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Which major religion is peaceful and incapable of violence?

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tell that to bill o'reily :P there are extremists in many religions but that's conveniently forgotten when media only uses it in their news reports for every muslim. the word (as well as terrorists) has become synonomous in people's minds with muslim because of media... i have never once in all the news reports of serial killers, mass shootings, kidnapings, robberies, etc ever once heard "the christian man..." so first place to changing the mindset is media

Thank you for your full comment, but I want to address this specifically. I think wrt the media, if a man killed someone, or did something 'in the name of Christianity' then the religion WOULD be mentioned. WBC, abortion clinic bombers, etc would ALL mention 'Christianity'. Some random guy who happened to be Christian who murdered someone for other reasons, I don't think it would be an issue. I think we see more of the ' , a Muslim' in the media right now, because the faith that the terrorist has is directly related to the motive behind the actions...

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Well let's see, one would probably be able to infer by my comparisons and pretty much by the overall message of my post that I don't agree with those who feel that Islam is an across the board religion of violence. I think I also made my opinion on Islam crystal clear as well. What more needs to be said about that?

You're baiting in this thread...I choose to not rise to the bait. That's how I'm suggesting you deal with it. I realize it's frustrating, but what have you been trying to accomplish all these years? Do you think you're going to singlehandedly change opinion for those who aren't listening? It's obvious you're not going to do that. You are smart enough to realize that, yes?

In fact, I'd dare say that your current approach is actually solidifying anti-Muslim opinions for some.

I don't personally care what you do...fill your boots either way. But I will comment on it when I feel like it.

There are people on this thread, including yourself, who have bashed Christianity. Others have bashed organized religion as a whole. While it offends me, what can I do about it? Nothing. So instead of getting into a sh!t fling, I choose to occasionally comment, but otherwise, not engage in a religious discussion with those whom I feel will never be open to seeing a different point of view. In other words, I pick and choose my battles, and I try to prevent myself from rising to some bait on a mb.

I certainly wouldn't justify some crazy Christian's actions of bombing an abortion clinic by bringing up ancient history of other, more deplorable heinous acts as if some how it mitigates what was done. I would never put myself in a stance to defend the likes of WBC, who call themselves Christians, but to me are nothing but hate and fear mongers. I wouldn't be all 'hey, the Nazis are worse' as if that's somehow relevant, which it's not.

I've been incredibly fair here, imo..I have put myself in your shoes and realize it must be frustrating to hear such negativity about your faith. However, you're doing your faith a huge disservice with your approach lately.

Nice that you didn't respond to any other part of my post, which I think was quite fair. I think the selective silence is very telling. But eh, that's how you roll, so I'm used to it by now.

just for the record, this isnt a new thing.

reading her posts, many times i question whether she is muslim or just a theology/psychology student playing with people :rofl:

and yes, nice to see you notice that selective silence too

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Sure, Yusuf may denounce terrorism in theory but I do remember the Yusuf's I know mumbling about why 9/11 "happened for a reason" on 9/12. It's a mealy mouthed denunciation, at best. They decry the killing of innocents and then go on to say how bad the West is and how we kinda sorta deserve it - but too bad about those kids.

I can't deny that there is a lot of anger about the U.S.'s support of Israel.

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Lots of advice to the token Muslim re how to gain credibility by kissing basher azz, Little or no advice to bashers re how to stop being losers. It's clear to see who is considered to be the bad guy here coz I won't bend over, smile and keep apologizing. Also clear that none of you think your faith is peaceful. That levels the playing field despite your hypocrisy.

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I don't know enough about the movement that you're talking about.

What I'm saying is that most Muslims are as afraid of terrorists as non-Muslims are. It's easy for a non-Muslim to denounce terrorism since we are already on the sh!t list. For a Muslim, on the other hand, they would be seen as a traitor to their faith (from the perspective of a terrorist).

Sounds like an internal problem that Muslims need to resolve, before they can truly call themselves one of the great religions. But then again, dying as a true believer of a peaceful Islam would be the true test of one's faith.

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just for the record, this isnt a new thing.

reading her posts, many times i question whether she is muslim or just a theology/psychology student playing with people :rofl:

and yes, nice to see you notice that selective silence too

Silence about what? Are you Muslim?

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I can't deny that there is a lot of anger about the U.S.'s support of Israel.

Right.

While I believe that most Muslims do, in fact, disagree with terrorism, the Arab media does do their best to make sure that terrorism is always discussed in how it is related to the Israel/Palestinian debate. I think it confuses people, honestly.

You should challenge her to a Muslim-off.

Get it straight, that would be the Muslim Olympics.

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Lots of advice to the token Muslim re how to gain credibility by kissing basher azz, Little or no advice to bashers re how to stop being losers. It's clear to see who is considered to be the bad guy here coz I won't bend over, smile and keep apologizing. Also clear that none of you think your faith is peaceful. That levels the playing field despite your hypocrisy.

No one is suggesting you do any of those things. I suggested you try to discern whether your audience is capable of actually hearing you, and for you to decide whether it's worth your frustration to continually take part in this merry go round. But if you feel your time isn't worth enough to just waste it on what you call 'basher losers, knuckle dragging cretins' then by all means, go right ahead.

And I really do worry about your reading comprehension ability.

I did ask you what you were trying to achieve here, and since you've already explained that you're not trying to change opinion, then I would like to know what it is that you're trying to accomplish. Sounds like a reasonable question, and I would love an answer.

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Nab - I haven't been around here too much, so this approach of hers is new to me...thanks for the heads up.

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