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Only a leftist fruit could be upset about all of this.... and no I don't just mean Barney Frank ( :lol: )...

Seriously though, get over it and learn to stop spending.

Pelosi and her morons called Dems came in and LIED OUT THEIR ####### in 2006 and now they are paying for it. Had they kept their promises, had they done what they told us they were going to do, then MAYBE just maybe people would listen to them/like what they have to say. They don't have any ground to stand on though because of the filth they are.

From '07-almost '11 Dems have increased spending out the butt.

From '07-almost '11 they continue to get earmarks out the butt.

From '07-almost '11 they find every way they can to prop up BIG industries and screw over the American people..

Funny thing is, this is the ####### that accused the GOP of doing and it what got these jerk offs elected 4 years ago... Idiots.

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/08/dems.tax.plan/index.html?hpt=T1

Washington (CNN) -- House Democrats vented their frustrations with President Barack Obama's tax proposal at a closed-door meeting Tuesday night, with rank-and-file members slamming the White House for leaving House Democrats out of final negotiations, and agreeing too quickly to a GOP proposal on the estate tax.

According to several Democratic members and aides, much of the discussion centered on the addition of the estate tax exemption to the package extending all the Bush-era tax cuts for two years.

Democrats are fuming that the administration agreed to exempt inheritances up to $5 million and to set the tax rate at 35%. The estate tax is scheduled to be reinstated at a higher rate of 55% next year, with the exemption up to $1 million. A bill passed the House a year ago that set the threshold for the exemption at $3.5 million and the tax rate at 45%.

Pennsylvania Democrat Allyson Schwartz said, "My sense is people are not happy with this," telling reporters that Democrats plan to "push back at little" at the White House to try to change the estate tax back to the version that passed the House. Schwartz said if the administration agreed to do that, she could support the package, but she could not predict how many other Democrats would do the same.

Liberal Democratic Rep Anthony Weiner of New York called the estate tax provision "one of the biggest problems, because that was the one we had the most leverage on."

According to a senior House Democratic aide, Democratic Rep Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, who represented House Democrats in discussions with the administration and Republicans, said the decision to accept the GOP estate tax proposal was "an unnecessary giveaway to Kyl."

GOP Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, who was negotiating for Senate Republicans, sponsored an estate tax bill that is essentially the same as the deal outlined by Obama.

About 20 House Democrats lined up at microphones at the evening meeting to complain about the president's proposal. According to the senior Democratic aide, in addition to concerns about the substance of the proposal, equally upsetting to attendees was how "House Democrats were left out of the process at the end."

The aide added, "they view it as a trend," noting that it started with the president's stimulus package. "The House always seems to get rolled," the aide said.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "didn't really weigh in either way" during the meeting about how members should vote on the president's plan, according to the aide, "but she certainly wasn't cheerleading for it."

But Pelosi made it clear Democrats were unhappy, telling reporters outside the meeting, "I think it's fair to say that there is a certain amount of unease with the proposal that was put forth by the president." She also noted that the estate tax benefits a much smaller number of families than the middle-class tax cut.

The senior Democratic aide conceded that despite the threats to vote against the plan, it's also a reality that the proposal could still pass the House. "This gets done, but does not get done with a majority of Democratic votes," the aide said.

Vice President Joe Biden is scheduled to talk to House Democrats Wednesday afternoon. Asked whether Biden could convince Democrats to support the plan, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer quipped, "You'll have to ask him."

Hoyer didn't directly answer whether he believed House Democrats could make significant changes to the administration's plan, saying, "I think it's under discussion," but he added, "the majority of the House is still Democratic"

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Thank goodness the GOP is back. They have never spent any money or started any wars. We'll be saved. Again.

We'll be saved when some natural disaster wipes out the capitol....

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  1. From '07-almost '11 Dems have increased spending out the butt.
  2. From '07-almost '11 they continue to get earmarks out the butt.
  3. From '07-almost '11 they find every way they can to prop up BIG industries and screw over the American people..

  1. What discretionary spending have Democrats increased since 2007?
  2. Earmarks spending exploded with the GOP running Congress - there were roughly 1,500 earmarks in 1995 when the GOP took Control of Congress. By 2005 - some 10 years later, there were 14,000 earmarks. In terms of cost, earmarks went from less than $15 billion in 1995 to more than $ 30 billion in 2005. And the GOP wants to claim the high ground on earmarks? Ha.
  3. Again, try and be specific when making claims.

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  1. What discretionary spending have Democrats increased since 2007?
  2. Earmarks spending exploded with the GOP running Congress - there were roughly 1,500 earmarks in 1995 when the GOP took Control of Congress. By 2005 - some 10 years later, there were 14,000 earmarks. In terms of cost, earmarks went from less than $15 billion in 1995 to more than $ 30 billion in 2005. And the GOP wants to claim the high ground on earmarks? Ha.
  3. Again, try and be specific when making claims.

There's always more, but enough said here: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/us/politics/27civil.html

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That article says nothing in support of any of the points you raised. Absolutely nothing.

no, it only adds to them.

Were you not politically awake in 2006 to pay attention to promise after promise?

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So, you have no specifics on the claims you made. Thanks for confirming.

you playing ignorant doesn't confirm anything.

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you playing ignorant doesn't confirm anything.

1) From '07-almost '11 Dems have increased spending out the butt.

2) From '07-almost '11 they continue to get earmarks out the butt.

3) From '07-almost '11 they find every way they can to prop up BIG industries and screw over the American people..

There's your list again. I already addressed the false claim #2 pointing out that the explosion of earmarks occured while the GOP ran Congress starting in the mid '90s. I'm looking for the specific discretionary spending increases that the Dems have undertaken since 2007 and for specifics on the third claim you made. You have yet to come up with any. I took that as you saying that you can't substantiate these claims. Please prove me wrong!

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1) From '07-almost '11 Dems have increased spending out the butt.

2) From '07-almost '11 they continue to get earmarks out the butt.

3) From '07-almost '11 they find every way they can to prop up BIG industries and screw over the American people..

There's your list again. I already addressed the false claim #2 pointing out that the explosion of earmarks occured while the GOP ran Congress starting in the mid '90s. I'm looking for the specific discretionary spending increases that the Dems have undertaken since 2007 and for specifics on the third claim you made. You have yet to come up with any. I took that as you saying that you can't substantiate these claims. Please prove me wrong!

I guess you have been asleep over the last 3 years. Or, you just don't want to know. My guess is you just don't want to know. And no, I will not humor you with another cut and paste. The deficit has exploded since the dems took over. No other proof is needed.

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I guess you have been asleep over the last 3 years. Or, you just don't want to know. My guess is you just don't want to know. And no, I will not humor you with another cut and paste. The deficit has exploded since the dems took over. No other proof is needed.

We can all agree that the deficit has exploded. The GOP controlled Congress for much of this decade. Forgotten already? The GOP President came into office at the beginning of the decade inheriting a long term budget forecast that saw the debt eliminated in the not-too-far future. He and the GOP controlled Congress turned that into a situation where the forecast was that the debt would double - and that was before the economy tanked.

That aside, Paul made specific claims in regards to earmarks (false), discretionary spending (false) and some reference to Democrats siding with big business over the people. Not sure what he means by that and wanted to have some specifics.

I'm also not sure what your specific intervention in this discussion is supposed to add to it.

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Obama is the ultimate failure.

Guantanamo is still open and will not be closed. He did not end the Bush tax cuts, no climate protection, a pork fat health care bill. what a loser

VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

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Obama is the ultimate failure.

Guantanamo is still open and will not be closed. He did not end the Bush tax cuts, no climate protection, a pork fat health care bill. what a loser

The link is out of date (Mar 2010) and a lot of it is fluff, but here goes nothing...

100 Accomplishments of President Barack Obama

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