Has anyone ever thought about how selfish Christianity is?

[tiffmal 6]

Christians are all about doing good deeds and helping people out. Why? So they can go to Heaven. They help others so that they themselves can get past the pearly gates.

What do you think?

[thelastpetitioner 218]

thats how every religion is.

but then again every god related and based religion is also about selflessness,so the motives vary depending on the person i assume

[^_^ 5,021]

Christians are all about doing good deeds and helping people out. Why? So they can go to Heaven. They help others so that they themselves can get past the pearly gates.

What do you think?

Yeah Christians are the worst. Or is that the Muslims?

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[Danno 1,228]

Christians are all about doing good deeds and helping people out. Why? So they can go to Heaven. They help others so that they themselves can get past the pearly gates.

What do you think?

I think your understanding of basic Christian theology is limited.

Christians do not "work their way into heaven".

Good works are the evidence of a Christian faith, not the cause of it.

[tiffmal 6]

I think your understanding of basic Christian theology is limited.

Christians do not "work their way into heaven".

Good works are the evidence of a Christian faith, not the cause of it.

Right but in the end, what does it all come down to? Going to heaven.

[SMOKE 1,426]

Christians are all about doing good deeds and helping people out. Why? So they can go to Heaven. They help others so that they themselves can get past the pearly gates.

What do you think?

i think you're going to hell

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Every action in life is selfish. You don't need religion for that...

There's no such thing as a 'selfless' act despite what the 'hero' mentality of society does to us.

Edited November 9, 2010 by Paul and Vanessa

[Jenn! 918]

If we think things are bad now, imagine how brutal the world would be if a majority of its inhabitants did not have the fear of hell guiding their decisions.

[tiffmal 6]

Every action in life is selfish. You don't need religion for that...

There's no such thing as a 'selfless' act despite what the 'hero' mentality of society does to us.

Interesting. So you're saying that not only are they selfish but maybe a little stupid too for believing if they do good, they will end up in a place that might not exist.

[웃 910]

I think if the fallacy of some fairy tale infinitely permanent happy ending fictional place called Heaven that Muslim/Jewish/Christian (etcetera) men created then there would be no religion at all.

If the truth was revealed that when you die you die, and if people would wake up, then what would be the point of talking to yourself inside of your mind (ie praying, ie talking with God)?

The idea of Heaven, which was created by man, is a very large incentive to either be genuinely religious or just a "pretend" religious person as 90%+ of Christians are (oh yea, I sincerely believe Jesus died for me and every night when I make my 30 second prayer I ask Jesus to cleanse me of my sins therefore I'm going to Heaven, YES!!!).

On the topic of selfishness, the ironic thing is that in Christianity, the most selfless act ever committed by God is that He brutally murdered His own Son. How does that show love? Can I really say "I love you so much that I am going to murder my only Child in a brutal and gruesome way?" How does that have anything to do with love?

Edited November 9, 2010 by Lord Infamous

[tiffmal 6]

If we think things are bad now, imagine how brutal the world would be if a majority of its inhabitants did not have the fear of hell guiding their decisions.

That is a real suck reason for people not to do bad things.

[Danno 1,228]

Right but in the end, what does it all come down to? Going to heaven.

Seems you have issues past salvation.

Let me try again.

YOu have a free ticket to fly anywhere in the world you want..... how likely is it you are going to still pay for it?

I don't mean to trivialize these issues but, your'e desire to downgrade the good works people do .......might be make more sense if go at it from the angle of:

CHristians do all this good work out of guilt, trying to repay God.

Edited November 9, 2010 by Danno

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Interesting. So you're saying that not only are they selfish but maybe a little stupid too for believing if they do good, they will end up in a place that might not exist.

I'm not saying it's stupid. I'm just saying every action in life is selfish and self-fufilling.

[tiffmal 6]

I think if the fallacy of some fairy tale infinitely permanent happy ending fictional place called Heaven that Muslim/Jewish/Christian (etcetera) men created then there would be no religion at all.

If the truth was revealed that when you die you die, and if people would wake up, then what would be the point of talking to yourself inside of your mind (ie praying, ie talking with God)?

The idea of Heaven, which was created by man, is a very large incentive to either be genuinely religious or just a "pretend" religious person as 90%+ of Christians are (oh yea, I sincerely believe Jesus died for me and every night when I make my 30 second prayer I ask Jesus to cleanse me of my sins therefore I'm going to Heaven, YES!!!).

On the topic of selfishness, the ironic thing is that in Christianity, the most selfless act ever committed by God is that He brutally murdered His own Son. How does that show love? Can I really say "I love you so much that I am going to murder my only Child in a brutal and gruesome way?" How does that have anything to do with love?

I agree. I would choose my son any day over a bunch of #### ups.

[웃 910]

If we think things are bad now, imagine how brutal the world would be if a majority of its inhabitants did not have the fear of hell guiding their decisions.

So you are saying that a fair amount of religious people would turn evil if they found out that Hell/Heaven did not exist? Maybe just me, but I don't think it would change a damn thing.

I don't steal or lie because it is wrong to do that. Not because I think I am avoiding going to Hell.

Matter of fact it would be the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you said. You would instantly have peace in the middle east. Terrorists/Jihadists would no longer exist. So much prejudice and hate would INSTANTLY disappear. I only dream that the day comes!