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Let's put this 'jump to Canada' thing to bed once and for all.

Let's assume for one second that Krikit's link wasn't true, (which it is)...which clearly says you cannot 'reset the clock' if you go to a contiguous country, let's even assume you don't run the risk of not being allowed return entry, The real, undeniable issue with jumping to Canada or Mexico to reset the clock, upon entry, you would have immigrant intent, thus being legally ineligible for AOS from VWP.

There's no getting around that. Borrow money, ask a friend to charge your plane ticket...do whatever you must to leave the country NOW, to ensure your family can be reunited legally and as quickly as possible. By staying, you're making your status issue infinitely worse at best, at worst, you will wind up with a 10 year ban.

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True words have never been spoken.

Leave the US for England ASAP, definitely before the 24th.

Have your wife file an I-130 (Petition for an alien relative) for you, her husband

Once approved you apply for a CR-1 visa in the U.K.

Once issued, you enter the US legally as a lawful permanent resident and will receive a 2-year ("conditional") Green Card.

Two years later, if you are still happily married, you remove the conditions of your residency and, once approved, get a 10-year Green Crad.

Another year later, if you are still happily married, you can file for Naturalization and become a US citizen.

Your bus leaves on the 23rd. If you miss it, you will hate yourself for it later, big time. If you can't get a flight to the UK get one to Canada and from there continue to the U.K.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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According to my knowledge you will be deported if you become illegal
Such a helpful and detailed comment!

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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. . . and an incorrect one as well, as somebody who entered the US cannot become "illegal" . . .

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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. . . and an incorrect one as well, as somebody who entered the US cannot become "illegal" . . .

someone who LEGALLY entered cannot become "illegal"

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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No person is illegal.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Nazis might be.

DON'T PANIC

"It says wonderful things about the two countries [Canada and the US] that neither one feels itself being inundated by each other's immigrants."

-Douglas Coupland

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Nazis might be.

lol... old timers or do neos count too?

Timeline Summary:

K-1/K-2 NOA1 - POE: 9 February - 9 July 2010

Married: 17 July 2010

AOS mailed - Interview : 22 November 2010 - 10 March 2011

ROC mailed - approved: 14 February - 18 June 2013

Citizenship mailed - ceremony: 9 February - 7 June 2017

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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. . . and an incorrect one as well, as somebody who entered the US cannot become "illegal" . . .

Meh. This is a game of semantics. Neither the INA nor Code of Federal Regulations define the term "illegal alien", though it's used several times in 8 CFR as a general reference to aliens without lawful presence. Several dictionaries, including Random House and Webster, define the term to apply to both EWI's and overstays. That alone should be enough to say that it would not be grammatically incorrect to refer to someone who overstays their visa as an "illegal alien".

"Illegal immigrant", on the other hand... This term does not exist in immigration law because it's an oxymoron. A person who is an "immigrant" under immigration law has lawful status. A person who is "illegal" does not. It's not possible to be both an "immigrant" and "illegal".

"Undocumented immigrant" is a politically correct euphemism used by people who are offended by the term "illegal".

12/15/2009 - K1 Visa Interview - APPROVED!

12/29/2009 - Married in Oakland, CA!

08/18/2010 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!

05/01/2013 - Removal of Conditions - APPROVED!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Scotland
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A VWP entry requires a return ticket.

Actually, Boiler, this is the one time I have to disagree. I entered Manchester, England on a VWP without a return ticket. The officers at the gate gave me hell, but they let me in the country.

Is that something the US requires?

"You don't marry someone you can live with, you marry the person you can't live without."

Mailed K-1 on 2-6-10

USCIS received packet on 2-8-10

NOA 1: Received 2-16-10

NOA 2: Approved 4-29-10 (72 Days)

NVC Forwarded Petition to London- 5-6-10

NVC Letter Received: 5-7-1010

London Received Packet: 5-14-10

London Mailed Packet to Rob: 5-18-10

Packet 3 Received by Rob: 5-22-2010

Packet 3 paperwork mailed to Rob 6-12-10

Medical- July 8, 2010

Everything mailed to Embassy 7-19-10

Interview Date: 9-14-10- Approved pending non-machine washed replacement passport.

Entry to US- 10-6-10 POE- Newark

Wedding- 10-23-10

AOS

Mailed AOS paperwork to the Chicago lockbox 1-7-11

Delivery Notification 1-10-11

Text stating application was received 1-20-11

Check Cashed 1-21-11

NOA 1 received 1-22-11

Biometrics letter received 1-29--11

Biometrics appointment 2-24-11

Received notice- I-485 has been transferred to the California Service Center 2-9-11.

3-11-11 - EAD production ordered

3-19-11- EAD Received

3-31-2011- AOS approved without interview

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Usually it is a return ticket, it could be an onward ticket. VWP requirement is to show proof of departure. B does not need that, but still a good idea.

If you had neither you were very very lucky.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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lol... old timers or do neos count too?

Lol. I was being tongue-in-cheek, but when I wrote that I was thinking particularly of the carefully worded questions on the petition and visa application forms that ask if you, during the 1940s, yada yada yada were affiliated with the fascist regime of Germany. So old timers. If there was such a thing as an illegal person, they'd be right at the top of the list. They may actually be illegal per se.

Neo nazis merely have distasteful political opinions until they break the law. Old school nazis may be illegal people, per se.

DON'T PANIC

"It says wonderful things about the two countries [Canada and the US] that neither one feels itself being inundated by each other's immigrants."

-Douglas Coupland

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