I-129F Adjudication Question

[Oscar and Natalie 0]

I have a question about the I-129F process. I just submitted the application for the petition. I have some things that keep running through my head. For the "proof of an on-going relationship" requirement...I submitted copies of our facebook pages where it says "in a relationship", and I've submitted letters of our intent to marry one another upon her entering the country on the K-1 visa. My question is this: is the fact that our facebook relationship status is "in a relationship" grounds for denying a I-129F petition during adjudication? I'm really nervous about this because they only make decisions based on the information provided which I feel I have done. Any thoughts?

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[Kristy S 13]

for mine, i submitted one page letters from all my close friends and employees that have seen us together, as well as from my parents verifying timelines. then submitted about 3 pages worth of phone records showing phone calls dating back over 2 years.

anyone can change a facebook status, and letters from each other doesn't really prove anything. if that's all you have then i would worry.

don't you have emails or chat logs or phone records you can show?

[Oscar and Natalie 0]

I submitted (25) pictures, facebook pages, and in one picture on facebook many friends commented that "they better get an invite to the wedding" to which Natalie replied..."absolutely no problem" somewhat further proving our intent to marry is genuine. I submitted emails, chats, tickets for trips we took in Peru, and then evidence of a trip we took to Colombia.

Thanks for the Info!!

Oscar

[Kristy S 13]

i just tried to look at mine objectively. i thought, if someone gave me this stack of info, and i'm trying to make sure they aren't just staging this to look real, would this convince me otherwise?

[Oscar and Natalie 0]

i just tried to look at mine objectively. i thought, if someone gave me this stack of info, and i'm trying to make sure they aren't just staging this to look real, would this convince me otherwise?

Well the way I look at the whole K-1 Process is you have to prove the following things with "clear and convincing evidence":

1) You've met in the last 2 years

2) You each are legally able to marry, and both have the intent to marry one another after beneficiary entering into the US on a K-1 Visa.

3) You have an on-going relationship

So I just pretty much did the exact same thing you did (took an objective look) and just made sure I satisfied all the conditions under Immigration Law.

Oscar

[John+Lourdelie 28]

In your mind you may have satisfied the letter of the law. That in no way guarantees that the the adjudicator at USCIS and/or the consular officer will feel the same way. I would never give them reason to suspect that the relationship was not real. Anyone can put what ever they want on facebook and have their friend say invite me or else. That means nothing. You should have letters, email, travel documents, phone records, chat records, money transfers, etc. As much evidence as you can muster should be used so that there is no doubt that you have a real relationship. If they say 'I don't think so' you only have yourself to blame.

John

[sjr09 155]

I believe you can never go wrong in frontloading your petition, but you have just submitted the I-129F petition. ‘Some’ photos of the two of you together, passport copy of the stamp when you entered her country, plane tickets/ itinerary, emails, phone records are fine. The real proof of bona fides will come at the time of interview.

[Kristy S 13]

and i doubt the 'in a relationship' status will really catch their eye much? i mean, an engagement is a relationship. and there are a lot of people that don't want the entire online world to know their personal info.

[sjr09 155]

and i doubt the 'in a relationship' status will really catch their eye much? i mean, an engagement is a relationship. and there are a lot of people that don't want the entire online world to know their personal info.

You may be surprised in your comment!

The U.S. Government is busily tracking social networks in a (number of ways)

http://www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2010/10/13/13readwriteweb-applying-for-us-citizenship--be-careful-who-70481.html?ref=technology

[Kristy S 13]

well, unless they are flirting with other people on their facebook or making it look like they are living the single life then i don't see a real issue. i mean, the term 'in a relationship' and 'engaged' shouldn't make or break a petition. my fiance and i didn't get officially engaged until after we filed the k1, and we sent in our letter that we didn't want to do it through the mail or over the phone, but face to face when i flew out to see him in september.

but had the government 'infiltrated' my friend lot on facebook they would have still seen that him and i were devoted to each other, with no flirting or suspect behavior on either side.

[Aztec&Taino 144]

I have a question about the I-129F process. I just submitted the application for the petition. I have some things that keep running through my head. For the "proof of an on-going relationship" requirement...I submitted copies of our facebook pages where it says "in a relationship", and I've submitted letters of our intent to marry one another upon her entering the country on the K-1 visa. My question is this: is the fact that our facebook relationship status is "in a relationship" grounds for denying a I-129F petition during adjudication? I'm really nervous about this because they only make decisions based on the information provided which I feel I have done. Any thoughts?

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You just submitted your petition. You need to give yourself a pat in the back and be prepared to wait for a long time. Don't sweat the small stuff now, particularly now that you have already sent the petition. If they need anything else from you they will send you a RFE. Just breathe and gather lots of patience, you'll need it.

Best wishes!

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Well the way I look at the whole K-1 Process is you have to prove the following things with "clear and convincing evidence":

1) You've met in the last 2 years

2) You each are legally able to marry, and both have the intent to marry one another after beneficiary entering into the US on a K-1 Visa.

3) You have an on-going relationship

So I just pretty much did the exact same thing you did (took an objective look) and just made sure I satisfied all the conditions under Immigration Law.

Oscar

Item #3 in your list is not needed to get the petition approved. You don't need to submit any proof that you have an ongoing relationship with the petition in order to get it approved. USCIS will get their chance to evaluate your relationship after you're married and submit a petition to adjust status, and again in two years when you submit a petition to remove conditions. For the petition, they just want to know you've met the minimum requirements.

The consular officer will be the first government official who will want proof of an ongoing relationship. If the consulate is known to be difficult then it might be prudent to submit some of this evidence with your petition. In order to know what to include, you need to know a lot about what your particular consulate expects. Is there some cultural or traditional requirement they expect you to meet, like meeting the beneficiary's parents or having some sort of engagement ceremony? If so, include evidence of it. If it's included with the petition then it would be difficult for them to deny it exists. Is there some glaring red flag in your case that your consulate is known to reject visa applications for? If so, explain it in your frontloaded evidence. It would be difficult for them to claim USCIS didn't know about it if it's included with the petition. Carefully planned frontloading can go a long way toward getting an approval at the interview. Tossing in piles of random evidence that neither proves a positive circumstance nor disproves a negative circumstance is largely a waste of time and postage. Consular officers don't give points for weight, and they don't spend more than 10 or 15 minutes looking over your file, so something like 10 pounds of chat transcripts would be pointless - they won't read them. Bring that bulk stuff to the interview. If they ask to see them, hand them a random sampling of your BEST stuff.

Some consulates do check your Facebook page, and they do use the information they find there. Don't bother including prints of your Facebook page. They'll look for themselves, if they want to see it. They do have internet access.