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Had my wife entered the U.S. under her K3 status, and had she adjusted status, then and only then would her 129 A# become her permanent A#.

In cases where the 129 are administratively closed, the 129 A# is moot since you won't be using it to enter the U.S.

You may or may not be assigned two separate A numbers at some point. The only one that matters is the one on the green card. My main point in response to your original question is that it is the petition approval that is important, not whether or not you have an A number or if it might change. You missed the point of the letter. It was an approval letter, not a notification you were assigned an A number.

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Pushbrk,

You are keen at taking a simple question and turning into algebraic formula.

The original poster was just curious if the A# on the NAO will become the permanent resident #. So yes, you are 100% correct it is the petition approval that is important. BUT, YET, and ALSO VALID TO BE ASKED is whether the assigned A# on said petition approval will become a permenant resident alien number.

Also valid to ask is, which A# will the IO write on the visa or 1 94 upon entry into the U.S? That # would depend on the visa obtained for that particular entry.

You may or may not be assigned two separate A numbers at some point. The only one that matters is the one on the green card. My main point in response to your original question is that it is the petition approval that is important, not whether or not you have an A number or if it might change. You missed the point of the letter. It was an approval letter, not a notification you were assigned an A number.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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A new # may or may not be assigned in the future, as we are not genies in a bottle, BUT, YET, and ALSO VALID is that since the 129 will be closed administratively, a new petition ( that is the 130 ) will be assigned and in my case was in fact assigned, a new A#.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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Pushbrk,

You are keen at taking a simple question and turning into algebraic formula.

The original poster was just curious if the A# on the NAO will become the permanent resident #. So yes, you are 100% correct it is the petition approval that is important. BUT, YET, and ALSO VALID TO BE ASKED is whether the assigned A# on said petition approval will become a permenant resident alien number.

Also valid to ask is, which A# will the IO write on the visa or 1 94 upon entry into the U.S? That # would depend on the visa obtained for that particular entry.

See bold in your post. No, the OP never asked such a question. I suggest you actually read the OP's posts.

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Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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See bold in your post. No, the OP never asked such a question. I suggest you actually read the OP's posts.

Here is your response:

Just as a point of clarification, the A number is printed on the approval notice but is otherwise not directly mentioned. It is your A number for life.

Apparently, my response seems to have answered the OP's question. Perhaps you're still reading too much into the question. The idea that the A# on the NAO in question is her A# for life is simply not true.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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Here is your response:

Apparently, my response seems to have answered the OP's question. Perhaps you're still reading too much into the question. The idea that the A# on the NAO in question is her A# for life is simply not true.

I didn't disagree with your your assertion that she may be assigned an additional A number. I said she didn't ask the question you said she asked. She asked what the notice meant and it's meaning has NOTHING to do with the assignment of an A number. It's a petition approval notice. The A number printed on it is incidental. The A number that matters is the one on the eventual green card. I suspect it will be the same number but if it isn't, so be it. It's not relevant to the meaning of the notice.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

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A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

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I didn't disagree with your your assertion that she may be assigned an additional A number. I said she didn't ask the question you said she asked. She asked what the notice meant and it's meaning has NOTHING to do with the assignment of an A number. It's a petition approval notice. The A number printed on it is incidental. The A number that matters is the one on the eventual green card. I suspect it will be the same number but if it isn't, so be it. It's not relevant to the meaning of the notice.

I agree the "letter" has nothing to do with the assignment of the A#.

However, in significance, in the process of obtaining a K3 or CR visa, there will be a time when the applicant will be asked either verbally or in print if he/she has or ever been assigned an A#. The best answer would be N/A since entering a k3 A# would create obfuscations in the process of obtaining CR visa and subsequent residency.

And, in the case of an administratively closed K3 petition, N/A would be the answer as well.

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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I agree the "letter" has nothing to do with the assignment of the A#.

However, in significance, in the process of obtaining a K3 or CR visa, there will be a time when the applicant will be asked either verbally or in print if he/she has or ever been assigned an A#. The best answer would be N/A since entering a k3 A# would create obfuscations in the process of obtaining CR visa and subsequent residency.

And, in the case of an administratively closed K3 petition, N/A would be the answer as well.

I completely disagree. If one has been assigned an A number, you do not answer N/A. The question IS applicable and there IS an answer, which would be the A number you know about. Let them sort out whether that A number has meaning to them in a particular case.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

Google Who is Pushbrk?

A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/606646-a-warning-to-green-card-holders-about-voting/

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Let them sort out whether that A number has meaning to them in a particular case.

I would still write N/A and explain the case was closed...if in fact it was closed administratively. Your advice that only one A# is assigned is very dangerous. Have you ever been in a situation where two A #s were assigned?

What you say makes good sense, but in reality, people in K3 situations do get two seperate A#s. What you are arguing over now?

**** filed K3/CR1 concurrently. My wife and I both work/live overseas. The following timeline continues from the approval of the K3 VISA.


Our journey
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115855

NVC rec'd 130/ assigned case# 5-15-08
Called to request online payment ID# 5-18-08
Rec'd ds 3032/AOS bill by USPS 5-19-08
Rec'd email Online ID# for payment of AOS and DS3032 5-21-08
Returned ds 3032 by USPS during wife visit to U.S. on K3--5-29-09
Paid AOS online: 7-05-09 ( While in Cambodia )
Rec'd email to pay IV bill 7-7-09
Paid IV bill online 7-08-09
Mailed I-864 2-16-10
I- 864 delivered 2-18-10
Mailed DS 230 2-22-10
Ds 230 delivered 2-24-10
AVR says "NVC is awaiting biographic info from petitioner" 2-24-10
AVR says, "NVC has received the info checklist requested." NVC HAS ENTERED DS-230 INTO COMPUTER 3-01-10
SIF: 3-08-10
AVR Case Complete: 3-09-10
Rec'd interview email/date: 3-15-10
Medical: 4-09-10
INTERVIEW( less than 5 minutes ): 4-26-10 APPROVED
Pickup Visa: 4-30-10
POE: LAX 5/31/10
Overnight REENTRY Permit app: 6/01/10
Rec'd SS: 6-10-10
Rec'd Welcome to USA Letter + Green Card Tracking #: 6-14-10
Rec'd NOA1 letter + receipt # for reentry permit: 6-14-10
Rec'd 10 Yr. GC: 6-21-10
Rec'd Bio appt for reentry permit 7-18-10 but changed to 6-28-10 thru INFOpass: 6-25-10
REentry touches: 9-6-10, 9-29-10, 10-4-10
Rec'd email Reentry mailed 10-07-10
Rec'd reentry permit 10-09-10 ( 4 mths 1 wk )

Naturalized 04/2016

Received US Passport 05/2016

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