An investigator from U.S. Office Of Personnel Manehement Federal investigative services left a card on my door

[thongd4me 69]

developed character reference and listed character reference.

it's a phrase used within the community.

sounds very "hush hush" and "need to know" without giving a clue

to outsiders as to what either one means.

If someone asked me what the difference was between "developed child molester"

and "listed child molester" I wouldn't have a clue either.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

sounds very "hush hush" and "need to know" without giving a clue

to outsiders as to what either one means.

If someone asked me what the difference was between "developed child molester"

and "listed child molester" I wouldn't have a clue either.

maybe ask bubba at the local lockup

[thongd4me 69]

maybe ask bubba at the local lockup

What brand of hash does he smoke?

[TracyTN 237]

Thank you all. I asked my husband way before posting here. He has not applied for any government jobs. Will see if he shows up again. So it's ok for me to not open the door, yes?

You said yourself in your first post that the indication was this was about a job for one of your neighbors. Whether your hubby has applied or not is irrelevant.

Its your house - you don't have to answer the door if you're not comfortable. But I guess I don't see what the big deal is about it.

[Fandango 1,439]

You said yourself in your first post that the indication was this was about a job for one of your neighbors. Whether your hubby has applied or not is irrelevant.

Its your house - you don't have to answer the door if you're not comfortable. But I guess I don't see what the big deal is about it.

Thank God someone mentioned it!!!!

OP, go to your neighbors and ask....that's what I'd do.

[thongd4me 69]

Thank God someone mentioned it!!!!

OP, go to your neighbors and ask....that's what I'd do.

Sure you can do that, but that's just a judgment call on whether to follow

gossip that may or may not have any validity.

The first question for me would still be "are the guys who left the note really from the OPM office

or are they imposters with another agenda?" - verifying their IDs would be the first thing to do.

If this is legit and you like the neighbor they are asking about, it would be a disservice not

to put in a good word.

If you have no opinion, you can tell them that as well without disparaging his case.

If you think the person they are asking about is the scum of the earth, you are also entitled to that opinion.

If he is new in the neighborhood, it may be nobody's fault that nobody knows anything about him.

[TracyTN 237]

Gossip? Gossip being the card left on her door or?

[thongd4me 69]

Gossip? Gossip being the card left on her door or?

I was responding to this:

OP, go to your neighbors and ask....that's what I'd do.

I said nothing of the kind; by gossip I meant listening to the opinions of

other neighbors and letting that dictate how to approach the OPM request

for an interview. The only way to see if the card droppers are the real thing

is to contact the OPM. If they are the real thing, then the OP should decide

what should be said based on real knowledge. If there is none, than there

won't be anything to say to the OPM - in which case there's no need to take sides.

No one can be faulted for that.

Edited November 30, 2010 by thongd4me

[JlovesA 109]

Before I was allowed to work for the federal police force in Canada, I had to provide neighbourhood references for people who lived in my town that knew me (not necessarily well). Sounds like the same type of thing.

[TracyTN 237]

I said nothing of the kind; by gossip I meant listening to the opinions of

other neighbors and letting that dictate how to approach the OPM request

for an interview. The only way to see if the card droppers are the real thing

is to contact the OPM. If they are the real thing, then the OP should decide

what should be said based on real knowledge. If there is none, than there

won't be anything to say to the OPM - in which case there's no need to take sides.

No one can be faulted for that.

I wasn't following what you were saying.

I think Lisa means for the OP to go to her neighbors and find out from them which one has applied for a govt job. (Which would likely be faster than going through the OPM to determine the voracity.) Then the original poster would know that the card is left in the door is, indeed, legit. I don't think she meant 'get gossip about your neighbors and then tell the government the gossip'. Lisa - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I still don't see the problem in letting the govt employee tell you which neighbor it is, and then giving your opinion of that neighbor. Which may simply involve 'yeah he lives there' (if you don't really know them). But it seems the OP is really afraid to open the door for some reason. I guess that's why I have a dog.

*edited for clarity*

Edited November 30, 2010 by TracyTN

[thongd4me 69]

I wasn't following what you were saying.

I think Lisa means for the OP to go to her neighbors and find out from them which one has applied for a govt job. (Which would likely be faster than going through the OPM to determine the voracity.) Then the original poster would know that the card is left in the door is, indeed, legit. I don't think she meant 'get gossip about your neighbors and then tell the government the gossip'. Lisa - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I still don't see the problem in letting the govt employee tell you which neighbor it is, and then giving your opinion of that neighbor. Which may simply involve 'yeah he lives there' (if you don't really know them). But it seems the OP is really afraid to open the door for some reason. I guess that's why I have a dog.

*edited for clarity*

I donno.

If the OP talks to anyone except the actual neighbor who is up for the job,

they might be worried about invasion of THEIR privacy - a can of worms

best left alone. Even the neighbor up for the job might be taken aback.

Nobody wants to be a snitch and nobody wants to needlessly impact

someone else's life negatively. It also has something to do with how

well you know your neighbors; we as 3rd parties can't evaluate that.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

in most cases, the investigators don't want you to tell the person that the investigator is going to be talking to you. this protects the one the investigator is talking to in case there is negative material provided.

at the end of the interview one should be asked if they want their identify withheld or not. at the end of the investigation (not the interview) the subject (the one being investigated) can request any and all files pertaining to that investigation. if the one interviewed wanted their identity withheld, all identifying data within that one report is stripped out - which is why they were asked at the end of the interview about that.

when i undergo these things, i let the lcr's know they may be contacted. dcr's are too random to guess and inform.

[TracyTN 237]

I donno.

If the OP talks to anyone except the actual neighbor who is up for the job,

they might be worried about invasion of THEIR privacy - a can of worms

best left alone. Even the neighbor up for the job might be taken aback.

Nobody wants to be a snitch and nobody wants to needlessly impact

someone else's life negatively. It also has something to do with how

well you know your neighbors; we as 3rd parties can't evaluate that.

An invasion of whose privacy? The OP?

Its highly likely the OP won't be the only neighbor contacted, and if the neighbor up for the job doesn't know this is going on, I'd be surprised. Edited to add - if Charles' statement is true (that the investigators don't want you to tell your neighbors that you've been contacted), then it seems like a bad policy to leave a card stating you were there to ask the home owner about a neighbor.

'Snitching' -- really?? To answer questions that are asked and must be answered if the neighbor wants the job which are prompting the questions in the first place. Ok...! I guess that's just a difference in how we interpret the situation.

I still would just wait for the knock on my door anyway - which makes the issues of privacy and supposed 'snitching' irrelevant. And the OP has the right to a.) not answer the door and b.) decline to answer questions if she isn't comfortable doing so.

Edited November 30, 2010 by TracyTN

[thongd4me 69]

I wouldn't bet that comments offered to the OPM wouldn't end up in "Wikileaks"

so whatever is said (or not said), you have to choose your words carefully.

[Fandango 1,439]

I wasn't following what you were saying.

I think Lisa means for the OP to go to her neighbors and find out from them which one has applied for a govt job. (Which would likely be faster than going through the OPM to determine the voracity.) Then the original poster would know that the card is left in the door is, indeed, legit. I don't think she meant 'get gossip about your neighbors and then tell the government the gossip'. Lisa - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I still don't see the problem in letting the govt employee tell you which neighbor it is, and then giving your opinion of that neighbor. Which may simply involve 'yeah he lives there' (if you don't really know them). But it seems the OP is really afraid to open the door for some reason. I guess that's why I have a dog.

*edited for clarity*

Yeah I should have been more clear. I meant ask the neighbors 'did you apply for a job which would require a background check and a reference from me?'