My wife's Horror Story from Guangzhou,

[g371728g 0]

Sorry to hear everything that has happened. There is not much that can be done to keep case in Guangzhou but I would recommend contacting your congressman ASAP, try to get them to intercede to keep the case there.

You might also want to contact one of the lawyers that handles a lot of cases in Guangzhou, Mark Ellis is recommended by many people.

I really appreciate all your support. I did contact my congressman already. I also contacted Mark Ellis and he gave me a speedy reply back asking me if I wanted to hire him. I will post what his course of action is for my wifes denial. Thanks again for your support.

[LDG 2]

Best wishes for you and your wife that your case will be reviewed again and something good can come out of it.

[coraliesolms 47]

I am sooo sorry for your hard times. Its good that you have contacted your congressman... send them everything they ask for, and call them every 3rd day to make sure that they are working on it!!

Good luck to you and your wife.

[lori7734 6]

Hi all you VJ’s I want to take a few moments of your time to bring everyone up to speed on everything that has transpired since my last plead for your help with my daughters situation. I have enrolled my daughter into an English school in Nanning China where she is excelling. I am so proud of her. On September 08-14-2010 my wife received her packet from Guangzhou. On September 1st 2010 at 7:15am my wife had her first interview in Guangzhou where she was ask 4 questions. These are the questions they ask her. Where is your husband? Why has your husband only been to China to see you just one time for only 62 days sense you got married? How did you meet your husband? How do you and your husband communicate with each other? My wife answered all these questions very good and she was always very polite to the VO. She was given a blue slip of paper requesting more information and said our love and marriage was not a bona fide love and marriage, which is totally BS. My wife and I were devastated by these results. My wife cried for a solid week until she was sick. I did my best to comfort her by telling her that we can fix this little problem and that it was just a little bump in our road of love. We gather up all the information they requested and a lot more and she turned it into the Consulate Guangzhou on September 17th 2010. I sent everything they requested from me to my wife by DHL the fastest way possible. Just as soon as the NVC had sent the case files to Guangzhou 05-14-2010. I sent my wife a copy of everything, the kitchen sink all 17lbs. My wife was so surprised of how much information she had setting in front of her. She got some help and started learning and studying all this information I sent to her. My wife probably knows more about all her immigration documents then I do now. On 10- 29-2010 my wife received a letter from the consulate in Guangzhou for a second interview any Monday thru Wednesday between the hours of 1:30pm to 3:00pm. I thought this was strange. This is how my wife’s second interview went. My wife approached the VO and said good morning. She works in public relations so I do know how polite she is always. The VO never acknowledges her so she thought to VO never heard her so she said good morning again in English and was ignored once again. I thought this was very rude of the VO. The VO started reading some documents and NEVER asks her ANY questions at all. The only thing the VO said to my wife was for her to go to window No 30 to get the results. These are my wife’s exact words to the VO. How could you let my lonely husband live in America alone, for no body care. My wife insisted that he tell her why she was denied and received this white slip of paper. Now she was angry and she was screaming I love my American husband and how can you do this to us. Then it got ugly the VO ask security to take my wife away. She did go but not before saying what she wanted to say so everyone could here. I know her actions were not acceptable in the Consulate, but any one of us who love our wife like I do would have done exactly the same thing if this happened to one of us. I am trying to find away for her to send a letter of apology to the Consulate, or is this something that needs to be done? My wife is probably not the first Chinese woman to loose her cool over a white denial slip. My question to everyone of you VJ’s is there any way to overcome this white slip 221(g) not a bona fide relationship which is BS? I have already called DOS the NVC, and USCIS. I was told there is nothing I can do until the case files are sent back to the CIS. Is there anyway the case files can stay at Guangzhou and this problem be solved with out sending the case back to CIS for review and possibly termination of the case? I was told by DOS that it could take up to 120 days for Guangzhou to just send the case to the CIS, which is also BS. No one cares if our wives and husbands have to wait all this time and be separated from the ones we love. My wife and I have no intention of defrauding anyone for any reason. We don’t expect anything for nothing. We try our best to do everything the right way the first time. I am still devastated by Guangzhou actions. Now I am mad and want to do something so my wife and I can be together in the States. If anyone has any suggestion please feel free to give me your help or opinion. To my wife and me it may be possibly another 6 months to a year of separation. I was told by DOS that once the case files are reviewed by CIS that they will notified me by mail of the exact reason for my wife’s denial. The CIS will give me a chance to try and prove that our love and marriage is true love and a bona fide relationship. Is this information correct that DOS told me? Or is this BS too? I have got to the point where the only ones I truly believe in any more are the good people on VJ. So please if anyone knows what I need to do now please feel free to tell me. If anyone needs or wants to discuss my situation with me just ask for my email address and I will gladly give it to you. I love my wife with all my heart and she loves me back with the same enthusiasm are even more if that is possible. Thank you for taking the time to read my plea for your help once again. Gary.

CONTACT MARC ELLIS A LAWYER

[coraliesolms 47]

Just watch out though, some congressmens offices will not help you if you have an immigration attorney... consult your congressman to make sure its ok.. if not, then you will have to decide which one you want to deal with.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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[Darnell 8,478]

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IMO - this is one of those cases where -

YOU SHOULD have snuck in an EOR with the DS-230

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[Darnell 8,478]

I really believe my wonderful wife fate was decided before her first interview. She had the kitchen sink and a lot more with her and was well prepared not to fail her interview. But even at her first interview she was not allowed to provide the VO with none of the documentation to prove to the VO our love was true and a bona fide love and marriage. My wife had all that information in her hands and well organized. The VO never allowed her to show him anything. He just handed her a blue slip of paper. I know my wife felt violated by the way she was treated by the VO. Her total time at he first interview was 3 minutes. That is the time it took for our love and lives and fate to be decided. He had ask her 4 questions. My wife answered then quickly and honest. I can't even go to a florist to pick out and buy my wife roses that quick. But our fate was decided that quick. I did fax my congressman all the information he requested all 18 full pages typed. Just to show everyone how much information that was in the kitchen sink. When my wifes case files were sent to Guangzhou. I sent 17 lbs of everything my wife and I had gathered up. And for what she was never allow to use any of it. My wife is not a bad person. She just loves her husband and wants to be with me. My wifes second interview was even shorter. It took security longer to escort her away then her entire first and second interview combined. There is nothing right the way my wifes interview was handled. My congressman suggested that my wife write a letter of apology to the Consulate for her behavior in front of everyone. I talked to my wife today about this and she agreed her behavior was unexceptable. She will write this letter. I really appriciate all of you VJ's for your support and help. I hope and pray no one has to go though the pain and embarrassment my wonderful wife had to endure. Our prayer go with everyone that has to go to Guangzhou for there interview. What worries my wife and me is what did we ever do to anyone to deserve to be treated like this. What did we do? WHY is our biggest question. Thanks again and God bless all.

This is a good example (sorry) of why to front load.

The VOs in GUZ IV read the casefile prior to the interview - and

in some VOs opinion - something was amiss.

Doesn't matter what she had in her hands that day - what matters, IMO (and others) is what the Visa Officer READ in the casefile prior to the interview date.

OK - so if yer one of the ones with a casefile currently at NVC, you can sling more relationship evidence in (reread the I-130 instructions, la, those 6 types are listed there) with the DS-230 - via EP if yer an EP case, or via postal mail if yer going postal. For a detailed write-up on this - please review http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/267559-usa-is-now-arizona/page__view__findpost__p__4100571

[Brusik 11]

What do consulates consider a bonafide marriage???

The Georgian consulate told us the only marriage they accept is through the ministry of justice..This is what we did.. They don't validate church weddings..

What I find baffling is how does Consulate or NVC expect you to visit 2-3 times after your married.

Hmmm work not going to allow extra time off, and these trips run at least 3k a pop.. I just don't understand.

Now I wonder if we should not have gone the Fiancee visa route.. It seems like less headaches

Edited January 12, 2011 by darkdancer333

[notmuch88tosay 21]

Very sorry to hear about what happened to you and your lady. There is no excuse for it whatsoever.

That's how self-serving brainless little employee Government Gods act sometimes. Still, there is never an excuse for it.

On the VisaJourney Wiki page it says:

"The Bureau is headed by a director who reports directly to the Deputy Secretary for Homeland Security."

The URL is: http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/USCIS

I would write a letter to the Deputy Secretary for Homeland Security and tell them exactly what happened, why you feel you were not treated fairly and ask them how this could happen to a tax paying U.S. citizen.

Then I would send a copy of that letter to your Congressman so he knows you are also telling others about it.

Then I would make a YouTube video about it to expose the little Government loser employee.

Hang in there,

notmuch88tosay

[notmuch88tosay 21]

Here is some info that might help, not sure...

Immigration Attorney John Roth writes:

"The U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou is a high fraud post. Shockingly, the fraud in recent years comes not primarily from the applicants, but rather from the Consulate itself...

View the full PDF here:

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,0623-roth.pdf

He also says:

"All of my clients with refused K-1 cases in Guangzhou went to China after their K-1 cases were refused, married their fiancees, and have subsequently filed I-130 and K-3 petitions for their wives."

I don't know enough about this process to know if that might be a solution for your or not. Maybe look into it if you don't already know yourself.

Good luck,

notmuch88tosay

[Darnell 8,478]

OP filed an I-130, chasing after a CR-1/IR-1 visa.