Was 9/11 an inside job?

[Pooky 3,805]

3. Cynthia McKinney (congresswoman) exposed the US funding of Al Qaeda training camps

Cynthia McKinney - making Sarah Palin look smart was her specialty

[ready4ONE 5,400]

wow you are spooky

would you rather watch cspan and military intelligence trials or comedy/fantasy shows?

So far all you have provided are links to conspiracy websites, and indicated a deep belief, in the most gullible sense of the word. If you think news articles, even from credible news organizations in the days following the 911 attacks offering conflicting and confused information add up to 'proof' of your theories then you are sadly mistaken.

PS- the US Military and Intelligence community have plans for virtually any scenario and regularly conduct drills and exercises.

PPS- it is lunacy to expect absolute truth when a Nation comes under attack. Even dumber to believe newspapers should or would be privy to active Military or Intelligence information during an attack. Disinformation is a standard component of any defense NOT anything proving complicity in the attack.

Edited November 9, 2010 by ready4ONE

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you're afraid of the truth eh?

No, no! I'm not afraid of the Truth!

Please teach me, Master!

I'm a willing student, eager to hear you speak the universal Truth!

Command me, and I shall follow you to the ends of the Earth.

Thou art truly great, godspeed.

Wicked are those on this web board who see not your wisdom and greatness.

Smite down the wicked! Smite them, and I shall be your loyal servant ever more.

:devil: :devil:

[slim 1,530]

1. Hijackers trained at US military bases;

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050407hijackersmilitarytraining911

Did you read through your own link?

If you'll notice there are several discrepancies in that story. Also, is it too much of a stretch that an Arab dude might be named Mohammed somethingorother? Is it also a stretch that maybe, just maybe, we've trained some Arabs at American military bases?

Your "well, their names are similar" argument carries about as much weight as the no-fly list that also has several Arab dudes named Mohammed. It just doesn't fly.

If you'll also notice in that very same link it said someting about several of the alleged hijackers being alive and well days after 9/11. Really?

2. There never was any evidence of WMD's - where is it? It was trumped up nonsense.

Trumped up? Have you ever heard of the Iran/Iraq war?

We know for a fact there was WMD in Iraq because we're the ones that shipped it there.

3. Cynthia McKinney (congresswoman) exposed the US funding of Al Qaeda training camps;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IK7qfHQy7M

We've long funded "terrorist" organizations for "unmentionable" causes overseas. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Hell, half the "terrorist" groups on the watchlist now were our best buddies back in the '70s and '80s. It's only after we double-crossed them or wore out our welcome that they turned on us, and rightfully so. I'd do the same thing if I were put in their position.

That's what kills me about average everyday Americans. "I don't know why they're fighting our troops. We're there to help." Yeah, you put your troops on my soil and see how that works out for you. Also, why don't I just fight off the biggest baddest army in the world and when I come home to defend my country my govt. tells me, "Well, thanks, but no thanks." I'd be pissed at the lying infidels who made that happen too.

4. Able danger provided very detailed information from within the intelligence community - not some anonymous phone calls. Cheney was told of the plane heading towards the pentagon repeatedly.

Further reading;

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html

So, let me ask you this....

Your child is walking towards a cliff and could fall off. Would you shoot him in the chest to stop it from happening or would you see if maybe, just maybe, that kid would turn around?

Also, it's pretty typical that "very detailed information from within the intelligence community" of any worth doesn't go public. I wish I had a dollar for every "detailed intelligence briefing" I had where I literally pulled out fresher and harder-hitting intel straight off of CNN.

I think it's much more likely that Israeli intelligence with their knowledge of the US exercises taking place that day and of the US intelligence community - helped provide the information to the operatives who actually carried out the attack on the WTC.

How else did cave dwellers get the codes to NSA, CIA, Navy, and Air Force intelligence communications?

This is your most semi-credible post to date.

*donning tinfoil hat* There is ONE nation that could've pulled this whole conspiracy theory off and that's Israel. I had the luxury of being just outside Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on the early morning hours of Sep. 11, 2001, and I can tell you for certain, the Saudis were caught just as much by surprise by all of this as we were. Saying the royal family was capable of contributing to this plot is like saying George Bush drew it up himself. It's just not possible.

However, if you read between the lines, all "credible" evidence of any sinister plot, other than just a strictly grass-roots Al-Qaeda job, points to Israel having a hand in it. There are just too many variables and "what if?" questions that could not be answered without an outside influence. Since the US is too inept to pull it off, the Russians too poor, the N. Koreans too isolated and the Iranians too much to lose, it had to be Israel. *throws tinfoil hat down to the floor.*

(Sorry Israel. Didn't mean anything by it. Just posting harmless conspiracy conjecture on an internet board. Please allow me to sleep in peace. Thanks.)

[웃 910]

No, no! I'm not afraid of the Truth!

Please teach me, Master!

I'm a willing student, eager to hear you speak the universal Truth!

Command me, and I shall follow you to the ends of the Earth.

Thou art truly great, godspeed.

Wicked are those on this web board who see not your wisdom and greatness.

Smite down the wicked! Smite them, and I shall be your loyal servant ever more.

:devil: :devil:

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Cynthia McKinney - making Sarah Palin look smart was her specialty

She was helpful getting the public admition that the government financed these militant training camps for what is now Al Qaeda.

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So far all you have provided are links to conspiracy websites, and indicated a deep belief, in the most gullible sense of the word. If you think news articles, even from credible news organizations in the days following the 911 attacks offering conflicting and confused information add up to 'proof' of your theories then you are sadly mistaken.

PS- the US Military and Intelligence community have plans for virtually any scenario and regularly conduct drills and exercises.

PPS- it is lunacy to expect absolute truth when a Nation comes under attack. Even dumber to believe newspapers should or would be privy to active Military or Intelligence information during an attack. Disinformation is a standard component of any defense NOT anything proving complicity in the attack.

Links to conspiracy sites are sources for you to read up on, the amount of information out there is not anything that could be condensed into a forum topic.

Agreed, they aren't going to give you the truth, the 9-11 comission was a blatant coverup.

There are so many examples of facts which point to US government and Israeli intelligence involvement in the events on 9-11.

The fact that the buildings were pre-wired to be demolished and that they were conducting training exercises for just that scenario on that day - very strange don't you think?

Facts like these comprise a long list, extremely long. Once you learn these facts, you will undoubtedly look towards the US government.

To say that the US was just inept is lunacy. There were specific warnings from multiple sources that the government would normally listen to.

Why do you think ####### Cheney told the US military to ignore the plane heading for the pentagon?

do you think the terrorists were able to find out about top secret training exercises on that day on their own?

Who has been caught spying on the US most of all our allies? Israel.

Israel wanted to get us on their side and I have a hard time believing that the US was simply inept.

So inept that they wired the buildings with thermite in advance huh?

To believe in the 9-11 comission report is gullibility to the extreme.

Believing the official lie is just stupid. Look at the past, government always lies and uses citizens as pawns.

Do you think it's smart to believe in government?

Do you think big brother cares about sacrificing a few citizens along the way to war?

:bonk:

Yes, you should be thanking me for reminding you to think for yourself and not trust authorities that are secret and elite. History always repeats itself because of human nature. Part of that nature is complacency and willingness to go along with lies and authority figures.

That's why there are these large dogmatic religions, people are sheep.

You can educate yourself about the facts concerning 9-11 - and don't expect the mass media to provide them to you.

What you can expect is that the government will use mass media to coverup what really happened.

Not to expect this is stupid.

Edited November 10, 2010 by godspeed

[spookyturtle 9,466]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWcRMonvWA

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWcRMonvWA

It's not cool to be a sheeple spooky turtle.

It is cool to be informed and distrusting of authority. Our country was founded by distrust for elite and secretive authorities and sheeple like you have thrown that all away.

Now we have the bankster bailouts that our forefathers warned us against. Now we have endless wars that kill almost 90% innocents and destroy our economy.

And for what? to protect us against our own government in the form of false flag terrorism?

You have the ability to distrust for a reason - it's not only healthy but also wise.

The problem is sheeple that have been raised on video games, mass media, and soda filled with fluoride, sweeteners, and other garbage.

You need to become a man who protects against the tyranny of the alpha within society. Alphas always become tyrannical when they are too powerful and it's the job of the rest of the monkeys to cut them down when they get like that.

This is part of life - you need to plug back into reality and unplug from fantasy.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nK508xZ5Fs

[spookyturtle 9,466]

It is cool to be informed and distrusting of authority. Our country was founded by distrust for elite and secretive authorities and sheeple like you have thrown that all away.

You have the ability to distrust for a reason - it's not only healthy but also wise.

You need to become a man who protects against the tyranny of the alpha within society. Alphas always become tyrannical when they are too powerful and it's the job of the rest of the monkeys to cut them down when they get like that.

This is part of life - you need to plug back into reality and unplug from fantasy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[godspeed 41]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nK508xZ5Fs

Yes believing in the official lie is insanity. It goes against your self preservation instinct and your instinct to be a strong member of the tribe.

Your mind is healthier when you can think for yourself, and you are in a better position to do what is best for you and those you care about.

When you believe the official lies you are inhibiting a part of yourself that is vital and organic.

It's just like believing that Corexit is harmless or that the air was safe to breathe for the 9-11 first responders - both lies that government has been caught using.

You must by default expect that government will lie to you, that is the healthiest position - one that is supported by history and by your healthy instincts.

Edited November 10, 2010 by godspeed

[spookyturtle 9,466]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV23AytI0UI

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Lying is a standard operating procedure by government - it's how they keep secrets and get the public to do what is not in their individual best interest.

We hope that government has the greater good in mind, but unfortunately, government is usually corrupted by special interests/wealthy influential people.

also, even if government were completely benevolent (keep dreaming)

there are many problems with utilitarian logic, for the greater good ;

1. cannot be defined

2. cannot be measured

3. cannot be predicted

That's why you should be a fierce defender of your individual liberties and rights, because you can't trust even a perfect government to do what is in either your best interest or the best interest of the whole (whatever you determine the whole to be).

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Do some research on the insider trading surrounding 9-11. Or the no-bid contracts to Halliburton who massively overcharged in many instances.

Or the missing billions that the pentagon cannot account for.

Look into the Carlyle group.

Look into the oil interests and the Afghanistan oil pipeline.

There is an enormous paper trail for you to follow that brings you to the truth.

It's better to take the redpill and see the horror and learn to deal with it.

It's better to face human nature and the evil of this world and become stronger and wiser in the process.

Video games and mass media make you weak and deluded. They put you into an alpha brainwave state that is similar to hypnosis.

Pain is empowerment.