 2011...is there any hope if we get a co sponsor will they issue me a visa?is anyone has gone through this??((..

In addition to the most recent year's tax return and an I-134, your co-sponsor must also submit proof that they are a US citizen or LPR, and they must be living in the United States. A copy of their US passport is sufficient proof of citizenship. If they were born in the US then a copy of their birth certificate would work. If they're a naturalized citizen then a copy of their certificate of naturalization. An LPR could send a copy of their green card.

Just to be clear, your co-sponsor's income must be 125% of the poverty guidelines for the size of their household. The household size includes themselves, anyone they claim as dependents on their tax return, anyone they provide support for, and the intending immigrant (which is you). Since the household size always includes the sponsor and the intending immigrant, the minimum household size is two people. You can read the minimum requirements here:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf

Two different people have quoted the wrong number in this thread. For a household size of two people the minimum annual income would be $18,212, unless the sponsor lives in Alaska or Hawaii, or is a member of the military on active duty. Although consulates aren't required to consider assets (like money in a savings account) with an I-134, they usually do consider them. For your fiance, assets offset income at a ratio of 3:1. This means your fiance's $12,000 savings account will make up for $4000 worth of income. Combined with the income on his tax return, he came in at $9000. This is why his affidavit was considered insufficient - it's only half the requirement for two people. The asset/income ratio for a co-sponsor who is not your current or future spouse or parent is 5:1. It's better if your fiance can find a co-sponsor who doesn't need to use assets to offset a shortage in income. It makes the decision for the consular officer simpler.

From what you've said so far, it sounds like you'll get the visa if you provide a co-sponsor with sufficient income, along with the required supporting documents. Good luck.

As long as this process takes, if you were to open a savings account early on I don't think it'd be an issue. They only need last month's statement. If you know that you won't get an NOA2 for another few months it should be OK to open a savings account now. It's all about being prepared and planning ahead.. and waiting.

This is presumptive and misleading. Consular officers have seen just about every trick in the book to sneak by on barely sufficient income, including temporarily borrowing money to get just enough assets to meet the requirements. There is an absolute requirement that the sponsor must actually own the assets, and not simply be borrowing them temporarily. They may ask for a year's worth of bank statements as evidence, or even a letter from a bank officer certifying the average balance over a year.

In addition, the OP has already been interviewed, so they are way past the NOA2 stage.

[thelastpetitioner 218]

Consular officers have seen just about every trick in the book to sneak by on barely sufficient income, including temporarily borrowing money to get just enough assets to meet the requirements.

exactly

[JoyDee 21]

exactly

Depends on the consular office. While they may ask for it eventually, they could also ask for your last ten years tax statements or any other bunch of things. (First born child?) The worst they could do is ask. My family gave me engagement gifts because they knew that this was going to be an issue for me. So what, the money arrived in the last six months.. doesn't make it any less my money.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Depends on the consular office. While they may ask for it eventually, they could also ask for your last ten years tax statements or any other bunch of things. (First born child?) The worst they could do is ask. My family gave me engagement gifts because they knew that this was going to be an issue for me. So what, the money arrived in the last six months.. doesn't make it any less my money.

There are three requirements for assets to be considered:

1. Proof of ownership.

2. Proof of value.

3. A reasonable assumption that the assets could be converted into cash within 12 months without undue hardship or financial loss to the sponsor.

With cash assets in a bank account, you've got requirements 2 and 3 nailed. Requirement #1 is a little more ambiguous. The fact that the cash is in your bank account means you have control over it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's your money which you're free to dispose of. As I said, consular officers have seen every trick possible, and there have been no shortage of petitioners who have had mom and dad slip them $10K or $20K just so they could show sufficient assets to qualify.

If the money was received as a series of gifts then it's certainly your money, but the consulate isn't required to see it this way. Remember that they have wide latitude when considering an I-134. They could simply choose to ignore the assets, and go strictly by your income. If they end up asking you for bank statements going back six months or one year then I recommend you get statements from the people who gave you gifts attesting to the fact that the money is yours and not simply a temporary loan. You can back this up with copies of the canceled checks.