Student fees protest: 'This is just the beginning'

[Heracles 417]

Yes these are "those" countries..... and the credit card is about Maxed.

We in the USA are about there too.

Q: when does the "Great Society" finally get up and rolling?

Maxed out? They have a deficit of 155 billion, you owed $9 trillion under GWB [r].

Australia owes $30 billion - just saying. You would have to reduce your debt to $450 billion, to be on par with them. No factor that they provide a greater number of benefits and much more in terms of welfare than the UK; ten fold whatever is given here.

[Heracles 417]

yes my company pays for it,yes it's american and i do realize that i am very fortunate that i will graduate at some point next year with zero debt. but i am here to assure you that my quarterly fees are just over 1700 per quarter which if my lousy math serves me is $6800 (and a 15.5%increase approved yesterday, and therefore imminently forthcoming) a year not inclusive of books etc so that is a significant difference from the website you are quoting and will in fact price many truly struggling students right out of college. i also realize my education is a bargain given what opportunities i believe it will afford me, doors it will open that would be shuttered without a degree. those points notwithstanding, i absolutely empathize with the frustrations of the aforementioned students (not necessarily the methods) and deal with my own daily frustrations related to inflated fees and decreased services.

A high quality education costs money to provide, so tuition fees should cost over $8K. The base tuition fees at the aforementioned uni in a state like CA, which is also flat-out bankrupt, is still unreasonably low. Students over there should be paying $13k a year and up.

Don't even get me started on illegal aliens or anchor-babies qualifying for in-state. What did you guys think is going to happen over there? That you could simply feed Mexico based on your porn industry, the gang bangers and Hollywood. Stop educating illegals and start taxing the porn industry and you may very-well be able to keep those low fees.

Edited November 12, 2010 by Heracles

[Kang Lang 7]

A high quality education costs money to provide, so tuition fees should cost over $8K. The base tuition fees at the aforementioned uni in a state like CA, which is also flat-out bankrupt, is still unreasonably low. Students over there should be paying $13k a year and up.

Don't even get me started on illegal aliens or anchor-babies qualifying for in-state. What did you guys think is going to happen over there? That you could simply feed Mexico based on your porn industry, the gang bangers and Hollywood. Stop educating illegals and start taxing the porn industry and you may very-well be able to keep those low fees.

i've no desire to get into a slinging match with you....i will say that just pulling a number out of thin air and declaring it to be what should be charged is ill informed and seemingly what these bureaucrats/autocrats/idiots do here. i've already agreed that education costs money. what the magic number is i'm unsure as i do not have a genius button in my head that tells me. i've also said more than once that in MY case (the only one i am qualified to speak on) i realise i'm fortunate to have zero debt related to my education but that new fees will in fact and are in fact pricing some people mid-uni experience right out of school. the basis for my frustration has NOTHING to do with the fees per se but with the undeniable fact that i have had to endure (as have many others) 3 more than 10% increase in fees in 18 months and at every turn they cut services and classes. i am getting much less service for much more money. even without a uni diploma that makes little sense to me. i wonder where one does pay more and get less happily other than a lipsuction clinic.

[Heracles 417]

i've no desire to get into a slinging match with you....i will say that just pulling a number out of thin air and declaring it to be what should be charged is ill informed and seemingly what these bureaucrats/autocrats/idiots do here.

Not at all actually, if schools are charging ~$9K average in the DC area, then Californian UNIs should charge at the very least $13K. I am talking about the DC area here, in actual DC schools charge up to $55K per year... Heck, we pay $9k in AUS and our schools are federally funded, which usually means lower cost. Not to mention, a blue-collar worker can easily earn over $100K there, so college is not even necessary. In fact, many who go to uni end up earning less than blue-collar workers that are in demand. I know of a guy who quit his architectural job to work as a construction site cleaner, as he is now earning $90K and works 30 hours a week and with zero stress.

First lesson of the real world, you cannot have a vehicle that drives like an Audi, at the cost of a Kia. Surely someone who works would knows this.

Edited November 12, 2010 by Heracles

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Blah blah blah.

[Heracles 417]

Blah blah blah.

I'm surprised you didn't hate on the OP for discussing a situation in the UK, oh wait he's American. Carry on..

[Kang Lang 7]

First lesson of the real world, you cannot have a vehicle that drives like an Audi, at the cost of a Kia. Surely someone who works would knows this.

insults veiled or otherwise notwithstanding i stand by all of my statements. a bit all over the map. state run schools versus private versus other countries. i can't begin to sort out and condense it all into a forum post. you have your opinion and i have mine. on to the next.

**edit...i have homework to do...while no class as small token to honor the men and women around the world who have/are serving there countries still much work to do to get that cheap education california is giving me.

Edited November 12, 2010 by Kang Lang

[Heracles 417]

insults veiled or otherwise notwithstanding i stand by all of my statements. a bit all over the map. state run schools versus private versus other countries. i can't begin to sort out and condense it all into a forum post. you have your opinion and i have mine. on to the next.

**edit...i have homework to do...while no class as small token to honor the men and women around the world who have/are serving there countries still much work to do to get that cheap education california is giving me.

What are you going to major in?

[scandal 951]

i will say that just pulling a number out of thin air and declaring it to be what should be charged is ill informed

Oh, I'm pretty sure there are numerous international studies that back it up. Why do you hate thin air?

[Kang Lang 7]

@heracles...double major, organisational communication and human resources

@scandal...i rarely actually laugh out loud at a forum post but you got me good sir! hilarious.

[SuperDuper! 230]

The Brits get a BOING! for tripling university student tuition fees!

[Heracles 417]

@heracles...double major, organisational communication and human resources

Interesting majors.

[Heracles 417]

Low blow as usual. Reported.

What's to report? Why is that offensive?

Not to mention, you just proved once again that you roam the board waiting for me to post. If you are going to report anyone, you should start with reporting yourself.

Edited November 12, 2010 by Heracles

[spookyturtle 9,465]

What's to report? Why is that offensive?

Not to mention, you just proved once again that you roam the board waiting for me to post. If you are going to report anyone, you should start with reporting yourself.

One post pointing out your well known lack of class or couth and I am stalking you? Then feel free to report me.

[Heracles 417]

One post pointing out your well known lack of class or couth and I am stalking you? Then feel free to report me.

Scandal and I dislike each other, it's nothing new. Scandal fires a smartazz comment, after many months, I fire one back. Nothing offensive about that whatsoever.

Certainly no more offensive than your consistent 'leave the country' because I dislike you comments that you post regularly on an immigration forum.

Edited November 12, 2010 by Heracles