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Mexico police killed as wave of violence continues

Multiple killings have so far been rare in Mexico City At least nine Mexican police officers have been shot and killed in an ambush on their convoy in western Jalisco state - the sixth multiple killing in Mexico in less than a week.

Earlier, five women in Ciudad Juarez were killed when buses taking them home from work were ambushed by gunmen.

In Mexico City, six youths were shot dead in what police say may have been a gang-related feud.

Mexico is suffering a wave of violence, mostly linked to the drugs trade.

MEXICO'S DRUGS WAR

The 20 officers in the convoy in Jalisco were on patrol when they were attacked by gunmen in at least 10 sport utility vehicles, said a police statement.

Nine officers were killed, while a 10th is still missing.

Violence spreading Separately, at least five people were injured in grenade attacks in a suburb of Guadelajara, the state capital of Jalisco.

Two of those wounded were toddlers, reported the Associated Press news agency, and a third was a 17-year-old girl.

The killings in Mexico City may have been drug-related, said Miguel Angel Mancera of the attorney-general's office, but there had also been disputes between local car-jacking gangs.

The Tepito district, just north of Mexico City's historic centre, is a poor neighbourhood with a high crime rate.

Week of bloodshed

• 22 Oct: 14 young people shot dead at a teenage birthday party in Ciudad Juarez in Chihuahua state on the US border
• 24 Oct: Attack on a rehab centre in the border city of Tijuana in Baja California state kills 13 recovering addicts
• 27 Oct: Gunmen massacre 15 people at a car wash in Tepic in the Pacific coast state of Nayarit
• 28 Oct: Ambush on buses carrying factory workers outside Ciudad Juarez kills at least five women
• 28 Oct: Six youths shot dead in Tepito in Mexico City

The young men were standing outside a shop in the middle of the night when gunmen approached and opened fire before escaping in a car.

However, mass shootings are rare in the capital.

"We would like to reassure the population that we are going to find those responsible," Mr Mancera said.

The killings have raised concerns that the drug-related violence raging in the northern border states and some other regions of Mexico is coming to the capital.

"Massacres have arrived in the federal district," declared the newspaper El Universal.

The latest killings in Ciudad Juarez, a border city at the heart of the drugs conflict, do not appear to be drug-related.

Gunmen opened fire indiscriminately on three buses carrying female factory workers back from a shift at a plant making car parts.

At least 14 others were wounded in the attack, with some in a critical condition.

Some 28,000 people have died in drugs-related violence in Mexico since 2006.

More than 7,000 people have died in the violence in 2010 - making it the bloodiest year since President Felipe Calderon dispatched some 50,000 troops to take on the drug cartels over the past four years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...8454?print=true

Edited October 31, 2010 by Hopp

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I'd still like to know how anyone thinks that legalizing drugs will stop the violence.

[Fandango 1,439]

I'd still like to know how anyone thinks that legalizing drugs will stop the violence.

If you could get drugs from your local store, would you buy them from one of these people? (presuming you were a druggie, lol)

How many people do you see killed over alcohol or cigs?

It's a simple economic principle...you kill their demand, they're screwed. Seizing shipments only decreases supply, which makes the remaining drugs on the street actually increases their worth.

eta: for clarity's sake, I want to say I don't think it would stop ALL violence...but it would decrease it, imo.

Edited October 31, 2010 by Lisa C

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

If you could get drugs from your local store, would you buy them from one of these people? (presuming you were a druggie, lol)

How many people do you see killed over alcohol or cigs?

It's a simple economic principle...you kill their demand, they're screwed. Seizing shipments only decreases supply, which makes the remaining drugs on the street actually increases their worth.

eta: for clarity's sake, I want to say I don't think it would stop ALL violence...but it would decrease it, imo.

grand idea, until the government decides to tax the hell outta the drugs. then we'll see more profit margin for the drug dealers, although maybe not as big as it is now.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Where are all of these legal drugs going to come from? Will we see our corn farmers growing marijuana instead? Obviously if they are legalized they can't come from Mexico.

[Fandango 1,439]

Where are all of these legal drugs going to come from? Will we see our corn farmers growing marijuana instead? Obviously if they are legalized they can't come from Mexico.

Why not?

And think of the revenue it can create for the country!

I honestly cannot see a downside...

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Why not?

And think of the revenue it can create for the country!

I honestly cannot see a downside...

You think that the marijuana and cocaine producers in the other countries are all going to calmly co-exist?

[Fandango 1,439]

You think that the marijuana and cocaine producers in the other countries are all going to calmly co-exist?

I mean, why can't the corn farmers, or other farmers start growing weed. Not impossible!

Remember: afaik, there's no 'turf war' over tobacco plants.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I mean, why can't the corn farmers, or other farmers start growing weed. Not impossible!

Remember: afaik, there's no 'turf war' over tobacco plants.

What about cocaine? Much of that passes thru Mexico. And I don't think that the drug lords will sit by idly while this takes place.

[SuperDuper! 230]

It is estimated that the mexican mafia gets upwards of 85% of their profits from the sale of marijuana.

I wonder if Calif. legalizes it, will the price of the weed go up or down? Many think down, so wouldn't that take some wind out of the bad guys' sails?

Prop 19 is failing at this point, so it doesn't look like "grow your own like tomatoes" will be happening any time soon in the golden state.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I just don't see the drug cartels going off into the sunset and living happily ever after. And I don't see the US legalizing drugs to stop the violence in Mexico.

[Fandango 1,439]

I just don't see the drug cartels going off into the sunset and living happily ever after. And I don't see the US legalizing drugs to stop the violence in Mexico.

I should have been more clear...I don't think we should legalize it to stop the violence in Mexico...I think we should do it to stop the drug violence here in the US. But if every country did the same, there's not much that can be done about it.

Are bootleggers still running hooch past state lines? Nope. Hrmm, wonder why?

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I should have been more clear...I don't think we should legalize it to stop the violence in Mexico...I think we should do it to stop the drug violence here in the US. But if every country did the same, there's not much that can be done about it.

Are bootleggers still running hooch past state lines? Nope. Hrmm, wonder why?

But there still is illegal moonshine in a few states. Mexico may end up being ruled by drug lords one or another. So much money at stake like the cocaine industry in S America and the poppy industry in Afghanistan.

[SuperDuper! 230]

But there still is illegal moonshine in a few states. Mexico may end up being ruled by drug lords one or another. So much money at stake like the cocaine industry in S America and the poppy industry in Afghanistan.

Spooks, already the "mom and pop" MJ growers are impacting the drug lords' profits. If a commodity comes way down in price worldwide, it will impact all those who deal in it. THAT is the logic. Can you grasp it?

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I just don't see the drug cartels going off into the sunset ...

what happened to the bootleggers?