California Service Center To Texas Service Center

[celldoc 21]

As for me, no matter what happens to my case, I will never forget the insensitivity and bureaucratic bungling of our collective cases by USCIS and NVC.

I have to share this with you- I had spoken with a Tier 2 Officer on the phone who was distractingly short with her answers. She "looked my case up" on her computer. To my shock, unlike the other two Officers I had spoken with, she did not confirm that my application had never left the TSC. To the contrary, she told me my application had made it's way to the foreign embassy, who "denied" my application and had subsequently sent it back. She had the gall to tell me that maybe the legitimacy of my marriage had come into question. This completely pissed me off. Furthermore, she nonchalantly informed me that the USCIS would contact me in the next few "months" to request whatever other material I could possibly send that would "prove" the legitimacy of my marriage. To throw salt on the wound, she added that this time if my application got "rejected", there would be no possibility for my wife to join me in the States. Ever. According to her, we are allowed "2 strikes", and that's it, after which there is no chance of appeal.

Unbelievable.

I of course hung up and called back, spoke with another Tier 2 Officer, told him the garbage I had just been fed by a fellow Officer, and this guy basically disputed all of the above and once again, like before, told me that my application had never left the TSC.

[skynaut 29]

Dont believe every word they are telling you. I have an idea that some people there are so dumb and have no idea what they are talking about!

[xelance 31]

these people aren't dumb, they just want to save face sometimes. They cant admit their mistakes openly, so they come up with various answers to appease us.

[xelance 31]

I have to share this with you- I had spoken with a Tier 2 Officer on the phone who was distractingly short with her answers. She "looked my case up" on her computer. To my shock, unlike the other two Officers I had spoken with, she did not confirm that my application had never left the TSC. To the contrary, she told me my application had made it's way to the foreign embassy, who "denied" my application and had subsequently sent it back. She had the gall to tell me that maybe the legitimacy of my marriage had come into question. This completely pissed me off. Furthermore, she nonchalantly informed me that the USCIS would contact me in the next few "months" to request whatever other material I could possibly send that would "prove" the legitimacy of my marriage. To throw salt on the wound, she added that this time if my application got "rejected", there would be no possibility for my wife to join me in the States. Ever. According to her, we are allowed "2 strikes", and that's it, after which there is no chance of appeal.

Unbelievable.

I of course hung up and called back, spoke with another Tier 2 Officer, told him the garbage I had just been fed by a fellow Officer, and this guy basically disputed all of the above and once again, like before, told me that my application had never left the TSC.

what an f*ing joke...wow, that is just despicable. That is an absolutely horrendous experience and I truly feel for you. She does NOT need to say the things that she did..just seemed like someone that wanted to put up a fight.

[RichiJenny 14]

Have any petitioners asked the pertinent questions to Laurel Scott on her free Wednesday webchats, or indeed posted a question regarding the TSC transfers at immigrate2us?

As an experienced and well respected lawyer she may well have further or contradicting info regarding petitions forwarded to the TSC - or indeed know who to contact to obtain correct further info.

Sorry to hear some of you are having trouble. I always advise taking down ANY operatives name and i.d. number when speaking to them on the phone. It really is the luck of the draw and you can get answers from the sublime to the ridiculous when trying to find out concrete facts.

T2's can also obviously be unhelpful, but you stand a much better chance of finding out info than risking and relying on a CSR.

[skynaut 29]

Could someone clarify please how to start a service request after 5 months are over? Thank you!

[xelance 31]

Have any petitioners asked the pertinent questions to Laurel Scott on her free Wednesday webchats, or indeed posted a question regarding the TSC transfers at immigrate2us?

As an experienced and well respected lawyer she may well have further or contradicting info regarding petitions forwarded to the TSC - or indeed know who to contact to obtain correct further info.

Sorry to hear some of you are having trouble. I always advise taking down ANY operatives name and i.d. number when speaking to them on the phone. It really is the luck of the draw and you can get answers from the sublime to the ridiculous when trying to find out concrete facts.

T2's can also obviously be unhelpful, but you stand a much better chance of finding out info than risking and relying on a CSR.

I wish only some of us are having trouble, we are ALL having trouble. Thanks for the info.

[aviatorbill 10]

aviatorbill, on 30 December 2010 - 06:00 PM, said:

Celldoc: My background is in Electronic Engineering Technology (for Honeywell and John Fluke Instrumentation). I am an analytical type person and most call me a perfectionist. No, I don't have any formal training in law (it makes me sick to my stomach when I see what is going on in the courts in this country). But I have had several friends who are lawyers and I like to keep track of what is going on especially in the legislative branch of our government. I filed the I-130 (NOA1 is August 6) and then filed the K3 (NOA1 is August 30). I think that my appeal in January to my Senator and/or representative will be more along legal lines of what they (the USCIS) have done and are doing. We will see what happens.

It would be interesting if we could find someone in the media to take up our cause. Does anyone have an inside track on anyone in the media that would be interested?

So you're a "perfectionist". Not to be disrespectful, but what does that mean?? That term is relative, and frankly speaking, just tells me you're another educated brick in the wall, like myself, without a background in law- again, like myself. It's nice that you have friends with law degrees- so do I (from places such as Harvard, Yale and Northwestern). The pertinent question is however, do any of them practice Immigration Law? For example, I have a friend in Boston who was a Rhodes Scholar, went to Harvard Law School, and now works for the Environmental Protection Agency. Can he help us in our cause? Absolutely not, and clearly not because he is not educated enough, but simply because neither is he up-to-date with the immigration arena, nor does he have contacts who can pick up the phone and call a higher-up at the USCIS.

CELLDOC:

perfectionist (pəˈfɛkʃənɪst)

— n

1. a person who strives for or demands the highest standards of excellence in work, etc.

Celldoc: This definition from the New World Dictionary. --- You are correct (of course it is a relative term). Different people have more or less of that trait. But engineers generally if not always are on the extreme right of the scale. What good would it be if an engineer designed an integrated circuit and he got it "almost right"!? Not only is the USCIS not getting it "right", they are not even trying to get it right. Remember when they used to call the USCIS the INS? There was an outcry back then (about 10 years ago) as to what they were doing wrong. (Such as telling me (in 2001) that my adopted Russian 9 year old daughter had not become a US Citizen when she touched American soil (in 2001) in defiance of the new law passed in 2000 that said that she was automatically a US citizen. (They wanted me to pay app $400 to fill out the obsolete paperwork!) )That is partly if not totally why the K3 visa came into existance (and I-130 taking too long) and the reason for the name change. As far as having to have an immigration attorney to handle this, I don't thing that that is completely necessary. I think that it would be OK to have a hard nosed criminal defense attorney to plead the case. A class action law suit is generally more favorable for the attorneys than for the clients because more "big" money is involved for the attorney(s). Many individual law suits against the USCIS would garner more attention and place more thorns in their (the USCIS) side than one class action law suit. But lets not fight with each other. Lets focus our attention on what we should do in the immediate future to get the attention of the USCIS. The problem is that most attorneys would not be interested in taking a case against the USCIS - not much money involved for them. A class action law suit or filing without a lawyer might be the only way. -aviatorbill

My 5-month mark is approaching, and like you and the rest of the gang here I too have been given conflicting information regarding not just my case but also the goings-on at the USCIS/TSC.

In my opinion, our primary goal should first and foremost be obtaining an education from a reputed immigration attorney. It clearly will not suffice to merely have brief conversations with friends who are lawyers. And when I say "immigration attorney", I mean one who has solely been specializing in this arena for some time (which would presumably mean he/she would have political connections that would be able to actively help).

As for media attention, I personally think it's wishful thinking to think that some media giant is going to run with this story on any meaningful national scale. With that being said however, even one or a few local articles regarding this issue may help give it some sort of political legitimacy and draw the attention of a government official or a prominent attorney. Who knows.

As I had posted before, I'll try my best to continue researching our issue. In the meanwhile, for those of us who continue to contact the USCIS/TSC, I think it's important to document the date, time and content of our conversations. The more thorough collective data we have at our disposal on VJ, the greater our chances of efficiently continuing to chart inconsistencies and formulate a less murky picture of what may actually be going on.

Just my 2 cents.

I wish upon all of us a happy, fruitful, and healthy new year, and pray for speedy reunions with our loved ones.

Peace.

[aviatorbill 10]

So you're a "perfectionist". Not to be disrespectful, but what does that mean?? That term is relative, and frankly speaking, just tells me you're another educated brick in the wall, like myself, without a background in law- again, like myself. It's nice that you have friends with law degrees- so do I (from places such as Harvard, Yale and Northwestern). The pertinent question is however, do any of them practice Immigration Law? For example, I have a friend in Boston who was a Rhodes Scholar, went to Harvard Law School, and now works for the Environmental Protection Agency. Can he help us in our cause? Absolutely not, and clearly not because he is not educated enough, but simply because neither is he up-to-date with the immigration arena, nor does he have contacts who can pick up the phone and call a higher-up at the USCIS.

My 5-month mark is approaching, and like you and the rest of the gang here I too have been given conflicting information regarding not just my case but also the goings-on at the USCIS/TSC.

In my opinion, our primary goal should first and foremost be obtaining an education from a reputed immigration attorney. It clearly will not suffice to merely have brief conversations with friends who are lawyers. And when I say "immigration attorney", I mean one who has solely been specializing in this arena for some time (which would presumably mean he/she would have political connections that would be able to actively help).

As for media attention, I personally think it's wishful thinking to think that some media giant is going to run with this story on any meaningful national scale. With that being said however, even one or a few local articles regarding this issue may help give it some sort of political legitimacy and draw the attention of a government official or a prominent attorney. Who knows.

As I had posted before, I'll try my best to continue researching our issue. In the meanwhile, for those of us who continue to contact the USCIS/TSC, I think it's important to document the date, time and content of our conversations. The more thorough collective data we have at our disposal on VJ, the greater our chances of efficiently continuing to chart inconsistencies and formulate a less murky picture of what may actually be going on.

Just my 2 cents.

I wish upon all of us a happy, fruitful, and healthy new year, and pray for speedy reunions with our loved ones.

Peace.

CELLDOC:

perfectionist (pəˈfɛkʃənɪst)

— n

1. a person who strives for or demands the highest standards of excellence in work, etc.

Celldoc: This definition from the New World Dictionary. --- You are correct (of course it is a relative term). Different people have more or less of that trait. But engineers generally if not always are on the extreme right of the scale. What good would it be if an engineer designed an integrated circuit and he got it "almost right"!? Not only is the USCIS not getting it "right", they are not even trying to get it right. Remember when they used to call the USCIS the INS? There was an outcry back then (about 10 years ago) as to what they were doing wrong. (Such as telling me (in 2001) that my adopted Russian 9 year old daughter had not become a US Citizen when she touched American soil (in 2001) in defiance of the new law passed in 2000 that said that she was automatically a US citizen. (They wanted me to pay app $400 to fill out the obsolete paperwork!) )That is partly if not totally why the K3 visa came into existance (and I-130 taking too long) and the reason for the name change. As far as having to have an immigration attorney to handle this, I don't thing that that is completely necessary. I think that it would be OK to have a hard nosed criminal defense attorney to plead the case. A class action law suit is generally more favorable for the attorneys than for the clients because more "big" money is involved for the attorney(s). Many individual law suits against the USCIS would garner more attention and place more thorns in their (the USCIS) side than one class action law suit. But lets not fight with each other. Lets focus our attention on what we should do in the immediate future to get the attention of the USCIS. The problem is that most attorneys would not be interested in taking a case against the USCIS - not much money involved for them. A class action law suit or filing without a lawyer might be the only way. -aviatorbill

[sarah et luc 7]

Alright. Tomorrow is Monday. Holidays are over. 2011 is gonna be our year!!!

[Smoochie1209 0]

I'm here to join all the angry mob against being transferred and waiting too dang long. My NoA1 was Aug 9th, got transferred to TSC and then they notified me yet again with this email:

"*** DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL ***

The last processing action taken on your case

Receipt Number: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Application Type: I130 , IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Your Case Status: Initial Review

The I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN was transferred and is now being processed at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283."

The difference being there is no date like it said before. I was hoping this ment they were actually looking at my case and not saying, "hey it's in our office and we'll get to it when we can" cause they already told me that. My wife is getting ready to work overseas and that means a 1-2year contract, she can't go back to the philippines and get an interview if it's approved. I hope we get notice soon because this is getting redicuouls, almost 5 months and no apporval.

[J e n n y 26]

I'm here to join all the angry mob against being transferred and waiting too dang long. My NoA1 was Aug 9th, got transferred to TSC and then they notified me yet again with this email:

"*** DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL ***

The last processing action taken on your case

Receipt Number: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Application Type: I130 , IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Your Case Status: Initial Review

The I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN was transferred and is now being processed at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283."

The difference being there is no date like it said before. I was hoping this ment they were actually looking at my case and not saying, "hey it's in our office and we'll get to it when we can" cause they already told me that. My wife is getting ready to work overseas and that means a 1-2year contract, she can't go back to the philippines and get an interview if it's approved. I hope we get notice soon because this is getting redicuouls, almost 5 months and no apporval.

Welcome to the mob.

I suggest making a service request after your 5 months are up. Not sure if they do any good but it can't hurt.

[celldoc 21]

I'm here to join all the angry mob against being transferred and waiting too dang long. My NoA1 was Aug 9th, got transferred to TSC and then they notified me yet again with this email:

"*** DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL ***

The last processing action taken on your case

Receipt Number: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Application Type: I130 , IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN

Your Case Status: Initial Review

The I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN was transferred and is now being processed at a USCIS office. You will be notified by mail when a decision is made, or if the office needs something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283."

The difference being there is no date like it said before. I was hoping this ment they were actually looking at my case and not saying, "hey it's in our office and we'll get to it when we can" cause they already told me that. My wife is getting ready to work overseas and that means a 1-2year contract, she can't go back to the philippines and get an interview if it's approved. I hope we get notice soon because this is getting redicuouls, almost 5 months and no apporval.

You and I have the same NOA date, Aug. 9. Yay for us.

I agree with Jenny- a service request couldn't hurt.

[Naveed Hassan 10]

I hope something will happen in this month, Yesterday I have sent an email to my Senator, i hope something good will come out, Good Luck to all of us.

[Nile_Romance 5]

I'm here to join all the angry mob against being transferred and waiting too dang long. My NoA1 was Aug 9th, got transferred to TSC and then they notified me yet again with this email:

...The I130 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR RELATIVE, FIANCE(E), OR ORPHAN was transferred and is now being processed at a USCIS office.

FYI - This happened to several of us. In our case, I called the USCIS 800 number, talked to a level 2 person and learned that it was still at TSC and has never moved after that.