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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Italy
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The law says that the LPR has to carry his green card with him/herself at all times. Excluding those times when it is physically impossible or at least very inconvenient (e.g. while taking a shower), I was wondering what the LPRs here on VJ do. do you guys keep a photocopy in your wallet and the original at home? or you really go around with the original card? I'm just scared to lose it or to have it stolen. and then getting a new one is a real - and very expensive - pain in the @$$.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Keep a copy of front and back of it at home and in my car glove box. Also have a photo of front and back on my cellphone. I keep my Greencard on my person whenever I go out in my purse(in a seperate compartment from the main area incase someone trys to nick my wallet out of it). Of course you dont need it ON you when you are at home because it is in the home with you!

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Your I-129f was approved in 5 days from your NOA1 date.

Your interview took 67 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

AOS was approved in 2 months and 8 days without interview.

ROC was approved in 3 months and 2 days without interview.

I am a Citizen of the United States of America. 04/16/13

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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My wife has a high quality copy of it in her wallet (cardstock so it's durable) and leaves the actual card at home. It may not be totally kosher, but we don't carry $400 with us ever, which is essentially what it is if it was lost. The chances of there ever being a problem with not having it are so much smaller than the chances of us losing it or it being stolen. I've never actually heard of someone getting in trouble for not having it on them that wasn't solved by a spouse bringing it from home and I've only heard of that once on tv.

AOS (from tourist w/overstay)

1/26/10 - NOA

5/04/10 - interview appt - approved

ROC

2/06/12 - NOA date

7/31/12 - card production ordered

N-400

2/08/13 - NOA date

3/05/13 - biometrics appt

6/18/13 - interview - passed!

7/18/13 - oath ceremony

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Most people leave it at home. If for any reason you are asked to show an ID, a driver's license will be more than enough. I'm not sure how that will go over in Arizona though.

From arizona, leave my greencard at home.I dont bring my greencard even when i travel to another state. I use my driver license for identification all the time.

K1 Process:

May 1, 2008 Submitted I-129F to CSC

May 8, 2008 Received by CSC

May 9, 2008 NOA1

May 18, 2008 Touched

October 9, 2008 RFE

October 28, 2008 RFE Reply

October 29, 2008 Touched

October 30, 2008 Touched

November 1, 2008 NOA2 (HardCopy)

November 11, 2008 Letter from NVC (Hardcopy)

November 14 & 17, 2008 Medical (Passed)

November 26, 2008 Interview (Passed)

December 5, 2008 Visa Received

December 23, 2008 US Entry (POE: Hawaii)

February 7, 2009 Private Wedding

AOS Process:

March 9, 2009 Mailed AOS Application via Express Mail (I-485, I-765, I-131)

March 10, 2009 USPS confirmed that AOS application was delivered and received in Chicago

March 18, 2009 Received NOA for AOS, EAD and AP

April 8, 2009 Biometrics Done

April 27, 2009 AP Approved

May 1, 2009 AP received in the mail

May 2, 2009 EAD card received in the mail

May 29, 2009 AOS interview (Approved)

June 29, 2009 GC received

ROC Process

March 1, 2011 Mailed I-175 Application via Express Mail

March 4 ,2011 NOA for I-175

April 05,2011 Biometrics [Early Biometrics March 22, 2011]

April 21,2011 Approval

April 27,2011 10 Year Green Card Received

Naturalization Process

March 6, 2012 Mailed N-400 Application via Express Mail

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Romania
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I prefer to keep the GC at home and carry a copy - front and back- in my purse.

Think about this: if you have your green card in your wallet/purse and your purse gets stolen with your wallet - you will be in big trouble, your bank cards are gone, your DL is gone and of course your GC is gone too. Now, here is the problem:

If you need to get new debit cards/credit cards , you will probaby need an ID. Ooops, it was in your wallet.

If you want to go ahead and apply for a new DL - ooops, you need proof of legal presence and that's actually your GC.

That's why I like to not carry valuable items in my purse!

My N-400 Journey

06-02-2017 - N-400 package mailed to Dallas Lockbox

06-06-2017 - Credit card charged; received text and email confirming that application was received and NOA is on its way

06-10-2017 - Received NOA letter from NBC dated 06-05-2017

06-16-2017 - Received Biometrics Appointment Letter for 06-28-2017

01-19-2018 - Interview Letter sent

02-27-18 - Interview and Oath Ceremony. Finally US CITIZEN! 

My ROC Journey

03-08-2012 - I-751 package mailed to VSC

03-10-2012 - I-751 package delivered

03-14-2012 - Check cashed

03-15-2012 - NOA received, dated 03-12-2012

04-27-2012 - Biometrics appointment

11-23-2012 - ROC approved

11-28-2012 - Approval letter received

12-06-2012 - 10 years Green Card received

My AOS Journey

04-17-09 I-130&I-485&I-765 received by USCIS

04-19-10 AOS Approved

04-29-10 Green Card received

Filed: Other Timeline
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The law says that the LPR has to carry his green card with him/herself at all times. Excluding those times when it is physically impossible or at least very inconvenient (e.g. while taking a shower), I was wondering what the LPRs here on VJ do. do you guys keep a photocopy in your wallet and the original at home? or you really go around with the original card? I'm just scared to lose it or to have it stolen. and then getting a new one is a real - and very expensive - pain in the @$.

No, you are wrong. "At all times" means just that: at all times, which includes the times when taking a shower or having sex or going out on a swim in the ocean. No exceptions. USCIS suggests to have it dangling on a chain around your neck in theses times which can be a real dealbreaker when you picked up a chick in some bar and brought her home to . . . uhhh . . .

Anyway, I always keep my card with my passport in a locked fireproof safe deposit box which is in a Steelcase cabinet in the basement of my home. I suggest you keep the card where you keep $10K cash in your house: the safest place you can think of.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Spain
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No, you are wrong. "At all times" means just that: at all times, which includes the times when taking a shower or having sex or going out on a swim in the ocean. No exceptions. USCIS suggests to have it dangling on a chain around your neck in theses times which can be a real dealbreaker when you picked up a chick in some bar and brought her home to . . . uhhh . . .

HILARIOUS! :rofl:

I think I'll show this to my wife (we were just having the same discussion last night ... right after her GC came in the mail!).

Anyway, I always keep my card with my passport in a locked fireproof safe deposit box which is in a Steelcase cabinet in the basement of my home. I suggest you keep the card where you keep $10K cash in your house: the safest place you can think of.

Thanks for this advice. We've been looking for a safe to keep our valuables in, so having the card will make us get it sooner rather than later!

Thanks, too, to the previous poster who'd recommended making a high quality copy for "everyday" use. We'll make a copy of my wife's card ASAP. After we get her SSN and driver's license, we'll keep the original in the safe (that we'll be getting soon), and only take it out for when she absolutely needs it.

Great posts! Thanks to the OP and to all who answered! :thumbs:

AJ

Our Timeline (AOS from VWP with short overstay):

Day 00: 19 Sep 2010 AOS package (I-485, I-130, I-131, I-765) sent to Chicago Lockbox

Day 18: 07 Oct 2010 Biometrics appointment letter received for 29 Oct 2010 (dated 01 Oct 2010)

Day 19: 08 Oct 2010 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 47: 05 Nov 2010 Received letter (dated 01 Nov 2010) for Interview on 07 Dec 2010

Day 68: 26 Nov 2010 I-131 TOUCHED: AP approved

Day 73: 01 Dec 2010 I-765 TOUCHED: EAD approved

Day 76: 04 Dec 2010 AP received

Day 79: 07 Dec 2010 Interview at 1 p.m. (took maybe 15 minutes): RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL!

Day 82: 10 Dec 2010 EAD received (dated 01 Dec 2010)

Day 83: 11 Dec 2010 "WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" letter received (dated 07 Dec 2010)

Day 90: 18 Dec 2010 GREEN CARD IN HAND! (dated 07 Dec 2010)


Day 000: 27 Nov 2012 ROC package (I-751) sent to California Service Center

Day 005: 03 Dec 2012 Received hard copy of NOA (dated 28 Nov 2012)

Day 244: 29 Jul 2013 Biometrics appointment letter received for 07 Aug 2013 (dated 27 Jul 2013)

Day 247: 01 Aug 2013 Walk-in biometrics (took about 25 minutes)

Day 308: 01 Oct 2013 Received approval notice for ROC (dated 24 Sep 2013)

Day 317: 10 Oct 2013 GREEN CARD IN HAND!

 

Day 000: 16 Sep 2017 N-400 filed online

Day 007: 23 Sep 2017 Biometrics appointment scheduled for 12 Oct 2017

Day 024: 10 Oct 2017 Walk-in biometrics (took about 10 minutes)

Day 059: 14 Nov 2017 Received notice that Interview scheduled for 19 Dec 2017

Day 066: 20 Nov 2017 Received hard copy of Interview notice (dated 14 Nov 2017)

Day 094: 19 Dec 2017 INTERVIEW (PASSED!)

Day 145:  08 Feb 2018 OATH CEREMONY

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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This is not a laughing matter. Follow the law. Do you really want a CBP/ICE or other Federal agent on your case?

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Italy
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This is not a laughing matter. Follow the law. Do you really want a CBP/ICE or other Federal agent on your case?

Not laughing at all, my question is damn serious. I was just asking what the other LPRs do, because I can't really believe that everybody goes around 24/7 with their green card in the wallet. Of course if I was to take a road trip or even a local flight within the US I would carry the original with me. Even more and for obvious reasons when I will go back home on vacation.

My question is more for the everyday routine, such as going to the store or to work or to the gym or to the beach or to the restaurant or etc. etc.

@JustBob:

I suspected that "At all times" meant exactly that: at all times. This morning before taking a shower I put it into a ziplock bag. In the meantime I'm trying to find where the previous tenant might have hidden his $10,000. Not because I want to put my card in the same spot, but really because I'd like to find his $10,000.

Let me ask one more question: once I have my new CA DL (6 weeks to receive the new model, I'm already 2 weeks into the wait) can I finally leave my passport at home (along with the $10,000 left by the former tenant, which I hope I will have located by then)?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Not laughing at all, my question is damn serious.
Please re-read the first three words of your opening post: "The law says." That's your answer, and THE answer.
I was just asking what the other LPRs do, because I can't really believe that everybody goes around 24/7 with their green card in the wallet.
Those who don't are potentially playing with fire, because they can be stopped at any time by a Federal agent, or by a local law-enforcement officer whose agency is part of the ICE 287g or "Secure Communities" program. We don't know and can't know if or when such interaction will occur.
My question is more for the everyday routine, such as going to the store or to work or to the gym or to the beach or to the restaurant or etc. etc.
Please re-read the first three words of your opening post: "The law says." As with every step of the visa journey, we have best results (or the fewest negative results) when we read accurately, interpret literally, and follow instructions completely.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Mexico
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As I live in San Diego County, I always carried mine with me at all times. I crossed the border regularly, and travelled as well to AZ (before the whole issue came up with AZ). I was asked for it many times at border patrol checkpoints, and by border patrol agents while waiting to get on public transportation at stops near the border.

It feels wierd opening my wallet and not seeing it anymore now that I am a US citizen, but my recomendation would be to keep it in your wallet. You just never know when you will need it.

Filed: Other Timeline
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Let me ask one more question: once I have my new CA DL (6 weeks to receive the new model, I'm already 2 weeks into the wait) can I finally leave my passport at home (along with the $10,000 left by the former tenant, which I hope I will have located by then)?

Sure.

See, in California (and all other states) the DL is your primary form of identification. You get pulled over by a cop; you will be asked to show your DL. The cop is not authorized to even inquire about your immigration status, let alone ask you to show him your GC, and that includes Arizona.

The passport is for international travel and the GC is the one document you will need to enter the US again. Hence, the GC needs to be with your passport.

I live in SoCal for close to 19 years now, have driven many times very close to the Mexican border when visiting San Diego or Escondido, the last time past Thanksgiving. I have never, ever, not once been asked for my Green Card or SS card. That said, I'm a 6'6" tall white guy with light brown hair and blue eyes, meaning nobody would mistake me for a Mexican, which is what CBP is focused on.

If I, like Angel_28 stated, were to cross the Mexican border "frequently," I would carry my card with me as well. Duuuh!

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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I have never, ever, not once been asked for my Green Card or SS card.
JB, I hope that you're never stopped and find yourself regretting that you don't have your green card with you. To all who are reading here, it's the difference between "have a nice day, sir" and "we're officially detaining you until we determine your lawful status."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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JB, I hope that you're never stopped and find yourself regretting that you don't have your green card with you. To all who are reading here, it's the difference between "have a nice day, sir" and "we're officially detaining you until we determine your lawful status."

I want to be detained.... "cuff me officerrr" ha ha

I keep my newly acquired green card in my purse with my passport, I really do not want to lose it but I'll just try my best for the next three years not to.

~~~Marriage : 2009-07-10~~~

~~~I-130 Sent : 2009-11-24~~~

~~~ Medical : 2010-09-28~~~ ~~~ MTL Interview : 2010-10-20~~~ ~~~ APPROVED~~~

~~~POE Date :2010-10-31~~~ ~~~Received SSN's 2010-11-08~~

~~~Welcome Letter/Notice Receipt :2010-11-30~~~ ~~~Received Our Green Cards 2010-12-06~~~

~~~ ROC :2012-08-20~~~ ~~~NOA1 :2012-08-28~~~ ~~~BIO :2012-09-25~~~~

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~~~Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.~~~

 
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