NVC Gives us SECOND RFE!!

[okie26rashid 0]

Lets be patient and keep this environment friendly. All we have to do hereis to make a point and help each other.

[George & Gina 29]

If you have so much confidence in your attorney, then why exactly are you here at a DIY immigration website? I'm just wonderin....

ALL you people who say Attornies do it wrong...

Take a hike. You got proof of all of them that have

attornies all got RFE's, or you just make stupid coment

becasue you dont really know.

I bet you there are more RFE done by people doing it

them self than Attornies. But for you all that did do

it right great.

But all you that think ALL attornies are bad LET'S HOPE

you aren't DENIED and never need one becasue you have

problems. And I'm sure you will have to wait much

longer also if you made a mistake. It must be why I

see so many people come on here asking for help because

they didnt do it right the first time, having no experience.

Than if your doing it yourself, you got nobody to BLAME

BUT YOURSELF.

Than face it ...experience does make a difference

But to each his own, if you do it and dont get a RFE

I slatue YOU !

But I rather take my chances with a attorney, than not.

Anybody can try doing all the forms them self.

But if you do make a mistake than you have to be UPSET

only at yourself and your own ability to have done it

incorrectly.

I'm sure some attornies do make mistake but i would bet all my

money on a attorney than without. People doing it themself have

a MUCH HIGHER RATE of RFE...Than people who have attornies !

So let just hope you dont need and attorney and dont get a RFE.

I bet my money on and attorney that has done 2 or 3 hundred

cases than somebody who doing it their first time alone ! ! ! ! !

Maybe you luck out doing it right but there the chance you

dont also. Dont tell me experience attornies and them doing hundreds dont

mean nothing. I really dont care what you think. Let's just say

you better PRAY YOU DONT GET A RFE.

I rather take my chances on somebody who knows what they are

doing than somebody trying to do it themself and not sure or

doing it wrong. Help is available here.

Doing it right and you will have a better chance on not getting

a RFE.

Yeah is makes me laugh also when i see many here making their own

problems for not doing it right also.

Maybe they did make a mistake on their case, NOBODY PERFECT EXCEPT GOD

SO if you dont fine if you do what you going to do

JUST COMPLAIN....Join all the others with problems.

There are 10 of thousand claims being processed.

Yeah you have a right to see mistakes

But what you dont have a right if they find your MISTAKE also.

What if you were working right alone and you were them working

on a claim and you found a mistake processing your claim. Dont you

think they are pissed off also becasue you didnt or failed to do it right.

Now they have to take the time out to notify of your mistake

You thinks its fun for them, when they have to process hundreds

a week or thousands ? ? ? Everybody complains about them

They dont have a right to place the blame on you if you are

not correct also ? ? ?

Think about it or place the blame always on them right ?

They are human just like you and have rights to make mistakes also.

But what if you make the mitake are you complaing to them or looking

at yourself for YOUR OWN MISTAKE ?

Something for you to like, complain about to me or to take the blame

yourself. Your fooling nobody but yourself.

NOT ME ! NOT THEM. Make your coment but let hope i dont see any of

you in the future asking for help becasue i see you did it wrong

Than let's see who laughing too !

SO laugh all you want at yourself not me.

I will save the names of you all, and let see if you ask when or

if you ask for help or get a RFE or anything with your claim in

the future also. Thans let see ! ! ! !

I get to laugh at you all FAIR GAME BACK TO YOU No problem.

Laugh all you want you think i care until i see you have a problem.

And see who ask if they know and attorney to help them, or dont ask for one

But i bet you wife over seas wont be so happy at you either...

Will she be laughing at you ? ? Think about it for your mistake ! ! ! ! !

Having to wait longer also.

Good luck for those who dont have any in the future and for you that do

OH WELL !

[RichiJenny 14]

ALL you people who say Attornies do it wrong...

Take a hike. You got proof of all of them that have

attornies all got RFE's, or you just make stupid coment

becasue you dont really know.

I bet you there are more RFE done by people doing it

them self than Attornies. But for you all that did do

it right great.

But all you that think ALL attornies are bad LET'S HOPE

you aren't DENIED and never need one becasue you have

problems. And I'm sure you will have to wait much

longer also if you made a mistake. It must be why I

see so many people come on here asking for help because

they didnt do it right the first time, having no experience.

Than if your doing it yourself, you got nobody to BLAME

BUT YOURSELF.

Than face it ...experience does make a difference

But to each his own, if you do it and dont get a RFE

I slatue YOU !

But I rather take my chances with a attorney, than not.

Anybody can try doing all the forms them self.

But if you do make a mistake than you have to be UPSET

only at yourself and your own ability to have done it

incorrectly.

I'm sure some attornies do make mistake but i would bet all my

money on a attorney than without. People doing it themself have

a MUCH HIGHER RATE of RFE...Than people who have attornies !

So let just hope you dont need and attorney and dont get a RFE.

I bet my money on and attorney that has done 2 or 3 hundred

cases than somebody who doing it their first time alone ! ! ! ! !

Maybe you luck out doing it right but there the chance you

dont also. Dont tell me experience attornies and them doing hundreds dont

mean nothing. I really dont care what you think. Let's just say

you better PRAY YOU DONT GET A RFE.

I rather take my chances on somebody who knows what they are

doing than somebody trying to do it themself and not sure or

doing it wrong. Help is available here.

Doing it right and you will have a better chance on not getting

a RFE.

Yeah is makes me laugh also when i see many here making their own

problems for not doing it right also.

Maybe they did make a mistake on their case, NOBODY PERFECT EXCEPT GOD

SO if you dont fine if you do what you going to do

JUST COMPLAIN....Join all the others with problems.

There are 10 of thousand claims being processed.

Yeah you have a right to see mistakes

But what you dont have a right if they find your MISTAKE also.

What if you were working right alone and you were them working

on a claim and you found a mistake processing your claim. Dont you

think they are pissed off also becasue you didnt or failed to do it right.

Now they have to take the time out to notify of your mistake

You thinks its fun for them, when they have to process hundreds

a week or thousands ? ? ? Everybody complains about them

They dont have a right to place the blame on you if you are

not correct also ? ? ?

Think about it or place the blame always on them right ?

They are human just like you and have rights to make mistakes also.

But what if you make the mitake are you complaing to them or looking

at yourself for YOUR OWN MISTAKE ?

Something for you to like, complain about to me or to take the blame

yourself. Your fooling nobody but yourself.

NOT ME ! NOT THEM. Make your coment but let hope i dont see any of

you in the future asking for help becasue i see you did it wrong

Than let's see who laughing too !

SO laugh all you want at yourself not me.

I will save the names of you all, and let see if you ask when or

if you ask for help or get a RFE or anything with your claim in

the future also. Thans let see ! ! ! !

I get to laugh at you all FAIR GAME BACK TO YOU No problem.

Laugh all you want you think i care until i see you have a problem.

And see who ask if they know and attorney to help them, or dont ask for one

But i bet you wife over seas wont be so happy at you either...

Will she be laughing at you ? ? Think about it for your mistake ! ! ! ! !

Having to wait longer also.

Good luck for those who dont have any in the future and for you that do

OH WELL !

And the Academy Award for Drama / Repeating Themselves goes to.....

Take names? Are you the VisaJourney Police???

if you dont like what people do - dont get involved. Simples?!

A bit of advice, there are people more knowledgable than you could even begin to imagine, on here - and giving it 'Charlie Big Potato' and preaching about something that you know very little about, you're very likely to be politely laughed at.

Its very easy to offer an opinion, without semi-aggressively forcing an opinion in a similar way that you have done in your posts.

I should try and relax a bit, and not let the fact that SOME/MANY people dont use and attorney for immigration purposes ALL of the time.

For example - you might be surprised to learn that our case was approved in 30+ days.

We recieved an RFE (2 if you count reasons for expedite)

We didnt / dont have a straight forward case

Our case has gone through faster, than any lawyer could have expressed it. Not for the want of boasting - purely to put individuals like yourself in the correct knowledge.

Please try not to worry dear friend, that we dont all use lawyers, its really not worth getting yourself that upset over something that you cannot control.

Edited November 23, 2010 by RichiJenny

[Angel Eyes Yuseef 5]

1lovingyou2,

Calm down buddy

First of all, this IR1/CR1 process is very simple procedure and most of the people do not need attorney to do this.

When attorney needed:

1) One doesn't know the IR1/CR1 procedure clearly.

2) If one has complex cases such as previous overstay or any other complex cases.

The IR1/CR1 process is this much only for simple cases - http://www.visajourn...p/EZGuideSpouse

Loto

If it was as simple as the guide says it is, there would not be so many RFE's. I know a couple of ppl that has used the guides and have RFE"s and the letters these ppl are being sent out is almost 3 pages of things they want. The high rate of RFE's, is the changes taking place with USCIS right now. They want ever little detail of the marriages and if something did not happen they want to know why and have it notirized. And the guides need to be updated. But that is just my opinion.

[Abby62 23]

Are there really that "many" RFE's? I usually see the majority of people getting approved here pretty quickly with NO RFE's!!

I'm just sitting here thinking what I'll do with all that extra cash I saved not having to use an attorney...LOL

[RichiJenny 14]

If it was as simple as the guide says it is, there would not be so many RFE's. I know a couple of ppl that has used the guides and have RFE"s and the letters these ppl are being sent out is almost 3 pages of things they want. The high rate of RFE's, is the changes taking place with USCIS right now. They want ever little detail of the marriages and if something did not happen they want to know why and have it notirized. And the guides need to be updated. But that is just my opinion.

Fair point - however - its only a guide - you have to remember that. its not a derectorate.

VJ has no direct affilliation with USCIS or the US Govt as far as I am aware - and Ive been a member for some years. I believe the old url was www.k1faq.com

If you want or need specific information - then i suggest the uscis websites are the places to go. Here, people on the whole only offer advice and GUIDANCE. Support too.

Of course as with any message board theres always the local oddball that thinks they know it all, but you have to take the rough with the smooth.

If you get an RFE, you get an RFE. You have to - if you want to further your immigration process - deal with it. theres no point really moaning about getting one and trying to find a solution to stop it. Its simple, there isnt one, you can only do the best you can.

[Nataliya-Ron 7]

Money is NO object why do you worry about it ? ? ?

it's not your money anyway.. RIGHT !

I have much and if i could pay to get it faster i would have mine now

But since everybody else seems to have money issues and or did it

them self fine to each his own.

Who cares...seems you the people who are having the problems and

all worried when your getting approved why worry yourself.

Just sit and wait like me I dont have any RFE or any worries its you

people worring when and why havent you heard where is your NOA-2

AN so what ! ! ! Take the time they gave and just wait until the 5

months have passed and than worry not until than.

In 5 plus months or longer you'll get yours but you think everybody

is getting it in 4 months becasue it went to TSC..Maybe it will be longer

since they are back logged doing other NON I-130, I-129 IR-1/CR-1

Visa's right now. Until than wait an be patient, like all the rest of us.

ALL you Vjers calm down yourself and wait like all the rest of us the 5 months

You cant hurry them up if they have thousands to do Did you ever put

yourself in there place ? ? Than wait your turn like everybody else does

after the first of the year will pick up. August 1st filings NOA-1

will be after January 1st or longer, an so ! ! ! !

I can wait .. get excited when you get your approval, until than

chill out yourself. If I can wait I'm sure I can wait and without RFE also

or anything else. When and until approval sit tight and wait.. It seems you all are stressed out for no reason, becasue you havent heard if your NOA-2 has arrived.

wait your time like all the other 10's of thousand also.

[Henykat 16]

If it was as simple as the guide says it is, there would not be so many RFE's. I know a couple of ppl that has used the guides and have RFE"s and the letters these ppl are being sent out is almost 3 pages of things they want. The high rate of RFE's, is the changes taking place with USCIS right now. They want ever little detail of the marriages and if something did not happen they want to know why and have it notirized. And the guides need to be updated. But that is just my opinion.

These RFE's have nothing to do with the guides. It has everything to do with petitions from countries where many fraudulent immigration cases occur and fitting the typical pattern of fraudulent applications.

[RichiJenny 14]

Money is NO object why do you worry about it ? ? ?

it's not your money anyway.. RIGHT !

I have much and if i could pay to get it faster i would have mine now

But since everybody else seems to have money issues and or did it

them self fine to each his own.

Who cares...seems you the people who are having the problems and

all worried when your getting approved why worry yourself.

Just sit and wait like me I dont have any RFE or any worries its you

people worring when and why havent you heard where is your NOA-2

AN so what ! ! ! Take the time they gave and just wait until the 5

months have passed and than worry not until than.

In 5 plus months or longer you'll get yours but you think everybody

is getting it in 4 months becasue it went to TSC..Maybe it will be longer

since they are back logged doing other NON I-130, I-129 IR-1/CR-1

Visa's right now. Until than wait an be patient, like all the rest of us.

ALL you Vjers calm down yourself and wait like all the rest of us the 5 months

You cant hurry them up if they have thousands to do Did you ever put

yourself in there place ? ? Than wait your turn like everybody else does

after the first of the year will pick up. August 1st filings NOA-1

will be after January 1st or longer, an so ! ! ! !

I can wait .. get excited when you get your approval, until than

chill out yourself. If I can wait I'm sure I can wait and without RFE also

or anything else. When and until approval sit tight and wait.. It seems you all are stressed out for no reason, becasue you havent heard if your NOA-2 has arrived.

wait your time like all the other 10's of thousand also.

So you havent had an RFE, thats good.

And you're positive you wont get one, thats good too.

Confidence is a good thing.

[Matt n Shannon 3]

Whats funny is people don't understand. The RFE wasn't for incorrectly filled out forms. (what the lawyer would do) Most of you have no clue about Electronic Processing which is a pilot program we are taking part in. For what ever reason my wifes Birth Cert. wasn't accepted in its Digital Format. Many of you are ignorant to the EP process so before you comment on it educate yourself first. You'd than understand why I am so upset about the RFE. It's basically bogus. The Digital copy they got was extremely clear and legible. IT also contained all information necessary on it. It's just upsetting because I'm finding out many people who are from Canada are getting the same RFE's. It's a stall tactic.

Also for those saying not to get upset with the Customer Service, I didn't up just over all upset. I understand how a call center works, its just frustrating when there is no communication between the adjudicators and the front lines who answer the phones. Either way, we are taking care of it, one of the pluses with EP, is when you get an RFE you can immediately take care of it instead of using snail mail.

p.s.

LOL at the dude in here who said if I had a lawyer I wouldn't of gotten the RFE. As many have said the CR1 visa is very straight forward, anyone even with a basic education and reading comprehension would be able to put this together. I'm also proud to say we got all the way to this point at NVC with no RFE's. While your spending thousands on a lawyer, I'll be sitting back counting my extra cash deciding what to do with it.

[Samoray 165]

What's up

Every one grab a drink

Cheers

The Blue Hawaii is mine no one touch it

[Angelheart1962 6]

I did mine by attorney so there is no mistake it was done right

OMG THIS IS AWARDED THE MOST HILARIOUS POST OF THE DAY!!!!

You're right there! We are using an attorney and so far they have lost us a month at the start of the process because they kept sending us incorrect forms, and then we got an RFE which cost us another month because they didnt file all the correct documents. Total waste of time and money!

[Aztec&Taino 144]

This is why it's very very very important to file all your doc's correctly

IF they find ANY MISTAKE this is what can happen.

I know many people here try doing their own claim filings

but in doing so it important that you do them right.

I did mine by attorney so there is no mistake it was done right

Yes there is chance of mistake still but more likely than not

there will not be NO MISTAKE. it not about the money its about

making sure they are done compeletly right

But for you that are doing them your self it the chance you have

in taking the chance this happens.

Sorry

But good Luck and in hopes they hurry up and get your issuses

resolved and back on track soon

Good Luck to all of you in hopes you did them all correctly

100%. They have to be perfect or it's why you get a RFE !

there can be no ERROR for mistakes, this is a big issue for you.

It's the same in your country if it not done it why they

decline your issues also there.

I am glad that your attorney experience has been a positive one, yet, there have been so many members who have gotten screwed over because of mistakes their attorneys (or their attorneys' paralegals) made! Seriously, this process can be handled by an average individual who can read and follow instructions. Unless, the case is difficult (criminal records, deportations, etc.) the entire process can be handled by the individual.

To the OP, I am so sorry to hear about your RFE and the delay in your process. Hopefullly, it can be straightened out quickly and that will be the last of your "bumps" in your journey.

Best wishes!

[LotofPatience 65]

If it was as simple as the guide says it is, there would not be so many RFE's. I know a couple of ppl that has used the guides and have RFE"s and the letters these ppl are being sent out is almost 3 pages of things they want. The high rate of RFE's, is the changes taking place with USCIS right now. They want ever little detail of the marriages and if something did not happen they want to know why and have it notirized. And the guides need to be updated. But that is just my opinion.

Angel Eyes Yuseef,

Neither attorney nor the guide will prevent the RFE. In other terms, people who have followed the guide have got RFE. Also, people who have used the attorney also have got RFE.

Why? Every case is unique. There is a background check process as part of the I-130 petition and some times "innocent people" also will be stuck. Also, USCIS has their own rules to check the bona-fide relationship if the cases are from "certain countries". Everybody, including me, has to overcome this additional check to get the I-130 approval and subsequently to get the visa from the Consulate.

To me, just 2 secondary evidences (marital relationship) may be sufficient to overcome at one point of time. When I apply for next time, these 2 evidences may be insufficient and need to produce more.

So, I advise everybody to have as many evidences as needed to overcome the issues and to prove the "bona-fide marital relationship".

Footenote: If you don't have those bona-fide relationship, even the guide or attorney will also be helpless!

Loto

[LotofPatience 65]

1lovingyou2,

Responses to the highlighted ones.

Second highlight - I agree with you in that I-130 process is a long wait process and on an average it takes 4 to 6 months for the approval for "most of the people" here. So, the patience is the key. Once you fill out the forms carefully, add all the required and supporting documents to prove the sposnor's US citizenship and petitioner-beneficiary bona-fide marriage relationship, just sit tight and relax.

First highlight - You have much money to spend is good. I have much money too, but I want to spend it in different way. Also, note that having much money and attorney WILL NOT SPEED UP the I-130 approval.

Having said all these, if you or anybody use the attorney, it is perfectly fine and we are all not advising you NOT to proceed through the attorney. It is just (again just) your personal choice.

Footenote: I have completed this CR1 process before without attorney and RFE. Also, completing the IR1 process now, so far (again so far!) no RFE's or any other hiccups and have not used attorney this time as well.

Loto

Money is NO object why do you worry about it ? ? ?

it's not your money anyway.. RIGHT !

I have much and if i could pay to get it faster i would have mine now

But since everybody else seems to have money issues and or did it

them self fine to each his own.

Who cares...seems you the people who are having the problems and

all worried when your getting approved why worry yourself.

Just sit and wait like me I dont have any RFE or any worries its you

people worring when and why havent you heard where is your NOA-2

AN so what ! ! ! Take the time they gave and just wait until the 5

months have passed and than worry not until than.

In 5 plus months or longer you'll get yours but you think everybody

is getting it in 4 months becasue it went to TSC..Maybe it will be longer

since they are back logged doing other NON I-130, I-129 IR-1/CR-1

Visa's right now. Until than wait an be patient, like all the rest of us.

ALL you Vjers calm down yourself and wait like all the rest of us the 5 months

You cant hurry them up if they have thousands to do Did you ever put

yourself in there place ? ? Than wait your turn like everybody else does

after the first of the year will pick up. August 1st filings NOA-1

will be after January 1st or longer, an so ! ! ! !

I can wait .. get excited when you get your approval, until than

chill out yourself. If I can wait I'm sure I can wait and without RFE also

or anything else. When and until approval sit tight and wait.. It seems you all are stressed out for no reason, becasue you havent heard if your NOA-2 has arrived.

wait your time like all the other 10's of thousand also.

Edited November 23, 2010 by PatiencePaidOff