Judge orders woman adopted as baby deported to Mexico

[sara..... 371]

I agree. There are countless children in orphanages here in the US that are desperate to become part of a family.

America may not be #1 anymore, but for a US citizen America should still come 1^st.

Just my opinion.

One of the problems with adopting children here in the USA is that it takes so long for the children to get thru the system and be deemed as adoptable....more needs to be done here in the USA so that these children make it into good homes before they have been damaged by the very system that is there to protect them.

Some examples are the child goes to a foster home the foster mother understands she collects more money if the child has issues medical ones when they are younger finds a doctor that will agree with what symptoms she says the child has then it is entered into the child's file any adoptive family looking for a child sees a list of medical issues maybe child has maybe it doesn't but it has been documented by a doctor.

Other times it is getting the biological mother and fathers paternal rights terminated that takes a long time in most cases as the courts try to find a way for the family to stay together by offering ways for the parents to earn back their child can take years I am not saying that's a bad thing but most adoptive parents want a baby.

I have four siblings that were adopted here in the states if not for that i would not know anything about what goes on thru the state and adopting a child from the state.

im very happy my family made the choice to adopt me even given the fact that i was not in the USA

sara

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

No, one could not. In one case the gunman has every intention of using the gun if circumstanced demand it, in the other the gunman not only has no intention of harming anyone, they physically can't.

so you can identify a real gun or a fake one? you'd personally know whether the guy was bluffing or not?

no, you wouldn't. and you'd cooperate the same in either situation. and that is why the sentencing is the same, whether a real or fake gun.

[Pooky 3,794]

Conveniently leaving off the end of the sentence are we? The part that explains that the trafficking charge was filed despite the fact that she sold no pills and making it abundantly clear that she has no involvement with organized drug crime?

Typically lower socio-economic groups plead charges in order to lessen sentencing. There is zero evidence that this is some dangerous drug dealer, a huge threat to society which was your justification for her deportation.

Are you conveniently forgetting what you posted earlier? Not trying to bend the facts at all yourself, were you?

What article are you reading? She has not been accused of a serious drug change, let alone trafficking.

Trafficking does not need to involve organized crime. It is a serious crime in its own right. If she pleaded guilty to lessen her sentence, she was not well advised. That doesn't excuse her from committing the crime in the first place. The consequences of her actions still rest on her own head.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

If only we just read headlines. The thread title should read "Judge orders woman drug trafficker adopted as baby deported to Mexico."

Drug trafficker, eh?

Cohen’s woes began in 2008 when she was arrested and convicted of theft and drug trafficking. Cohen plead guilty to stealing a purse which contained two bottles of prescription pills. Even though she never sold a pill, she was charged with a drug-trafficking offense. A drug conviction is a deportable offense. So after serving her time in prison, she was taken into custody by Immigration & Customs Enforcement.

Cohen is married and has two children.

http://chavarrialawfirm.com/blog/tag/tara-ammons-cohen/

So you'd say "** you" to her kids, to somehow teach her lesson? Wow....what a vision of America you have.

[Ban Hammer 13,355]

So you'd say "** you" to her kids, to somehow teach her lesson? Wow....what a vision of America you have.

having kids does not vacate the crime.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

having kids does not vacate the crime.

You have to look at all the mitigating circumstances, including the fact that she has children. She's already served time in prison. The judge is deporting her over a technicality, ignoring the repercussions that this will cause to her and her family. It's a sad day in America when we rip families apart when it serves no purpose.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Of course she wasn't a drug trafficker, not that it matters. I think this is more properly an extreme example of laziness and procrastination of epic proportions than anything else. What were her adoptive parents thinking for 17 years and 7 months? And what was she thinking from 18 years to the present?

The fact that she has been in trouble from the get go means nothing to you.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

So this person gets arrested for petty theft and then the system just grinds her up. Technicalities are ######. Its pretty obvious that there needs to be a safety net for minors brought into the US,

[_Simpson_ 250]

Drug trafficker, eh?

I thought that it was two different incidences. Not sure how she could of got the drug trafficking charges from the theft incident.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So this person gets arrested for petty theft and then the system just grinds her up. Technicalities are ######. Its pretty obvious that there needs to be a safety net for minors brought into the US,

Yep. She didn't know that her adoptive parents never naturalized her until immigration got involved. She's 38 and has been living in American since she was 5 months old. On top of that, she's been diagnosed with a mental illness. There's no one in Mexico waiting to take her in. That immigration judge is being an #######-retentive b!tch.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I thought that it was two different incidences. Not sure how she could of got the drug trafficking charges from the theft incident.

She was charged with theft - she stole another woman's purse. The purse contained prescription drugs. She plead guilty and was convicted of both theft and drug trafficking (outrageous), even though she didn't try to sell off the prescription pills. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

[Peikko 1,575]

so you can identify a real gun or a fake one? you'd personally know whether the guy was bluffing or not?

no, you wouldn't. and you'd cooperate the same in either situation. and that is why the sentencing is the same, whether a real or fake gun.

No. However, being able to identify fake from real guns has nothing to do with what you postulated. Being able to create a sense of fear in the victims during the course of a crime quite rightly should elicit a stiffer sentence, but having the ability to carry out the threat of violence because you are actually carrying a weapon versus not being able to should elicit different sentencing as well.

When that's all tidied away, a person who carries out a pathetic crime in order to draw attention to his plight should be treated completely differently to someone who's intention is to commit a crime for personal gain. Nuance in law is absolutely necessary in order to correctly deal with those who commit crimes, anything else causes needless problems all the way around, not least in incarcerating people who would better serve society alternatively occupied.

Edited December 11, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[_Simpson_ 250]

She was charged with theft - she stole another woman's purse. The purse contained prescription drugs. She plead guilty and was convicted of both theft and drug trafficking (outrageous), even though she didn't try to sell off the prescription pills. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

I cant help to think there isn't more to this story but if this is it I must agree it stinks to high heaven.

I don't think she should be deported, I just have a hard time feeling sorry for a thief.

[Peikko 1,575]

She was charged with theft - she stole another woman's purse. The purse contained prescription drugs. She plead guilty and was convicted of both theft and drug trafficking (outrageous), even though she didn't try to sell off the prescription pills. The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

As presented, indeed it does. Lower socia-economic groups very are often penalized more severely due to having limited access to legal counsel.

[Peikko 1,575]

I cant help to think there isn't more to this story but if this is it I must agree it stinks to high heaven.

I don't think she should be deported, I just have a hard time feeling sorry for a thief.

No one is asking you to feel sorry for her, least of all the woman herself. However, to be treated fairly and humanely is something we have come to expect. Conveniently, acting humanely seems to only apply to US citizens for some posters which is far from what the US stands for.