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OBX   51

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Good luck tomorrow thekfc, BigJohn and aurora07!

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USCIS

NOA1 08/19/08

NOA2 01/20/09

NVC

Received 01/26/09

Completed 02/13/09 (19 Days)

Interview Assigned 03/27/09 (6 weeks after NVC completion)

Medical

04/14/09 (Toronto)

Interview

Montreal 05/12/09 (88 days after NVC completion) **APPROVED**

POE

06/16/09 Buffalo

07/02/09 Welcome Letter Received

07/07/09 Applied for SSN

07/10/09 "Card production ordered" email received

07/13/09 SSN received

07/14/09 "Approval notice sent" email received

07/17/09 GREEN CARD received

Removal of Conditions

03/21/11 I-751 mailed to VSC

03/23/11 I-751 received at VSC

03/29/11 Cheque Cashed

03/30/11 NOA1 received (3/24/11)

04/11/11 Biometrics appointment notice received

05/05/11 Biometric appointment

12/13/11 **Approval date** (5 days short of 9 months!)

12/19/11 Approval letter and green card received

Naturalization

05/16/2019 Filed online (estimated completion February 2020)

05/18/2019 Biometrics scheduled

05/21/2019 Receipt notice and biometrics notices posted to online account.05/23/2019 Hard copy of NOA1 received

05/24/2019 Hard copy of biometrics appointment received

06/07/2019 Biometrics appointment (estimated completion January 2020)

12/31/2019 Email received "Interview scheduled"

01/01/2020 Interview date notice posted to online account (02/19/2020)

01/05/2019 Hard copy of interview appointment received

02/19/2020 Interview (**Approved**) and same day Oath Ceremony. 

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Atencio   43

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Good luck tomorrow thekfc, BigJohn and aurora07!

I know thekfc's wife is probably there right now given the 16 hour time difference. aurora07 should be there also if not all ready done.

How exciting.

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April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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I know thekfc's wife is probably there right now given the 16 hour time difference. aurora07 should be there also if not all ready done.

How exciting.

Yep my wife should be there now, she said that she was leaving home around 6am. I will find out the results tomorrow morning when I wake up - unless she calls & wake me up during the night.

USCIS

07-20-2010: I-130 package mailed.

07-22-2010: I-130 Package Received - Priority Date.

07-29-2010: Received text & email from USCIS - Notice Date.

07-30-2010: Check Cashed by USCIS.

08-02-2010: Received NOA1 hard copy.

08-02,04,05: Touched.

09-28-2010: Received text & email - petition approved.

10-04-2010: Received NOA2 hard copy.

NVC

10-13-2010: NVC Case# Received (after calling).

10-15-2010: Emailed DS-3032 to NVC.

10-16-2020: Received the DS-3032 package, IIN number & AOS bill via email.

10-22-2010: Paid AOS bill ($88) - showing IN PROCESS

10-25-2010: AOS fee PAID.

10-27-2010: Express Mail AOS Package.

10-27-2010: Paid IV bill - showing IN PROCESS.

10-28-2010: AOS package delivered.

10-28-2010: IV fee PAID.

10-29-2010: Express Mail IV package.

11-01-2010: IV package delivered.

11-08-2010: AOS packages entered into NVC system.

11-15-2010: IV package entered into NVC system.

11-23-2010: SIF.

11-24-2010: Case Complete.

CONSULATE

12-21-2010: Medical at SLMC - Passed

12-22-2010: Immunization at SLMC

01-04-2011: Interview @USEM ~ Approval

OTHER

02-05-2011: POE at JFK

N-400

05-01-2017: N-400 Sent

05-09-2017: Case accepted

05-15-2017: Biometric appointment scheduled

05-30-2017: Biometric

06-05-2017: Inline for interview

08-15-2017: Interview scheduled

09-19-2017: Interview (approved).

01-19-2018: Oath Ceremony

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Atencio   43

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Can't wait to hear the good news from those with interview date of Jan 4.

yes I agree. Thekfc, how will you be able to sleep?

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Atencio   43

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Oh no Atencio!!! I hope she is able to make it there on time and has a very uneventful trip there and back :):thumbs:

Thank you TeyaValentina and OBX.

I just talked to her and she is now in her hotel across the street from the U.S. Embassy. She will have a day to rest, I hope. She is so nervous about the interview.

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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thekfc   26

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yes I agree. Thekfc, how will you be able to sleep?

I don't think I can. :D

I am more stress now than at anytime during the process. :bonk:

USCIS

07-20-2010: I-130 package mailed.

07-22-2010: I-130 Package Received - Priority Date.

07-29-2010: Received text & email from USCIS - Notice Date.

07-30-2010: Check Cashed by USCIS.

08-02-2010: Received NOA1 hard copy.

08-02,04,05: Touched.

09-28-2010: Received text & email - petition approved.

10-04-2010: Received NOA2 hard copy.

NVC

10-13-2010: NVC Case# Received (after calling).

10-15-2010: Emailed DS-3032 to NVC.

10-16-2020: Received the DS-3032 package, IIN number & AOS bill via email.

10-22-2010: Paid AOS bill ($88) - showing IN PROCESS

10-25-2010: AOS fee PAID.

10-27-2010: Express Mail AOS Package.

10-27-2010: Paid IV bill - showing IN PROCESS.

10-28-2010: AOS package delivered.

10-28-2010: IV fee PAID.

10-29-2010: Express Mail IV package.

11-01-2010: IV package delivered.

11-08-2010: AOS packages entered into NVC system.

11-15-2010: IV package entered into NVC system.

11-23-2010: SIF.

11-24-2010: Case Complete.

CONSULATE

12-21-2010: Medical at SLMC - Passed

12-22-2010: Immunization at SLMC

01-04-2011: Interview @USEM ~ Approval

OTHER

02-05-2011: POE at JFK

N-400

05-01-2017: N-400 Sent

05-09-2017: Case accepted

05-15-2017: Biometric appointment scheduled

05-30-2017: Biometric

06-05-2017: Inline for interview

08-15-2017: Interview scheduled

09-19-2017: Interview (approved).

01-19-2018: Oath Ceremony

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Thanks John!

Glad to hear that your wife is okay and staying close to the USE right now :)

Sunny posted in the December thread about his wife's results.

Good luck to the January 4th group!!!! I hope you guys all have happy news to share with us here soon :)

*~Cr1 Journey~* CSC

-NOA 1 Receipt date: 3/1/10 (sent 2/18/10)

-Touched 4 different times in between

-APPROVED: 6/2/10

93 days from NOA1 to NOA2

-Received NVC case number: 6/9/10/10

-Gave NVC my e-mail address & e-mailed DS3032: 6/10/10

-Received NVC e-mails (DS3032 and AOS Fee)& paid AOS fee: 6/11/10

-AOS Fee shows as PAID & paid IV Bill: 6/15/10

-IV Bill shows as paid: 6/6/10

-Received IV instruction packet: 6/8/10

-Received dox from co-sponsor: 10/14/15/10

-Sent AOS package: 10/18/10

-AOS package received: 10/19/10-J.Desmond

-IV Package mailed out: 11/3/10

-AVR says I have an RFE: 11/5/10

-NVC operator told me what my RFE's are: 11/8/10

-NVC sent checklist letter (for the 2 AOS RFE's): 11/13/10

-NVC operator says the IV package has been entered: 11/18/10

-E-mailed SUE to see if that would do anything (3 diff times...): 11/29/30/10

-Sent AOS RFE's: 12/1/10

-AOS RFE's received: 12/2/10

-Checked payment portal for fun (SIF!!!!): 12/3/10

-AVR still say AOS missing info: 12/3/10

-NVC operator says case was shipped to USE in Lima: 12/3/10

-Received interview date (12/13/10): JANUARY 6th, 2011!!

-Medical: 12/21/10- Passed :)

-Interivew: 1/6/11- PASSED :D

-Visa received- 1/13/11

-POE FLL- 1/23/11 YES! BUTTTTTTT....still not reunited :'( (Reunited on the 24th)

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Hi guys, i got out of the embassy 2 hours ago and i've been APPROVED!!!!!! Yay!!! thanks to all you guys who helped and answered my queries. goodluck to the rest of you!!

January 3rd 2011

Sunny29

Ariane15

January 4th 2011

Thekfc @8:30am

BIGJOHN @7:45am

AURORA07 @6:30am - APPROVED

January 5th 2011

TABNDAN @1:00pm

ROBLU @7:00am

JON and SOL @8:30am

Dianita85 @7am

January 6th 2011

Lady_Bug @8:30am

MJ&RJ @8:30am

Atencio @8:30am

TeyaValentina@8:45am

January 7th 2011

hunniraine

January 10th 2011

IndigoSkies @8:00am

January 11th 2011

Love is patient

January 13th 2011

Koaxaca1 @9:00am

January 14th 2011

KVPandPKP

January 18th 2011

KAYO_MICHAEL @1:00pm

solteq @ 11:15am

LadyDare @ 10:00am (Lagos, Nigeria)

January 20th 2011

SHIVANI_RAJ

January 21st 2011

ADET @ 7:00am

EMPRESS07

January 25th 2011

ATST

January 26th 2011

JOENLAMY

DebbynSeyi @ 7:00am

January 27th

esd2004

Met August 8, 2007 through a common friend
Officially a couple October 2, 2007
Married November 2008
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USCIS
02/09/2010 - Receipt date on NOA1
02/16/2010 - Notice date (NOA1)
02/24/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail
04/20/2010 - Notice date (NOA2) APPROVED PETITION!
04/27/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail
NVC
04/28/2010 - AOS Bill generated
05/06/2010 - Received AOS Bill and DS-3032 in mail (New York)
05/20/2010 - Sent DS-3032 via email
05/21/2010 - Received DS-3032 form in mail (Philippines)
05/21/2010 - Paid AOS fee online
05/25/2010 - AOS fee shows PAID
05/25/2010 - NVC acknowledges DS-3032 email
05/26/2010 - IV fee generated
05/31/2010 - Paid IV fee
06/02/2010 - IV fee shows PAID
08/17/2010 - Sent AOS and DS-230 papers via 3-day air
08/25/2010 - NVC received the documents as per NVC IVR
09/18/2010 - Received checklist for I-864 forms
10/22/2010 - Sent RFE response
11/04/2010 - NVC received checklist response letter
11/14/2010 - SIF!!!! Yaaayyy!!
11/22/2010 - CC as per AVR
11/30/2010 - Received appointment letter
12/07/2010 - Medicals Day 1
12/08/2010 - Medicals Day 2 - PASSED!!!
01/04/2011 - Interview...APPROVED!!!
01/07/2011 - Received VISA
01/19/2011 - CFO Seminar
01/24/2011 - POE JFK =)

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Hi guys, i got out of the embassy 2 hours ago and i've been APPROVED!!!!!! Yay!!! thanks to all you guys who helped and answered my queries. goodluck to the rest of you!!

Congratulations aurora07!!!!!! :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:

"If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking" Buddhist Proverb

05/04/2010 Married in Nanjing

USCIS

05/25/2010 I-130 sent

05/27/2010 USPS Confirmation received - Chicago Lockbox

06/02/2010 USCIS Text, Email received, case sent to CSC, Check Cleared

06/07/2010 Touched 10/26/2010 NOA2 Notice Date

10/29/2010 Received I-797 NOA2 Approval Letter (Very Happy)

NVC

11/03/2010 NVC Received CaseFile *

11/04/2010 NVC Casefile Number Issued *

11/14/2010 Request DS-3032 Kit from NVC *

11/14/2010 IIN received via email from NVC, as part of AOS Fee Bill EMAIL.

11/09/2010 OPTIN EMAIL SENT TO NVC +

11/10/2010 AOS FEE BILL PAID ONLINE &

11/12/2010 AOS Fee Bill Marked Paid []

11/22/2010 OPTIN ACCEPTED by NVC

11/12/2010 AOS CoverSheets Generated &

11/15/2010 IV Fee Bill Showing as 'Payable' []

11/15/2010 IV FEE BILL PAID ONLINE &

11/16/2010 IV Fee Bill marked as PAID []

12/16/2010 IV CoverSheets Generated &

11/19/2010 AOS email packet sent +

11/27/2010 IV email packet sent +

12/23/2010 NVC reports 'Case Completed' *

12/23/2010 'Sign in Fail' at the Online Payment Portal &

12/30/2010 Appointment Letter Received via Email

01/27/2011 Document Day

01/28/2011 Interview Day! PINK!!!!!

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tabndan   4

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Medical passed kicking.gif yay

~Tabitha~

NVC

10-04-2010 NVC Received our file

10-12-2010 NVC case number assigned and emails provided

10-15-2010 Emailed DS-3032

10-20-2010 IIN number received; DS-3032 & AOS Bill

10-21-2010 PAID AOS FEE BILL

10-26-2010 Sent completed I-864

11-03-2010 DS-230 packet and documents sent express mail

11-08-2010 AOS Entered into NVC

11-08-2010 DS-230 Packet delivered at NVC signed by K. Peters

11-20-2010 IV entered into NVC

11-26-2010 SIF yahoooooo :)

11-30-2010 CASE COMPLETED in 57 days

12-01-2010 Interview date assigned

12-02-2010 Case forwarded to consulate

12-06-2010 Case received by consulate in Bucharest

Consulate

01-05-2011 Interview Bucharest, Romania APPROVED

01-03-2011 Medical passed

01-05-2011 VISA RECEIVED

01-13-2011 POE CHICAGO,IL. then Portland, OR. at 8:10 PM :)

02/17/2011 Welcome letter received

??/??/???? SSN received

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I wanna share my experience also. I got to US Emabassy Manila at 6 AM, (Interview sched is at 6:30AM). I got out of there at 10:30 AM. As for the pre-interview, they asked me the usual questions:

who is your petitioner? my husband

how did you meet? at a despedida dinner for a friend

when did you meet? aug. 8, 2007

who is arnold? my dad in law

who is rose? my mom in law

what do they do? ....

do you have pics? i showed her pics and she gave em back to me

have you been abroad? yes, italy, thailand, england, indonesia, malaysia, australia etc. (then she gave me a puzzled look)

were you there on vacation? no. i was a flight attendant

where were you based? in Abu Dhabi

what does your husband do? no job yet

when did he last have a job? sept 2010, before he left for the states

ok wait for your number to be called again. goodluck!

name was called for finger scanning.

number flashed for the final interview

consul was cute. haha. he asked me how i was and i asked him the same. his questions were:

when did you get married?

how long did you stay overseas?

who is arnold? what does he do exactly?

what does your husband do?

when did he move to brooklyn?

he pretty much spent most of the time typing and reading something off his screen. then he stamped my papers. read some more. then told me i'm approved.

he didn't ask for pics or any documents. i thanked him and told him he made my day. i also met a lady getting a k-1 visa, her name is lyra. she was so nice and talkative. she even shared her food with me. haha.

but yeah, it was a good experience. all i needed was my appointment letter and id. i showed my ds230 but they didn't really need it.

Met August 8, 2007 through a common friend
Officially a couple October 2, 2007
Married November 2008
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USCIS
02/09/2010 - Receipt date on NOA1
02/16/2010 - Notice date (NOA1)
02/24/2010 - Received NOA1 in mail
04/20/2010 - Notice date (NOA2) APPROVED PETITION!
04/27/2010 - Received NOA2 in mail
NVC
04/28/2010 - AOS Bill generated
05/06/2010 - Received AOS Bill and DS-3032 in mail (New York)
05/20/2010 - Sent DS-3032 via email
05/21/2010 - Received DS-3032 form in mail (Philippines)
05/21/2010 - Paid AOS fee online
05/25/2010 - AOS fee shows PAID
05/25/2010 - NVC acknowledges DS-3032 email
05/26/2010 - IV fee generated
05/31/2010 - Paid IV fee
06/02/2010 - IV fee shows PAID
08/17/2010 - Sent AOS and DS-230 papers via 3-day air
08/25/2010 - NVC received the documents as per NVC IVR
09/18/2010 - Received checklist for I-864 forms
10/22/2010 - Sent RFE response
11/04/2010 - NVC received checklist response letter
11/14/2010 - SIF!!!! Yaaayyy!!
11/22/2010 - CC as per AVR
11/30/2010 - Received appointment letter
12/07/2010 - Medicals Day 1
12/08/2010 - Medicals Day 2 - PASSED!!!
01/04/2011 - Interview...APPROVED!!!
01/07/2011 - Received VISA
01/19/2011 - CFO Seminar
01/24/2011 - POE JFK =)

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Atencio   43

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woo-hoo, congrats aurora07

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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Atencio   43

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Medical passed kicking.gif yay

Congrats

good luck on the 5th

April 24, 2010: Married in Butuan City
May 23, 2010: Submitted I-130
May 28, 2010: NOA-1 Received
October 19, 2010: NOA-2 Received
October 26, 2010: Case Number Assigned
October 28, 2010: IIN Received
November 3, 2010: AOS paid
November 5, 2010: AOS status "PAID". Sent AOS packet
November 6, 2010: DS-3032 email received. Emailed DS-3032
November 8, 2010: IV paid, DS-3032 accepted
November 10, 2010: IV status "PAID". Sent IV packet
November 15, 2010: IV received at NVC
November 22, 2010: False Checklist for missing DS-230
November 29, 2010: AOS + IV entered into system
December 4, 2010: SIF, Case Completed
December 6, 2010: Interview Scheduled
December 27-28, 2010: Passed Physical
January 6, 2011: Interview @ 0830 Approved
January 14, 2011: Visa received
January 31, 2011: CFO seminar completed
February 11, 2011: POE- LAX

Removal of Conditions
January 8, 2013: Mailed I-751
January 10,2013: NOA1
February 6, 2013: Biometrics Appoint.

June 4, 2013: Received I-797 NOA removal of conditions
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ordinarily he was insane, but he had lucid moments when he was merely stupid.

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