Ukraine Name Change.. Oh my .......

[Noel194 53]

She is not supposed to have an Internal Passport and a green card at the same time. So yes it must be done in Ukraine but it is a violation of the rules and she could get in trouble with either the US or Ukraine government

[SMR 368]

She is not supposed to have an Internal Passport and a green card at the same time. So yes it must be done in Ukraine but it is a violation of the rules and she could get in trouble with either the US or Ukraine government

Is the Ukrainian internal passport different than the Russian internal passport? Because the Russian internal passport is something that you never really give up unless you renounce your citizenship. Also, I don't think you would really "get into trouble" with the US government. If they determine that you are not fulfilling the requirements of permanent residency, they may revoke your green card. While that would certainly spell trouble if you wanted to use the Green card, it isn't really getting into trouble in the sense of the government trying to punish you. They just determine that you are not a permanent resident and thus should not be given status as such.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

She is not supposed to have an Internal Passport and a green card at the same time. So yes it must be done in Ukraine but it is a violation of the rules and she could get in trouble with either the US or Ukraine government

In what ways is a person "in trouble"? I have an entire family of Ukrainians with internal Ukrainan passports AND green cards, one that spends 10 months of the year OUT of the USA...what is the problem? They travel back and forth to Ukraine more than once each year, we own property there...please detail the "problems" we can expect.

The US provides specific guidelines for maintaining a US residency. Specific things make you ineligible to maintain a US permanent residency. The holding of a Ukrainian internal passport is not one of them. The US couldn't possibly care less if you have a Ukrainian internal passport, Ukrainian international passport, dual citizenship, quadruple citizenship.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

She is not supposed to have an Internal Passport and a green card at the same time. So yes it must be done in Ukraine but it is a violation of the rules and she could get in trouble with either the US or Ukraine government

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Obtaining a green card is often a lengthy and stressful process. Permanent residency enables the right to legally live and work in the US; at the same time one must understand it is a privilege, which is revocable and not a right. Therefore maintaining legal permanent residency (LPR) demands allegiance to US immigration laws..

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Give your new address in writing to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) within 10 days of each time you move. See Give Your New Address to DHS for instructions.

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Where does it mention Ukrainian internal passports?

[payxibka 10,047]

She is not supposed to have an Internal Passport and a green card at the same time. So yes it must be done in Ukraine but it is a violation of the rules and she could get in trouble with either the US or Ukraine government

In trouble with the US government? How so?

[slim 1,530]

I told a woman I work with it was possible for her to be a citizen of her country (Senegal) and the US. She was dumbfounded. "Noooo. I don't think that's allowed. I can't do that." When I explained to her my wife had a red and a blue passport she said the same thing, "Oh, you better be careful. You can get in trouble."

I had to ask, "Trouble? How so?"

[Noel194 53]

The Ukraine Government is required by treaty to recognize your US marriage licenses as long as it is certified by Apostille. As far as property rights Katya is in the same situation she owns the house her mother lives in and another apartment as well. We are going back to Ukraine for Christmas and with the US Court Order changing her name certified by Apostille and the Marriage licenses certified by Apostille we can change the name on the deeds to her property and all will be OK. We must also give her mother power of attorney over the properties since she lives in Ukraine and Katya does not. This simply allows her mother to more easily deal with the untility companies and any taxes and repairs without getting Katya signature.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The Ukraine Government is required by treaty to recognize your US marriage licenses as long as it is certified by Apostille. As far as property rights Katya is in the same situation she owns the house her mother lives in and another apartment as well. We are going back to Ukraine for Christmas and with the US Court Order changing her name certified by Apostille and the Marriage licenses certified by Apostille we can change the name on the deeds to her property and all will be OK. We must also give her mother power of attorney over the properties since she lives in Ukraine and Katya does not. This simply allows her mother to more easily deal with the untility companies and any taxes and repairs without getting Katya signature.

So how, exactly does ANY of that relate to "being in trouble" with the US or Ukraine government? You occasionally come along and say these kinds of things from outer sopace and fail to ever notify those of us that may be affected of these hidden codes, laws and regulations. Please cite laws which can be of affect to us.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I told a woman I work with it was possible for her to be a citizen of her country (Senegal) and the US. She was dumbfounded. "Noooo. I don't think that's allowed. I can't do that." When I explained to her my wife had a red and a blue passport she said the same thing, "Oh, you better be careful. You can get in trouble."

I had to ask, "Trouble? How so?"

I do not know if Senegal allows dual citizenship or how well they enforce it, but the US has no trouble with it and neither does Russia.

It seems for now anyway, that Ukraine has no trouble with it either. The order to disallow dual citizenship comes from the President and the current President has not made any such order. Absent the President declaring it so, there is no automatic loss of citizenship and there is no "trouble" in any case.

[slim 1,530]

Exactly. It would be completely different if they required you to hand in your home country passport when you took the oath.

They don't. (And can't.)

[Noel194 53]

Well for starters you are violating the law of the Ukraine by maintaining your internal passport while being a permanent resident of the USA. If you were convicted of that offense in the Ukraine the US would revoke your greencard. You are not allowed to violate the laws of the USA or any other jurisdiction while you are a permanent resident. If you went to the Bahamas and were convicted of drug possession you could have your greencard revoked. Again it is not a problem until you are caught but it is illegal.

[Neonred 3,604]

Wow, things must be very different in Ukraine than in Russia. Never heard this before.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Well for starters you are violating the law of the Ukraine by maintaining your internal passport while being a permanent resident of the USA. If you were convicted of that offense in the Ukraine the US would revoke your greencard. You are not allowed to violate the laws of the USA or any other jurisdiction while you are a permanent resident. If you went to the Bahamas and were convicted of drug possession you could have your greencard revoked. Again it is not a problem until you are caught but it is illegal.

Cite the law please. Should be easy. Give us a link. I can find no such law in Ukraine.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Wow, things must be very different in Ukraine than in Russia. Never heard this before.

Neither has anyone else. Noel likes to come along with this wild stuff and say that we are all violating the law, but never specifies the law. Since he has (obviously) researched all of this and is alledgedly jumping through all sorts of hoops to be "legal" he would undoubtedly have a link to the Ukrainian law that states this. He doesn't provide it. Despite the fact that many of his fellow VJers are risking their wives Green Cards and the futures of their family because of our lack of knowledge, Noel declines to inform us so that we may protect our loved ones from being convicted and imprisoned or whatever.

Rest assured, if I could possibly find any such information I would post the details and cite the LAW, here to benefit my fellow VJers and their families.

This forum is not so our fellow members, particularly ones with families from RUB can come and say "Nyah, nyah I know something you don't"

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Well for starters you are violating the law of the Ukraine by maintaining your internal passport while being a permanent resident of the USA. If you were convicted of that offense in the Ukraine the US would revoke your greencard. You are not allowed to violate the laws of the USA or any other jurisdiction while you are a permanent resident. If you went to the Bahamas and were convicted of drug possession you could have your greencard revoked. Again it is not a problem until you are caught but it is illegal.

And very ODD that you claim to be married to a Ukrainian and knowledgable of Ukrainian law but refer to the country as "the Ukraine" That is a pretty basic faux pas. Why is it you do not know the name of the country and use a common incorrect referral to the country often used by people who know nothing of Ukraine. Strange. I cannot imagine my wife refering to her country as "the Ukraine" and have never heard her do so. Why would you?