reconized marriage/Philippines????

[Brett-Rio 0]

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if so,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

[marriedtomrg 141]

Did she initiate the previous divorce or did her ex-husband initiate it?

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if so,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

[pushbrk 13,250]

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if so,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

Who is "they". Please give more specific details of the situation while avoiding disconnected pronouns.

[SuperDuper! 230]

Who is "they". Please give more specific details of the situation while avoiding disconnected pronouns.

It doesn't matter who "they" is. Or if the OP uses pronouns correctly.

What matters is "she." As in SHE did not get a proper annulment done of her previous marriage.

OP, if that is the case, your "wife" did not have legal capacity to marry, and you cannot file a marriage-based visa on her until her first marriage is legally annulled.

Good Luck and hang in there!

Edited November 20, 2010 by Boing!

[Inky 1,111]

OP, if that is the case, your "wife" did not have legal capacity to marry, and you cannot file a marriage-based visa on her until her first marriage is legally annulled.

Wouldnt that also mean they arent married? so they would have to have her marriage annulled then get " married again " because their first marriage would be void?

[marklovetina 52]

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if so,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

if she is divorce then who initiate the divorce?

if ur wife initiated it from her X foreign spouse then she need to file a ROFD here in the Phil court, before u both decided to marry...

if that is the case then ur marriage to her is null/ invalid... u cant file for cr1... or k1... fix ur null marriage first before u file for k1 or re-married again after u fix ur null marriage with ur wife and file for cr1...

Edited November 21, 2010 by godsgift

[pushbrk 13,250]

It doesn't matter who "they" is. Or if the OP uses pronouns correctly.

What matters is "she." As in SHE did not get a proper annulment done of her previous marriage.

OP, if that is the case, your "wife" did not have legal capacity to marry, and you cannot file a marriage-based visa on her until her first marriage is legally annulled.

Good Luck and hang in there!

You are making assumptions. I have no idea even who is the US citizen in this scenario or which "they" is not recognizing the marriage. Your assumptions may be correct but at this point, they are only assumptions.

[Atencio 43]

Yeah I agree. The OP was kind of vague in details that are important to know in order to give correct answers.

[SuperDuper! 230]

Yeah I agree. The OP was kind of vague in details that are important to know in order to give correct answers.

Its not always an assumption, and it is actually an assumption on PushyB's part to declare MINE an assumption.

What I am good at is called skilled communications and accurately interpreting what was NOT said.

There is a skill some of us have called, "Reading between the lines." Google it.

Wishing nothing but the best for us all!

[Dan and Judy 614]

What no one has come out and said, is that there is no divorce in the Philippines.

If your wife was realy married before then you are not married.

there are two countries in the world where there is no divorce and the Philippines is one of them.

The reason is the strong catholic influence. You are not married and cant get married to her.

The one obscure exception I have found is if her husband is muslim he can divorce her by saying I divorce you

three times. This exception was made to placate the muslim terrorist/ freedom fighters who dont think they

should be controled by the goverment in manila. A muslim woman can not divorce her husband in this fashion so dont bother converting her.

I went through this 20 years ago. If you look on the Filipino Kisses website about 30% of the women say they are

divorced. they are not there is no divorce in the Philippines.

since you are in this deep already; If you are lucky she married an old man when she was young. which would mean

there is a good chance he was already married to someone else before he married her and therefore their marriage is null and void. It would also increase

the chance that he has since died, meaning that she was free to marry.

You can not take her to another country to get divorced. the US will not "recognize it". they will go with the philippine law which would not recognize it. there are annulments in the Philippines generaly reserved for the rich and famous. You can probably pay a few thousand dollars and get an anaulment. There are misc grounds for anaulment like the marriage was not consumated. But more than likely she dosnt fall under any of the grounds available so you would have to pay the big money and tell a big fib. there is an excellent chance your "wife" was perfectly aware of this and with a desperation born of poverty was willing to shoot for it.

dont bother with a fiance visa she dosnt have capacity to marry.

to sum up, If she was married to a muslim man he can divorce her.

Other than that prove that her first marriage was void because the husband had a prior marriage.

or take a chance on trying to "buy" an annulment. Im not sure if you already filed or not.

If you have not filed yet you might get the idea to just not mention the marriage but the Philippines has a national marriage registry which means it would be fairly easy for the consulate to find her prior marriage even if you managed to get a certificate of no prior marriage. also if she had kids with the prIor husband that would be all over

their birth certificates. to really sum it up "YOU'VE BEEN HAD" I went to three different lawyers in the states including at least one who had offices in the Philippines, they all said you are not married and cant get married. Dan

[~happyndinlove~ 540]

What no one has come out and said, is that there is no divorce in the Philippines.

If your wife was realy married before then you are not married.

there are two countries in the world where there is no divorce and the Philippines is one of them.

The reason is the strong catholic influence. You are not married and cant get married to her.

The one obscure exception I have found is if her husband is muslim he can divorce her by saying I divorce you

three times. This exception was made to placate the muslim terrorist/ freedom fighters who dont think they

should be controled by the goverment in manila. A muslim woman can not divorce her husband in this fashion so dont bother converting her.

I went through this 20 years ago. If you look on the Filipino Kisses website about 30% of the women say they are

divorced. they are not there is no divorce in the Philippines.

since you are in this deep already; If you are lucky she married an old man when she was young. which would mean

there is a good chance he was already married to someone else before he married her and therefore their marriage is null and void. It would also increase

the chance that he has since died, meaning that she was free to marry.

You can not take her to another country to get divorced. the US will not "recognize it". they will go with the philippine law which would not recognize it. there are annulments in the Philippines generaly reserved for the rich and famous. You can probably pay a few thousand dollars and get an anaulment. There are misc grounds for anaulment like the marriage was not consumated. But more than likely she dosnt fall under any of the grounds available so you would have to pay the big money and tell a big fib. there is an excellent chance your "wife" was perfectly aware of this and with a desperation born of poverty was willing to shoot for it.

dont bother with a fiance visa she dosnt have capacity to marry.

to sum up, If she was married to a muslim man he can divorce her.

Other than that prove that her first marriage was void because the husband had a prior marriage.

or take a chance on trying to "buy" an annulment. Im not sure if you already filed or not.

If you have not filed yet you might get the idea to just not mention the marriage but the Philippines has a national marriage registry which means it would be fairly easy for the consulate to find her prior marriage even if you managed to get a certificate of no prior marriage. also if she had kids with the prIor husband that would be all over

their birth certificates. to really sum it up "YOU'VE BEEN HAD" I went to three different lawyers in the states including at least one who had offices in the Philippines, they all said you are not married and cant get married. Dan

and...blah blah blah... either 50% full of BS 100% of the time or 100% full of BS 50% of the time...either way...that was a lot of BS.

The OP has not provided enough information (yet) to determine whats the best advice.

Edited November 21, 2010 by ~happyndinlove~

[Atencio 43]

Its not always an assumption, and it is actually an assumption on PushyB's part to declare MINE an assumption.

What I am good at is called skilled communications and accurately interpreting what was NOT said.

There is a skill some of us have called, "Reading between the lines." Google it.

Wishing nothing but the best for us all!

The OP asked a serious question that could have a great impact on his life. Rather than employing your skills of assumptions I think it would be much more beneficial to the OP to have exact details to better assist him.

Edited November 21, 2010 by Atencio

[George & Gina 29]

Hey OP, how about a little more information. It's tough to come up with reasonable accurate advice without knowing more details of the situation. i.e., Is her ex-husband Muslim or was she married to a foreigner and the divorce was granted in his country?

I hope this all gets worked out for you.

George

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if so,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

[pushbrk 13,250]

Does this make sence,or is this correct?.....My wife and I married in the Philippines,but apparently,they were not notified of my wifes previous divorce"it was not recognized"...does this make our marriage null???????and if s?,do i go for fiancee visa?????GRRRR,please help!

Who is the US Citizen in this scenario. Just what "it" is not recognized by "whom"? How and where was the divorce obtained? We can help but need information first.

[jhilly143 0]

THERE IS NO DIVORCE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

i recently got married in the Philippines and in order for us to get a marriage license, my husband and i had to submit every single document from baptismal papers when we were a baby to our certificate of no marriage. What city/town did you guys get married at. And how come you and your wife didn't talk about this 'issue' prior to getting married? anyway, even if your wife's first husband has already died or they haven't had communication in years, u still need to file a petition for annulment on the grounds of ...psychological incapacity, presumption of death (u have to prove why and how. war zone? battle field, etc), bigamy, etc..

click here to know the grounds for Annulment of Marriage in the Philippines.